Prelude to Version 2.3

[QuintusSertorius]

Note the changelog is comparing 2.3 to 2.2b. The changes in the test patches 2.2c-2.2r are summarised, rather than listed in detail there.

[Sengazub]

Im so hyped and excited im refreshing the thread every few minutes. Cant wait for it to be released.

[jdofo]

Funny you mention that - Testing installer3 right now and I was just commenting to the team that in the early game at least, I've never seen AI turns fly by so quickly. Keep in mind that even though there's a lot more scripting going on, Quintus tightened them up a lot, getting rid of over 200 monitors.

In this case, more is less.

Music to my ears... Impressive! The 2.3 changelog sweeten the wait

Great work, team!

[sgz]

Funny you mention that - Testing installer3 right now and I was just commenting to the team that in the early game at least, I've never seen AI turns fly by so quickly. Keep in mind that even though there's a lot more scripting going on, Quintus tightened them up a lot, getting rid of over 200 monitors.

In this case, more is less.

Music to my ears. I can't play Attila Grand Campaign for the painfully slow AI turns -- and a number of other factors.

[Caesar16]

Hey so does this changelog mean that release is super near?!!
Also any idea of version 2.3?

[Caesar16]

Hey so does this changelog mean that release is super near?!!
Also any idea of version 2.3?

[EDIT] I mean any idea of size of version 2.3?

[Kull]

[EDIT] I mean any idea of size of version 2.3?

Roughly 6 GB

[Seimour]

Roughly 6 GB

Which means that you'll give me a few days of early access so my slow internet can catch up, right? RIGHT?

[Caesar16]

Roughly 6 GB

So I hope it will be available on torrent right?

[myarta]

So I hope it will be available on torrent right?

Yes, all the major releases are, and hopefully people will leave it seeding.

[Kull]

Which means that you'll give me a few days of early access so my slow internet can catch up, right? RIGHT?

A man can dream!

So I hope it will be available on torrent right?

Absolutely! Most of us use that for these test installers, so there will be a number of us seeding once the final version it's released. That will speed up your downloads.

[Mikhail Stepanoff]

Great work, guys! I can't wait! It's the best mod and even standalone strategy-game in Roman timeframe for me! It's better then original Rome-TW and even Rome 2! Hope to see v2.3 soon!

[Nine]

- New bodyguard unit for Saka (cataphract-based)

Only as bodyguard or also as a recruitable unit (the cataphracts)?

[QuintusSertorius]

Only as bodyguard or also as a recruitable unit (the cataphracts)?

The bodyguard aren't cataphracts, but use the riders (ie the dudes, not the barded horses). The cataphracts are a recruitable unit.

[svramj]

Why!? The coolest and realistic thing was elephant bodyguard unit, chariot or horse were the next common. Hard to see Mauryan Generals on foot. Why not few number of elephants say max 3 with 2 mounted by chariot archers?

- New bodyguard unit for the faction - elephants removed and replaced with infantry (dismounted charioteers)

This is lovely news! Thumbs up to the EB2 Team:-

100's of changes to unit cost and stats
- Rebalance of cavalry to be less capable in melee, culture-based defensive skill and reduction in morale. AP removed from lances
- Integrates Paltmull's recoloured KH general for all Hellenistic factions
- Adds early and late Southern Arabian Tribal Highlanders
- Adds early and late Arabian Lowlanders
- New African forest elephant models and textures
- Adds Machimoi Hippeis, Toxotai and Akontistai
- Adds Belgic Swordsmen (Lagenas Kontegi)
- Adds Belgic Spearmen (Onnogaisoi)
- Adds Maiotian cavalry and infantry
- Adds Sauromatian Retinue cavalry (Maryagatæ)
- Adds Ligurian Spearmen(Lancetai)
- Adds Umbro-Picenian Warriors (Leginu)
- Adds Late Hellenistic Lancers (Aspidiotai Hippeis)
- Adds Bosporan Bodyguard
- Adds Baktrioi Hoplitai (Pahropan i Balk)
- Adds Galatianised Spearmen and Swordsmen
- Adds Iwzag Riders
- Adds IndoGreek Hoplitai, IndoGreek Peltastai, and IndoGreek Cavalry
- Reworked textures for the Sacred Band
- Adds Saka Cataphracts and new models for Sakan Bodyguards
- Amends Libyan Infantry (lose javelins and become light hoplites) and Numidian Skirmishers (secondary weapon now a spear)
- Amends Polybian Hastati, Leves and artillery crews
- Adds new camel unit (with sounds)
- Mount textures re-assigned so that all units no longer use the same textures based on the owning faction, but have regional ones instead
- Changes to the placeholder models for several Client Ruler bodyguards.

- The Europa Barbarorum II Team

[Krampus]

Can't wait for the new camelry.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLI54jaXG1A

Any chance of Camelphracts? Camelroi? Scythed Camels?

[QuintusSertorius]

Why!? The coolest and realistic thing was elephant bodyguard unit, chariot or horse were the next common. Hard to see Mauryan Generals on foot. Why not few number of elephants say max 3 with 2 mounted by chariot archers?

Because elephants are bugged. They cause the AI to think they can launch assaults without siege equipment, leading to stalemate battles where they do nothing. The only way to avoid this is remove the most likely source of elephants for AI-Taksashila: the general's bodyguard.

We have evidence for Indian nobles fighting on foot (that's the basis of the chariot unit after all), so the natural thing is to go for them as the bodyguard and circumvent this bug.

Can't wait for the new camelry.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLI54jaXG1A

Any chance of Camelphracts? Camelroi? Scythed Camels?

If you had any idea how painful it was getting them to work; the seat for the rider is so high most weapons are too short to function in melee. Glad they do, though, they add something interesting to the factions in Arabia. Especially to cavalry-less Sab'yn.

[NapoleonMaster]

Any plans for version 2.4?

[Krampus]

If you had any idea how painful it was getting them to work; the seat for the rider is so high most weapons are too short to function in melee. Glad they do, though, they add something interesting to the factions in Arabia. Especially to cavalry-less Sab'yn.

The effort is much appreciated, I've literally been waiting for EB to have camels since I picked it up in 2011

I may do a Saba game solely for the purpose of training camels.

[QuintusSertorius]

Any plans for version 2.4?

Yes, quite a few. The remaining factions, along with a revamp of an existing one is planned. There'll be a host more units and lots of new gameplay features.

The effort is much appreciated, I've literally been waiting for EB to have camels since I picked it up in 2011

I may do a Saba game solely for the purpose of training camels.

Najran is where they come from, though be careful of the network of alliances in the south.