MAC BREAKTHROUGH!!!!!!

[FOR GONDOR]

GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY!!!! in a test just to see how weird mac is with rome II and DEI i decided to do a little test. in 1.1 version of DEI if you had a mac you had the same problem we all do, and that is when you load the GC it causes the game to crash to desktop just before it finishes loading. however when you used the Ancient Empires sub mod, suddenly the GC was playable and you could go about your day, but unfortunately hen 1.2 came out, even though it used AE as its basis, the bug made its ugly comeback, and its been sad to say us mac users could no longer play the latest version of DEI again. UNTIL NOW! in a move to see just how silly Mac is, I decided to load a sub mod before the other dei files in a manner similar to the ancient empires trick. the mod I selected was Data Venia. the first "overhaul" sub mod I could find, I noticed that it didn't actually change the stratpos all that much (or even at all) and 90% of its features are just change in numbers and battle mechanics. yet lo and behold. the GC for DEI actually works now. yes you heard me, NO CRASH ON LOADING. MAC USERS REJOICE. all you need to play DEI 1.2.1 is the Data Venia sub mod!!!


Update: Another new interesting thing I noticed is that the reform script is working for mac now, as of a few turns that is, the units are correctly locked off and not immediately recruited, nor does the upgrade script tech to immediately cause all units to update

Update 2: just though I should post what my user script file looks like (if you wish to use everything Data Venia has to offer http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ted-24th-june) )

mod @@Data_Venia.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part1.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part2.pack;

Update 3: since Dresden has been the kind overlord that he is and made us a sub mod, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ficial-Submods linked there (cheers dresden, best mod leader on Twcenter, also just moving it to the top for those who do not wish to scroll down) we no longer need to use Data Venia to play DEI 1.2, while there are many things about the campaign left over from DEI the battle mechanics and diplomacy changes are the same as normal 1.2. tho there is something i unfortunately realized today, due to this sub mod using data venia as its base, it does mean the game is 24 turns per year. so before you start a campaign you should download the 4 turns per year submod found on the Data Venia page (linked under update 2) or 12 turns if you want, and in the end your User.script.txt file should look like this if using dresdens version.

mod @@@@DV_4_TPY.pack;
mod @@a_Mac_DeI_submod.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part1.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part2.pack;

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about how to get mods working for mac in general or anything else related to mac modding.

[Dresden]

Well thats wonderful news. Data Venia is a great submod also so thats good If you want to try something just to test, you could try loading a basic 12TPY or 24TPY submod ahead of the main mod just to see if it has to be a submod for some reason.

If thats the case, I can make a simple 4TPY submod for mac.

Edit - here is a submod that you can test if you want just to see if you can get the campaign to load. http://www.mediafire.com/file/trg6al...eI_submod.pack

[FOR GONDOR]

unfortunately the sub mod you just made doesn't work, so it might be something the Data Venia team changed, even possible having to do with he factions themselves, who knows. I did send a message to the Data Venia team to see if they could upload a test version where it is just the factions, and campaign stuff and leave out the battle stuff they changed to see how that turns out

[Dresden]

Have you tried the 12TPY submod? Maybe its 4TPY that messes up for some reason.

In theory you could just use the data venia startpos also and see if that works or not.

[FOR GONDOR]

I sent a message to the data venia team asking if they could upload a version with just the stratpos

[Dresden]

For those who want to try it, here is a version that should work with mac if you load it before the main mod http://www.mediafire.com/file/trg6al...eI_submod.pack

[mostlymac]

Non of the suggestions work for me. The mod don't even seem to upload when starting RTW via steam and when trying to press the desktop application icon of RTW the game won't even load.

[overlord575]

I have a very similar issue i made a separate post to see if anyone else has had it as well. are you just stuck on the white rome 2 screen or does it not even load up that far. I'm also curious have you tried dresdans submit and venia bot don't want to work for me with and without the 4tpy submods.

[Dago Red]

I've wanted to try Data Venia. But if that doesn't work I have a different solution. Transfer all your files to an external drive, wipe the mac and take it to your nearest recycling center so that at least all the rare earth metals used in its construction can go to some good use. Then forget about that weak, inferior product and go buy an Asus gaming laptop which will run circles around any pos mac at less than half the price.

Or, spend closer to the same amount of your hard earned $ on a custom built PC from somewhere like Maingear(I like the briefcase-sized Drift model). Plug it in, and play on all settings on Extreme. Problem solved.

[overlord575]

Its a hand me down computer believe me if i could I would change in a heartbeat but as of right now i have to deal with mac issues and one of those is getting the dei grand campaign working. please though be helpful not hurtful those of us with macs know the struggles and pains that a mac comes with but we are stuck with it. If you have any advice about the current issue please share i have been trying for a few days now and am extremely frustrated.

[Dresden]

I don't think Data venia has been updated for 1.2.2 so thats why it doesn't load. You can alternatively try the Mac submod, I just loaded that up and it works fine.

[Dardo21]

Yeah was about to post that, DV hasn't been updated yet.

[overlord575]

i uninstalled and reinstalled both DEI and the submod (the submod in question is dresden's above yes?)i tried it with and without the 4tpy submod as well still nothing it gets stuck on the splash screen and just sits there. taking out both submods and having just dei everything loads up fine so i don't know what the issue is here is what my script file looks like for reference.

mod @@@@DV_4_TPY.pack;mod @@a_Mac_DeI_submod.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part1.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part2.pack;

the submods go into the same place as dei right in the rome 2 data folder? i can't think of what is messing it up that it won't load it doesn't crash it just sits there, i left it for like 30 minutes to see if it was just an extra long loading time and that did nothing as well.

[Dresden]

I am not sure what it could be then Do you have any other mods in your data folder? Otherwise, that Mac submod should load with the latest DeI releases. At least it does on PC - sadly I can't test on Mac.

[overlord575]

No other mods in the data folder I have tried just your submod and your submod with the 4tpy one as well no luck I'm just stuck at the white splash screen.

[FOR GONDOR]

Hi its me, sorry I've been off for a while, I did just test using the latest version of DEI, and its defiantly the submod that is causing it to never progress past the splash screen, god knows why, perhaps something from the Data Venia, to play DEI use the previous version of the game with the submod dresden has made and the Data Venia 4 turns per year submod. we must either wait for Data Venia to update their submod to the current version so dresden can make then in turn update the mac submod. but until then use the previous version of DEI before the barbarian update

[Dresden]

As I said, Data Venia has not been updated for 1.2.2. But the Mac submod should work, I can load it just fine - you have to get the newest version of it though from the official submod thread.

[overlord575]

We have figured it out you cannot use the link you provided earlier in the post or the data venia. You MUST go to the official submit thread and downloaded it there then ala usual putting it in the data and rewriting the scrip file and it should work. I tried with three campaigns just to be sure the major india faction knossos and etruscan league thank you dresdan and anyone else who helped or struggled to figure out what was wrong. for gondor if you could kindly update the post so new mac users don't have to scroll through this mess of a thread that would be nice.

[Dresden]

Ok, I changed the link in the OP to the official submod thread.

[RobertDeHales]

Hello, I just read through this and followed the instructions, and the game's crashing on me. What I've done so far is download both of the Divide Packs and the Mac DEI Submod then placed them into the Data folder. Then I made a .txt file that looks like this.
@@a_Mac_DEI_submod.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part1.pack;
mod _divide_et_impera_release_12_Part2.pack;

The game continues to crash for me at the start, though.