Saddam Hussein Loses appeal.

[VALIS]

He will be executed within 30 days.
With no further delays or appeals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6210245.stm

[jankren]

Poor Saddam gets what he deserves. However, I still believe that it takes ruthless kings like him in order to keep deeply multi cultural land like Iraq united and orderly. Even Iraqi Christians today can not even celebrate Christmas as freely as during Saddam's secular rule.

[danzig]

Poor Saddam gets what he deserves. However, I still believe that it takes ruthless kings like him in order to keep deeply multi cultural land like Iraq united and orderly. Even Iraqi Christians today can not even celebrate Christmas as freely as during Saddam's secular rule.

Its a catch 22 though, to quote old Ben those who give up liberty for security deserve neither. So was the security Iraqis had before worth the cost? Only a question Iraqis can answer and not one they can answer right now. The bump in the road of course is that the Iraqis didnt jump start the chain events themselves, an outside force (we Americans did) did which makes the road far more dangerous.

[jankren]

Its a catch 22 though, to quote old Ben those who give up liberty for security deserve neither. So was the security Iraqis had before worth the cost? Only a question Iraqis can answer and not one they can answer right now. The bump in the road of course is that the Iraqis didnt jump start the chain events themselves, an outside force (we Americans did) did which makes the road far more dangerous.

An Iraqi Shiite man told me once that after the 1st Gulf War many Iraqis mostly Shiites did try to jump to start the chain of events as you put it themselves. However he added that as happened before Americans chose to supply Saddam with weapons in order to suppress the revolt because they did not want a Shiite Iraq which would absolutely align itself w/ Iran.

[danzig]

An Iraqi Shiite man told me once that after the 1st Gulf War many Iraqis mostly Shiites did try to jump to start the chain of events as you put it themselves. However he added that as happened before Americans chose to supply Saddam with weapons in order to suppress the revolt because they did not want a Shiite Iraq which would absolutely align itself w/ Iran.

That is a new one, the US didnt supply arms to Saddam after the 1st Gulf War so care to provide some evidence of that? The US however DID fail to support the Shiites and Kurds which imo was a fatal mistake, I understand why GWB Sr didnt/couldnt directly do it by marching on to Baghdad but the timing would have been perfect if the US had indirectly aided them. I think aligning with Iran during 1st Gulf War would have been alot less likely then it is *now*.

[Richard the Lionheart]

I don't understand how Saddam could have even come close to winning his appeal. I don't think there's a lawyer in the world that could make him look innocent. He got what he deserved.

[VALIS]

^^

good points.
In retrospect saddam was a great leader for iraq and kept the people in line and well behaved.

[Da Skinna]

I thought the quote by old Ben was those who give up liberty for security end up giving will soon have neither.

Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither

Yeah... almost word for word I got it.

Saddam was an able ruler, not a just man, but a capable one that kept the country together for many years. He will be mourned.... by like 3 guys and the rest will spit on his name and continue screwing their future generations over for many more years than Saddam ever ruled... life's great.

[shadyrome]

iraqi is ****ed up country now since american and uk destroyed it for there oil's.







Please don't bypass the censor.

[RZZZA]

yea man its all for the oils its thansk to ignorance like this that people like George Bush get to do what they want. puh-leeze, you think we really need the oil in Iraq so much? Its a nice perk but, its only a fraction of the spoils. America profits most from the sale and distribution of B.S.

I dont think executing saddam is a very wise move, I sort of assumed that we would elay his execution for years and years and years as we squeeze him for everything hes worth. (plus they were saying that if he dies he'll become a martyr).

[shadyrome]

I don't see why he even have a court case.. its not like they going to say hey saddam you can leave now, have a nice day.

[Stalins Ghost]

And with him to the grave will go the evidence and trial of Western involvment in Iraq. Sickening frankly. I put my views on the verdict in a post a few weeks back, and I havn't changed them one bit. There are alot of politicians getting off the hook because they aren't trying cases with more scope.

[VALIS]

The trial was a bit silly.
Its not as if he would have ever been found innocent.

they should have killed him the day they found him and saved us from this stupid show trial.

[Sidus Preclarum]

The trial was a bit silly.
Its not as if he would have ever been found innocent.

they should have killed him the day they found him and saved us from this stupid show trial.

the "moral patriot" below that takes a whole new hilarious dimension.

[RZZZA]

I expect the execution of saddam to be exactly like his capture: overhyped and largely inconsequential.

[Stalins Ghost]

Or rather they should have actually tried him for cases of mass murder, not some small localised event (in comparison to the others) that would get the whole thing wrapped up handily for the "occupiers". People in the UK, US and other countries, some of which are still in political power deserve to take the fall some of the things commited while he was in power. As it stands the trial that occurs leaves numerous stones uncovered. Corruption wins over truth once again! Yay for human nature! Yay for corrupt politicians getting away with being accomplices to murder!

I guess I couldn't have expected much else though. Its a ****ed up world.

No offense Duke, but claiming to be a moral patriot, then advocating arbitrary execution is a bit hypocritical.

[RZZZA]

yeah, youre being awfully idealistic there stalin. What do you expect, politicians to NOT involve themselves in war? Starting them, waging them....thats pretty much part of the job discription. And hell, its entertaining if nothing else. If you cant find the good in millions of people killing eachother, then at least appreciate the entertainment value in it.

[Stalins Ghost]

the "moral patriot" below that takes a whole new hilarious dimension.

Score! Someone agrees with me on that one

I expect the execution of saddam to be exactly like his capture: overhyped and largely inconsequential.

Agreed. I still resent the proceedings of the trial. I doubt it will be as hyped as Saddamn in his skiddies mind.

[RZZZA]

"the "moral patriot" below that takes a whole new hilarious dimension."

Who, me?

I dont think we should be killing him, I dont think we can accurately predict what effect this would have on the regions we're trying to placate and win over. I think keeping him locked up, nice and comfy in his cell with all the cheetos and doritos he wants, is the best thing to do.

Why kill him? What good can come of it, and if any, does it outweigh all the possible bad scenarios that may arise as a result of his death?

[Sidus Preclarum]

"the "moral patriot" below that takes a whole new hilarious dimension."

Who, me?

stuff

use your eyes.