So, a new Roman Total War

[Haddon]

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-tota...announce-blog/

"another spiritual follow-up to Total War: ROME II, like Total War: ATTILA, and moves the time period forward in much the same way."

Guesses as to what this might be? My thoughts are either the establishment of the Severan Dynasty (and 5 Emperors) or Galleinas and the split of the empire into 4 briefly when the Danube legions, Rhine legions and Palmyra become briefly independent. The Tetrarchy fits the description as well, but I hope it isn't that one, we already have some excellent mods for that. It is also possible we could get Caesar's Civil War or the Social War, as those specific times have never been done, but I think it is less likely for them to do Republic than Empire.

And with another historical DLC to be announced, probably for Attila methinks, we might have quite a bit of Rome on the way.

[Petellius]

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-tota...announce-blog/

"another spiritual follow-up to Total War: ROME II, like Total War: ATTILA, and moves the time period forward in much the same way."

Guesses as to what this might be? My thoughts are either the establishment of the Severan Dynasty (and 5 Emperors) or Galleinas and the split of the empire into 4 briefly when the Danube legions, Rhine legions and Palmyra become briefly independent. The Tetrarchy fits the description as well, but I hope it isn't that one, we already have some excellent mods for that. It is also possible we could get Caesar's Civil War or the Social War, as those specific times have never been done, but I think it is less likely for them to do Republic than Empire.

And with another historical DLC to be announced, probably for Attila methinks, we might have quite a bit of Rome on the way.

Hopefully

[NateTheGreat1990]

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-tota...announce-blog/

"another spiritual follow-up to Total War: ROME II, like Total War: ATTILA, and moves the time period forward in much the same way."

Guesses as to what this might be? My thoughts are either the establishment of the Severan Dynasty (and 5 Emperors) or Galleinas and the split of the empire into 4 briefly when the Danube legions, Rhine legions and Palmyra become briefly independent. The Tetrarchy fits the description as well, but I hope it isn't that one, we already have some excellent mods for that. It is also possible we could get Caesar's Civil War or the Social War, as those specific times have never been done, but I think it is less likely for them to do Republic than Empire.

And with another historical DLC to be announced, probably for Attila methinks, we might have quite a bit of Rome on the way.

I have no clue what they're planning to do on Total War Sagas, so many things. I would HOPE that they do some Crusades game for the Sagas, possibly the rise of Islam.

What I know for sure is this new historical DLC is definitely going to be on Rome II.


I can see it also being on Total War Attila (Would love an Age of Vikings type DLC and yes I know there is a mod). But from the stuff they've been teasing us with it looks likely to be on Rome II.
They showed off some concept art of some unit which his shield looks to symbolize the Cherusci, which was a some Germanic Tribe from 1st century BC to 1st century AD. If I was to guess what they do, I bet it will be some type of Germanic Wars DLC for Rome II. Which personally would be really cool to me and hope they do go with that.

[Haddon]

I have no clue what they're planning to do on Total War Sagas, so many things. I would HOPE that they do some Crusades game for the Sagas, possibly the rise of Islam.

What I know for sure is this new historical DLC is definitely going to be on Rome II.


I can see it also being on Total War Attila (Would love an Age of Vikings type DLC and yes I know there is a mod). But from the stuff they've been teasing us with it looks likely to be on Rome II.
They showed off some concept art of some unit which his shield looks to symbolize the Cherusci, which was a some Germanic Tribe from 1st century BC to 1st century AD. If I was to guess what they do, I bet it will be some type of Germanic Wars DLC for Rome II. Which personally would be really cool to me and hope they do go with that.

People have taken that artwork far too literally, I think. It is pretty clearly a Germanic warrior, but beyond that we really can't say anything for certain. Remember that the Suebi in R2 have the same symbol as the Marcomanni in Attila. I don't think CA is (and they certainly never have been) so historically accuracte that we can take the crest on the shield of one piece of artwork as definitive proof of the Cherusci. Oh, and btw, the Cherusci lasted beyond the first century, and likely were one of the tribes that came together and invaded during the Crisis of the Third Century, which that artwork could very well be from. Which would fit the era of Attila (couple hundred years earlier) better than Rome (~700 years after the base R2 campaign, and still more than 300 after the Imperium campaign).

[NateTheGreat1990]

People have taken that artwork far too literally, I think. It is pretty clearly a Germanic warrior, but beyond that we really can't say anything for certain. Remember that the Suebi in R2 have the same symbol as the Marcomanni in Attila. I don't think CA is (and they certainly never have been) so historically accuracte that we can take the crest on the shield of one piece of artwork as definitive proof of the Cherusci. Oh, and btw, the Cherusci lasted beyond the first century, and likely were one of the tribes that came together and invaded during the Crisis of the Third Century, which that artwork could very well be from. Which would fit the era of Attila (couple hundred years earlier) better than Rome (~700 years after the base R2 campaign, and still more than 300 after the Imperium campaign).

Should've added from a Video Game Company perspective that they would go with Rome II instead of Attila because of the playerbase as of right now Rome II has 9,139 people playing, while Attila has 5,446. If they do go with Attila then, I guess it shows they do what they want to do and not for money. But they make you pay for Blood textures anyways so highly doubt they don't do it for the money.

[sanjayraj85]

Regarding blood dlc they do it to remove age requirement so can't blame them for that.moreover in Make war not love contest they giveaway the dlc key for key if you had supported warhammer.

[NateTheGreat1990]

Regarding blood dlc they do it to remove age requirement so can't blame them for that.moreover in Make war not love contest they giveaway the dlc key for key if you had supported warhammer.

I don't want to seem belligerent, but regardless you should still get my point. They are going to go with Rome II most likely to get a higher profit than Attila, and I'm not using the playerbase from earlier to support my belief because if you constantly check Rome II.

[Haddon]

Should've added from a Video Game Company perspective that they would go with Rome II instead of Attila because of the playerbase as of right now Rome II has 9,139 people playing, while Attila has 5,446. If they do go with Attila then, I guess it shows they do what they want to do and not for money. But they make you pay for Blood textures anyways so highly doubt they don't do it for the money.

The rise of Rome is FAR more popular than the fall of Rome. Bringing Rome in its golden age to Attila is likely to bring more people to Attila, where adding more Rome to Rome is much less likely, methinks.

[UMCenturion]

I have a feeling it may be a reproduction of Alexander. Either way, it's interesting.

[zig&sharko]

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/a-tota...announce-blog/

"another spiritual follow-up to Total War: ROME II, like Total War: ATTILA, and moves the time period forward in much the same way."

Guesses as to what this might be? My thoughts are either the establishment of the Severan Dynasty (and 5 Emperors) or Galleinas and the split of the empire into 4 briefly when the Danube legions, Rhine legions and Palmyra become briefly independent. The Tetrarchy fits the description as well, but I hope it isn't that one, we already have some excellent mods for that. It is also possible we could get Caesar's Civil War or the Social War, as those specific times have never been done, but I think it is less likely for them to do Republic than Empire.

And with another historical DLC to be announced, probably for Attila methinks, we might have quite a bit of Rome on the way.

III century and imperial crisis???Too much ambitious project for them.Impassible. Look yourself at Rome 2 and Attila: many bugs and pseudohistoric aspects-without mods play on this doesn't make sense. III century another project, how? They've no abjective source...Many project to Rome 1 , Rome 2 and Attila with mod setting in III century has abondoned. Sorry for incorect language

[Daruwind]

There are at least two project in work:

Larger campaign pack - only info so far was germanic looking warrior ....this will be probably for Rome 2 because it needs the base game..more people is playing R2 so more people will probably buy it.
Saga - only info so far was blurry map of Ireland..graphics looks like Attila ...standalone, independent on base game. So either for older game like R2 or for less selling game like Attila.

Saga X - it sounded like there might be more games down the line. However second interpretation is that CA simply labeled this kind of games as Saga and that the next one will be in far far future. (the system is Base game / Expansion about famous people like Attila and Napoleon and third is Saga about short intense period of time..rebellions, religion unrest,....)

[NateTheGreat1990]

There are at least two project in work

I thought they had 3 projects of historical games being developed.
1. DLC for a Recent Total War.
2. Another Full Historical Total War Game.
3. The newly introduced Total War Sagas series.

Larger campaign pack - only info so far was germanic looking warrior ....this will be probably for Rome 2 because it needs the base game..more people is playing R2 so more people will probably buy it.

I agree with you that the campaign dlc for a recent total war game will most likely be Total War Rome II. Everything I've seen and using Business logic points towards Rome II. But then again they could still do Attila, but wouldn't make sense with how many people play Rome II compared to Total War Attila.

Saga - only info so far was blurry map of Ireland..graphics looks like Attila ...standalone, independent on base game. So either for older game like R2 or for less selling game like Attila.

If you're reffering to the Total War Saga Announcement blog post, they've used backgrounds before and they've meant nothing, all just for looks. I remember they used a Medieval Knight as a background once on some recent blog post and people thought they were working on Medieval III but they said on Facebook they pick random art they have from some "Art of Total War" book or something they sell. So they probably just used this for looks.

Saga X - it sounded like there might be more games down the line. However second interpretation is that CA simply labeled this kind of games as Saga and that the next one will be in far far future. (the system is Base game / Expansion about famous people like Attila and Napoleon and third is Saga about short intense period of time..rebellions, religion unrest,....)

Total War Sagas is supposed to be multiple games, they want it to be something similar to Attila's content (Amount of Units, Graphics etc.) I believe but focused on smaller points in history that wouldn't make sense to do like a full era type game on it. Which is interesting to me but I see it as a money grab regardless, but I won't care as long as the game is good.

[Daruwind]

I thought they had 3 projects of historical games being developed.
1. DLC for a Recent Total War.
2. Another Full Historical Total War Game.
3. The newly introduced Total War Sagas series.

I was just not counting the next historical game as that really far future and that game was on the drawboard long time ago. These other two projects are simply something not originally planned....

If you're reffering to the Total War Saga Announcement blog post, they've used backgrounds before and they've meant nothing, all just for looks.

You are right. We have no idea if blurry map is related to any of these projects. But one thing is usre. The map is not from Attila of any Attila´s current minicampaign. I checked all maps ingame. At the same time it is pretty much campaign map with Attila style graphics... :-)

Total War Sagas is supposed to be multiple games, they want it to be something similar to Attila's content (Amount of Units, Graphics etc.)

Right again. Multiple games. Or more likely in ten years we will see more of saga style games ...my thinking was more about if in case of success we will see more saga games for Rome 2 / Attila generation or if next will probably happenfor next historical game. This is of course just speculation. Empire has Napoleon (famous person expansion), Shogun has FotS (which would be now labeled Saga) and Rome 2 has again Attila (which is another person)

You keep saying this, this "makes more business sense" because more people are playing Rome 2, but you are missing a key thing I have pointed out repeatedly; the Roman era, from mid-Republic to ~Constantine or so, is WAY WAY more popular than the fall of Rome. People are playing the ERA more than the GAME, I think.

I read this to mean quite possibly a second grand campaign, just like they did for Rome 2, to breathe new life into Attila. Rome 2 was faltering like hell when they made the Imperium update, fixed quite a few things and brought some much needed life to the game. I think it makes much more business sense to attempt the same on Attila, rather than add a DLC for a game 5 years old.

I must admit this point of view is also interesting. Larger campaign pack for Attila and standalone for R2....but for now we simply dont have enough info.

[Nikron]

A reproduction of Alexander would be too cheap and unoriginal from their side, so my opinion is that perhaps they'll go for the period after Alexander's death, focusing the map on Italy, Balkans, North Africa, Anatolia, and part of the Middle East.

So it's either the Rise of Rome, Epirus (under Pyrrhus), Carthage, Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleuchia, or Macedon. Probably something similar to DEI's Macedonian Wars but on a larger scale. Or perhaps that's my wishful thinking

But you gotta admit that there was some really tight competition among the aforementioned factions so it does fit into the idea of changing the history within a short period of time, an alternative to the mighty Roman Empire. Perhaps they can throw in there the Celts as hordes in the Northern borders of the map and there you go, a best selling pack (for me at least).

[Julio-Claudian]

A reproduction of Alexander would be too cheap and unoriginal from their side, so my opinion is that perhaps they'll go for the period after Alexander's death, focusing the map on Italy, Balkans, North Africa, Anatolia, and part of the Middle East.

So it's either the Rise of Rome, Epirus (under Pyrrhus), Carthage, Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleuchia, or Macedon. Probably something similar to DEI's Macedonian Wars but on a larger scale. Or perhaps that's my wishful thinking

But you gotta admit that there was some really tight competition among the aforementioned factions so it does fit into the idea of changing the history within a short period of time, an alternative to the mighty Roman Empire. Perhaps they can throw in there the Celts as hordes in the Northern borders of the map and there you go, a best selling pack (for me at least).

"It moves the time period forward" from Rome II though.

[Daruwind]

Well Diadochi War after Alexander´s death could be interesting. You can expand map east to the India. Depending on timeframe we can easily see even Gallic Invasion or even Pyrrhic Wars or Rise of Carthage in west mediterranean.

[Willhelm123]

I want Rise of Islam but obviously it wont happen.

[Athos187]

I think its time for a china and india based tw with the mongols rampaging through asia

[Haddon]

I think its time for a china and india based tw

I am willing to bet the next historical game will be the East. Mongols maybe, rise of Qin perhaps, there are lots of great periods in Chinese and Far Eastern regional history.

[Athos187]

Ya, its really the only thing I can think of that is completely fresh and it seems like from a marketing view everyone wants a piece of china these days