Odd CTD in campaign and i do not know the cause or how to solve it?

[Mr_Nygren]

In my work on Warcraft Total War the campaign CTD:s whenever a transgression occures - i thought it was the added ships but it wasn't solved by removing them. Anyone else knows what this error-log means? Transgression something, and a CTD immediately after! And it happens every time at the same turn.

Between turn 36 to 46.

07:19:28.616 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/WTW/data/ui/units/centaur/#Bow_Militia.tga (from: C:\GAMES\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
07:19:28.616 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/WTW/data/ui/units/centaur/#Bow_Militia.tga (from: C:\GAMES\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
07:19:28.616 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/WTW/data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Bow_Militia_info.tga
07:19:28.616 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Bow_Militia_info.tga
07:19:28.616 [data.missing] [warning] Missing unit image data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Bow_Militia_info.tga
07:19:28.616 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/WTW/data/ui/generic/generic_unit_info.tga
07:19:28.616 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/WTW/data/ui/units/centaur/#Axe_Militia.tga (from: C:\GAMES\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/WTW/data/ui/units/centaur/#Axe_Militia.tga (from: C:\GAMES\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/WTW/data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Axe_Militia_info.tga
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Axe_Militia_info.tga
07:19:28.617 [data.missing] [warning] Missing unit image data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Axe_Militia_info.tga
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/WTW/data/ui/generic/generic_unit_info.tga
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/WTW/data/ui/units/centaur/#Sergeants.tga (from: C:\GAMES\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/WTW/data/ui/units/centaur/#Sergeants.tga (from: C:\GAMES\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
07:19:28.617 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/WTW/data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Sergeants_info.tga
07:19:28.618 [system.io] [info] exists: missing data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Sergeants_info.tga
07:19:28.618 [data.missing] [warning] Missing unit image data/ui/unit_info/centaur/Sergeants_info.tga
07:19:28.618 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/WTW/data/ui/generic/generic_unit_info.tga
07:19:28.618 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0026_Build_Greater_Barracks> fired
07:19:28.618 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0211_Spy_On_Settlement> fired
07:19:28.618 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0211_Spy_On_Settlement> fired
07:19:28.618 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0211_Spy_On_Settlement> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.619 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0004_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.620 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0046_P_Normalise> fired
07:19:28.620 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0049_P_Normalise_Non_catholic> fired
07:19:28.620 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083b_Update_Allies> fired
07:19:28.620 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0084b_Update_Enemies> fired
07:19:28.620 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0085_Update_Religion> fired
07:19:28.620 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0093_Update_Normal_Difficulty> fired
07:19:28.621 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0096_Increase_Global_Standing_New_Turn> fired
07:19:28.621 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0108_Update_Untrustworthy_Factions_Minor> fired
07:19:28.621 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0102_High_Income2> fired
07:19:28.644 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0068_T_Battle_Engagement> fired
07:19:28.644 [data.transgression] [info] Applied transgression TC_BATTLE_ENGAGEMENT from transgressor faction 1A0BFB0A against faction 1A0C273C
07:19:28.697 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_lose.bik]Pause on
07:19:28.697 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_lose.bik]Pause on
07:19:31.661 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal.

[rafmc1989]

Mmh, Mr_Nygren, from the .log is hard to get the exact cause, although the transgression is an [info], I don't think it's the direct cause of the fatal CTD.

Instead, maybe some triggering (of events or features) related to the campaign_script?

[Mr_Nygren]

Mmh, Mr_Nygren, from the .log is hard to get the exact cause, although the transgression is an [info], I don't think it's the direct cause of the fatal CTD.

Instead, maybe some triggering (of events or features) related to the campaign_script?

Nope, there are no events nor scripts.

And all the triggers in the export_descr_character_traits are also removed.

[Withwnar]

I'm pretty sure that alreadyded had this problem not too long ago. I don't remember if he managed to solve it, nor where it was discussed. Maybe PM him if a search can't find it.

EDIT: here it is: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?746700

[Mr_Nygren]

I'm pretty sure that alreadyded had this problem not too long ago. I don't remember if he managed to solve it, nor where it was discussed. Maybe PM him if a search can't find it.

EDIT: here it is: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?746700

Thanks, unfortunately there were no solution in that thread.

[Withwnar]

I'm pretty sure that alreadyded had this problem not too long ago. I don't remember if he managed to solve it, nor where it was discussed. Maybe PM him if a search can't find it.

EDIT: here it is: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?746700

Thanks, unfortunately there were no solution in that thread.

It's quite possible that he solved it but didn't return to that thread to say how. It would be worth PMing him.

[rafmc1989]

Mmh, really strange then. :/

Well, as Withwnar said, check the thread he posted..
It's a very odd CTD, I never had this "applied transgression issue". In any case, I think the thread can be very helpful for that...

[Mr_Nygren]

Mmh, really strange then. :/

Well, as Withwnar said, check the thread he posted..
It's a very odd CTD, I never had this "applied transgression issue". In any case, I think the thread can be very helpful for that...

It didn't help looking at that thread, as the solution weren't there. The only way i could solve it was by removing the diplomacy completely - also, the ships i did add to the recruitment caused a similar CTD to occure and the only solution i could come up with was removing the ships.

I still have no idea how to actually solve it so that one can have ships without the mod CTD:ing.

[rafmc1989]

It didn't help looking at that thread, as the solution weren't there. The only way i could solve it was by removing the diplomacy completely - also, the ships i did add to the recruitment caused a similar CTD to occure and the only solution i could come up with was removing the ships.

I still have no idea how to actually solve it so that one can have ships without the mod CTD:ing.

Mhm I see... well, it's something really new to me. I mean, never had CTD problems with ships or diplomacy... At this point, check them: like their statistics, recruitment, entries, factors or h_r which regulate them... there must me something wrong in those aspects, I guess... but no clear idea :/

[Mr_Nygren]

Anyone knows why this transgressor bug happens?

I had zero issues in my submod for Hyrule Total War - but then after adding the faction of Stalfos this transgressor issue started to happen very often, and this forced me to remove Stalfos. I tested both spawning them through scripts as Undying nephalim had intended, and through adding them in the descr_strat - both led to the transgressor CTD.

It is a CTD which happens when one faction attacks another. It happens randomly at random turns - and if you load a saved game it will happen again at the same spot. If you restart your campaign it will happen on a different turn. Sometimes you can play for 20 turns, other times you can play for 179 turns - but when this CTD happens the campaign is over.

The odd thing is that i removed Stalfos and got rid of the issue. But then after adding new religions, changing cultures, adding some new units etc - it started to happen when the Hylians attacked Lanayru at turn 178. Then it happened when restarting the campaign on turn 71 when the Deku Tribe attacked Lanayru. And later it did happen on another random turn when the Lanayru moved troops.

I tried reverting changes but to no avail. I then made a backup of the mod and restored the stable version that had worked without any crash for 230 turns. But no - it happened there as well. I tried an even older and it still happened. Often it did happen on turn 23, 71 or later. But i have no clue why it started to happen in earlier versions?

Previously when removing Stalfos i got rid of the bug. But now it is there no matter what. It is a gamebreaking bug - the campaign might last the entire game if one is lucky. But most of the time might end in the middle of the campaign or in the beginning which is a real shame. I don't understand how the stable version also got the bug all of a sudden.

This transgressor bug is caused by what? Anyone knows?

[Razor]

Anyone knows why this transgressor bug happens?

I had zero issues in my submod for Hyrule Total War - but then after adding the faction of Stalfos this transgressor issue started to happen very often, and this forced me to remove Stalfos. I tested both spawning them through scripts as Undying nephalim had intended, and through adding them in the descr_strat - both led to the transgressor CTD.

It is a CTD which happens when one faction attacks another. It happens randomly at random turns - and if you load a saved game it will happen again at the same spot. If you restart your campaign it will happen on a different turn. Sometimes you can play for 20 turns, other times you can play for 179 turns - but when this CTD happens the campaign is over.

Your situation is eerily similar to mine. Are you sure you can't bypass the CTDs by reloading the last autosave? I'm usually able to do just that. It's not fancy, but at least I can continue playing the campaign.

The odd thing is that i removed Stalfos and got rid of the issue. But then after adding new religions, changing cultures, adding some new units etc - it started to happen when the Hylians attacked Lanayru at turn 178. Then it happened when restarting the campaign on turn 71 when the Deku Tribe attacked Lanayru. And later it did happen on another random turn when the Lanayru moved troops.

I tried reverting changes but to no avail. I then made a backup of the mod and restored the stable version that had worked without any crash for 230 turns. But no - it happened there as well. I tried an even older and it still happened. Often it did happen on turn 23, 71 or later. But i have no clue why it started to happen in earlier versions?

Previously when removing Stalfos i got rid of the bug. But now it is there no matter what. It is a gamebreaking bug - the campaign might last the entire game if one is lucky. But most of the time might end in the middle of the campaign or in the beginning which is a real shame. I don't understand how the stable version also got the bug all of a sudden.

This transgressor bug is caused by what? Anyone knows?

I'm am definitely interested in how it caused a stable version to become unstable. Are you 100% sure the bug wasn't already present in earlier versions of the mod, but somehow never triggered a CTD?


Also, I thought I'd link the two topics as they seem to deal with the same issue: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Pause-on/page2

[Mr_Nygren]

Your situation is eerily similar to mine. Are you sure you can't bypass the CTDs by reloading the last autosave? I'm usually able to do just that. It's not fancy, but at least I can continue playing the campaign.



I'm am definitely interested in how it caused a stable version to become unstable. Are you 100% sure the bug wasn't already present in earlier versions of the mod, but somehow never triggered a CTD?


Also, I thought I'd link the two topics as they seem to deal with the same issue: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Pause-on/page2

Well, it probably was there but never triggered. Earlier i would get random CTD maybe at turn 80 and were able to start the mod and load the save and continue.

Now i can't because it is a transgressor crash that happens at the same time all the time when loading saves.

- I tried removing shadows on the campaign map, removing assassins, spies and priests with the exception of the Wizzrobe priests - and also removed diplomats from some factions. The mod ran fine until turn 217 when it did crash - the latest version. But it doesn't matter what version (of my submod) i were using. It's not known why it didn't happen in the past. But i do believe that the transgressor crash is due to too many models on the strat-map at once.

I will remove diplomats and add very few agents from the start in the descr_strat instead. Players don't really need to recruit diplomats etc - they can have a few from the start and that's it. I care mostly about the battles and strategy and the rest i would cut if needed. Diplomats are nice but one doesn't need more than maybe one per faction.

[bitterhowl]

How often do you delete map.rwm?

[Mr_Nygren]

How often do you delete map.rwm?

All the time.

[Mr_Nygren]

The m2tw.system.log:

02:28:20.535 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/generic/eventpics/diplomacy_war_declared.tga
02:28:20.535 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/diplomacy_war_declared.tga (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.535 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/diplomacy_war_declared.tga.dds
02:28:20.535 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/diplomacy_war_declared.tga (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.535 [system.io] [trace] file open,,776D3248,217308
02:28:20.535 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/ui/northern_european/eventpics/diplomacy_war_declared.tga (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.542 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
02:28:20.702 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0068_T_Battle_Engagement> fired
02:28:20.703 [data.transgression] [info] Applied transgression TC_BATTLE_ENGAGEMENT from transgressor faction 4031E2FE against faction 4031D740
02:28:20.703 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/descr_hero_abilities.xml (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.703 [system.io] [info] exists:   found mods/Hyrule/data/descr_hero_abilities.xml (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.703 [system.io] [trace] file open,,375A5448,94247
02:28:20.703 [system.io] [info] open:   found mods/Hyrule/data/descr_hero_abilities.xml (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.720 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting,186
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [info] open:   found data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting,186
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [info] open:   found data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.721 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting,186
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] open:   found data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [trace] file open,,data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting,186
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] open:   found data/globallighting/morning_storm.lighting (from: D:\Games\SEGA\Medieval II Total War)
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.722 [system.io] [info] exists: missing mods/Hyrule/data/globallighting/env_maps/environment_morning_storm.texture
02:28:20.723 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0072_T_Undeclared_Attack> fired
02:28:20.723 [data.transgression] [info] Applied transgression TC_UNDECLARED_ATTACK from transgressor faction 4031E2FE against faction 4031D740
02:28:21.504 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal.

Hyrule.scriptoutput.log:

00:35:12.076 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <send_character_off_map>, at line 20835, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character is dead or does not exist!.
00:35:12.080 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 20842, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Xalfarthius LoyaltyStarter 1
err: character not found


00:35:12.080 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 20843, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Xalfarthius ReligionStarter 1	
err: character not found


00:35:12.080 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 20844, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Xalfarthius StrategicSkill 1
err: character not found


00:35:12.081 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 20845, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Xalfarthius GoodCommander 2
err: character not found


00:35:12.081 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 20847, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_ancillary Xalfarthius rank_general1
err: character not found


00:44:51.962 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <send_character_off_map>, at line 16713, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character is dead or does not exist!.
00:44:51.964 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16720, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Semus LoyaltyStarter 1
err: character not found


00:44:51.964 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16721, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Semus ReligionStarter 1	
err: character not found


00:44:51.964 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16722, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Semus StrategicSkill 1
err: character not found


00:44:51.964 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16723, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Semus GoodCommander 2
err: character not found


00:44:51.964 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16725, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_ancillary Queen_Semus rank_general1
err: character not found


00:44:51.965 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <move>, at line 16727, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character Queen_Semus doesn't exist.


01:38:34.215 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 116412, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
move_character "Sub_EntranceA" 65, 247
err: character not found


01:38:34.215 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <kill_character>, at line 116413, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character Sub_EntranceA doesn't exist.


01:56:16.964 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <send_character_off_map>, at line 15941, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character is dead or does not exist!.
01:56:16.965 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 15948, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Zekos LoyaltyStarter 1
err: character not found


01:56:16.966 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 15949, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Zekos ReligionStarter 1	
err: character not found


01:56:16.966 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 15950, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Zekos StrategicSkill 1
err: character not found


01:56:16.966 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 15951, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Zekos GoodCommander 2
err: character not found


01:56:16.966 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 15953, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_ancillary Zekos rank_general1
err: character not found


01:56:19.749 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <send_character_off_map>, at line 16745, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character is dead or does not exist!.
01:56:19.750 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16752, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Arctmus LoyaltyStarter 1
err: character not found


01:56:19.750 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16753, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Arctmus ReligionStarter 1	
err: character not found


01:56:19.750 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16754, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Arctmus StrategicSkill 1
err: character not found


01:56:19.751 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16755, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_trait Queen_Arctmus GoodCommander 2
err: character not found


01:56:19.751 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <console_command>, at line 16757, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
give_ancillary Queen_Arctmus rank_general1
err: character not found


01:56:19.751 [game.script] [error] Script execution error for <move>, at line 16759, in mods/Hyrule/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt: 
Character Queen_Arctmus doesn't exist.

Hyrule.script2.log:

02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083b_Update_Allies> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0084b_Update_Enemies> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0085_Update_Religion> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0089_Update_Band_Together1> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0090_Update_Band_Together2> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0093_Update_Normal_Difficulty> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0096_Increase_Global_Standing_New_Turn> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0106_Update_Trustworthy_Factions_Minor> fired
02:28:20.542 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
02:28:20.702 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0068_T_Battle_Engagement> fired
02:28:20.723 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0072_T_Undeclared_Attack> fired

Hyrule.script.log:

02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083b_Update_Allies> fired02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0084b_Update_Enemies> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0085_Update_Religion> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0089_Update_Band_Together1> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0090_Update_Band_Together2> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0093_Update_Normal_Difficulty> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0096_Increase_Global_Standing_New_Turn> fired
02:28:20.534 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0106_Update_Trustworthy_Factions_Minor> fired
02:28:20.542 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
02:28:20.702 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0068_T_Battle_Engagement> fired
02:28:20.723 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0072_T_Undeclared_Attack> fired

All the missing general entries do exist in the campaign_scripts-file - some could be dead or whatever.

[bitterhowl]

I got same thing now in my mod. I changed many unit models for different factions without testing them in campaign, only in custom battles. Now I figured that I forgot to copy some of them to all factions that can recruit them in EDB. And this error occures in my case when one general attacks another

[Mr_Nygren]

I got same thing now in my mod. I changed many unit models for different factions without testing them in campaign, only in custom battles. Now I figured that I forgot to copy some of them to all factions that can recruit them in EDB. And this error occures in my case when one general attacks another

I see - i will double-check all the ownerships in both the EDU and in the EDB then.

[alreadyded]

07:19:31.661 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal.

This I have not experienced in the log ever.


The script part, engagement error thing is relations updating in game if I remember right, I don't remember the file name but some vanilla M2TW code was effed up. The last line of the log, while funny, leads me to believe you have more than one problem. As in starting relations or something that is in there from the start of the game and the relations thing happening in game is the 'final straw'. My best advice is to clear all files that have to do with relations updating in game and perhaps the log will show something more specific when it crashes again. My logs always show specific things, I just have no clue what file that thing is in so I ask in this forum. Whatever file had TC_BATTLE_ENGAGEMENT in the file was the one I fixed, pretty sure of that. I don't know anything about modding this game though, I don't spend much time on it, I just make it happen when I do spend the time. Same with everything else.

[Gigantus]

07:19:31.661 [system.rpt] [error] Uh oh. This isn't good. No idea why, but exiting now. Sorry pal.

This I have not experienced in the log ever.

He has build his mod on my Bare Geomod set up - it's the mod's trademark error message, I use similar custom messages for all my mods

I am with you on the shadow issue, it would mean that defeating England before the Barons after they appear would cause a crash - which I have never heard about.
The 'last faction battle' crash is most of the time related to 'BecomesFactionLeader' trait conditions if the last leader and heir die in that last battle. Can't find the link to that related discussion, not sure if it was here or on the ORG.

[Razor]

He has build his mod on my Bare Geomod set up - it's the mod's trademark error message, I use similar custom messages for all my mods

I am with you on the shadow issue, it would mean that defeating England before the Barons after they appear would cause a crash - which I have never heard about.
The 'last faction battle' crash is most of the time related to 'BecomesFactionLeader' trait conditions if the last leader and heir die in that last battle. Can't find the link to that related discussion, not sure if it was here or on the ORG.

Do you perhaps mean this thread? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...causes-crashes