Biarchus
OfferedForMarriage event
Yup
I'd like to know when this event takes place ? Is it as soon as the offer pops up ? Or is it when you have accpeted the mariage ?
In fact, what I need to know is : how can I trigger some traits to fire when the player marries one of his girls, so that the newcomer has chances to get the new traits ? I want it to fire when the player has already accepted the marriage. Same for OfferedForAdoption ...
Thanks
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Re: OfferedForMarriage event
It takes place when the offer pops up: the traits for the guy being offered for adoption\marriage seem to be sure enough support of that.
Linking the character to traits of his father in law isn't something I would give much of a chance unless it's via the spouse (SpouseTrait\Attribute condition), the adopting father however can be linked directly via the FatherTrait\Attribute\Anc condition.
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
No it is not a matter of Father trait or whatever. It is just that I've seen in the docudemon OfferedForMarriage and CharacterMarries. Any idea of the difference ? Same for OfferedForAdoption and BrotherAdopted ... ?
Script To The Waist
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
OfferedForMarriage = as Gigantus said: when the offer is made, which can be accepted or rejected.
CharacterMarries = when the marriage actually happens, e.g. when you (or AI) agree to the offer.
OfferedForAdoption = like OfferedForMarriage but for adoptions.
BrotherAdopted = when someone is adopted this fires on the character(s) who are now his brothers, i.e. other son(s) of whoever adopted him.
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Got questions finally regarding father trait !Originally Posted by Withwnar
1/If I code
Then, the father in law who has the Trait > 0 should not be tested as you said above.Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_student1 WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 5
2/But if I code
Will it work ? I mean, the character's father in law is now considered his "real" father by the game ... ? Is it the same with OfferedForAdoption / BrotherAdopted ? Is there a way to limit this trigger to fire only once ? Because if I use BrotherAdopted/CharacterMarries, it will fire every trurn ?Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_student1 WhenToTest CharacterMarries Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 5
3/ If I code
Will the game consider the characters being "created" if adopted or married ? I mean could I replace these 2 OfferedForAdoption and OfferedForMarriage with the only AgentCreated ? Or does it only fire when you recruit a general via Unit recruitment ?Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_student1 WhenToTest AgentCreated Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 5
Thanks
Last edited by Titus le Chmakus; May 30, 2018 at 05:29 AM.
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Ok so I'd better use CharacterMarries.
For the second one, is there an equivalent to CharracterMarries but for Adoption ? And the same for LesserGeneralOfferedForAdoption ? I really want them to get traits but I have some unexpected crashes that are not listed in my log. It is pretty weird as the game runs normally for some factions but it crashes with one of them, despite having the same triggers (faction specific).
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
2, Don't think a father in law is taken as the father like in a adoption. But there is the SpouseTrait for married generals if it can fit your plans. Marriage and adoption events can fire only once by character, so you are safe on that.
3, It's a good question, but my guess would be no. Docudemon say, AgentCreated, 'an agent has been trained'.
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Re: OfferedForMarriage event
1) I don't know who "father" is for that event. The would-be father or his current father.
2) What do you mean "fire every turn"? It won't fire literally every turn. CharacterMarries only fires once on a character because he only marries once. BrotherAdopted could fire up to three times on a character: if he's the only son and his father adopts three sons.
3) Not sure when AgentCreated fires on named character types. Maybe never. Possibly if you recruit a general_unit unit because this does create a named character. Somehow I doubt it fires as a result of marriage and adoptions but it would need to be tested.
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Yup, but named character is in the AgentType of the docudemon ... Got to try that then ! I'll tell you !3, It's a good question, but my guess would be no. Docudemon say, AgentCreated, 'an agent has been trained'.
For the rest, I think I will stick to CharacterComeOfAge and AgentCreated, if it is not possible to apply it to the 2 other conditions of Generals creation.
Thanks
Edit : Damn you were right, AgentCreated does not work eighther with AgentType = named character, nor with = general not with TrainedAgentType = named character, nor with = general
Is there any way you can think of to appy traits to recruited generals ?
Last edited by Titus le Chmakus; May 31, 2018 at 06:56 AM.
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
AgentCreated doesn't work on EDB recruited general either? Now this, is unexpected. The only non family named character I can have are the scripted ones, and I have quite lowered this kind of spawn since a while, but beside traits given in the spawn, the other triggers based on TurnStart/End, PostBattle ect, work normally for them too.
But I thought the sons in law were your biggest issue for now? Can't you use the SpouseTrait? FatherTrait must work even on non princesses daughters?
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Trigger:
Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_father1 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEndInSettlement Condition AgentType = named character Affects IsInSettlementWithSchool -1 Chance 100 ;this one is to reset the trait every turn, so that if you take the character out of the city,he won't have the trait anymore ;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_father2 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEndInSettlement Condition AgentType = named character and SettlementBuildingExists = school Affects IsInSettlementWithSchool 1 Chance 100 ;this one is to give the trait back to every general remaining in the cities with the right building
Last edited by Titus le Chmakus; June 01, 2018 at 03:24 AM.
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Then
But it only works for Coming of Age generals and I cannot use SpouseTrait, because the spouse can never be in the settlement (as she does not appear ingame, appart from the family tree) ...Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_student1 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodAdministrator 1 Chance 5 Affects Intelligent 1 Chance 5 Affects StrategicSkill 1 Chance 5 Affects Disciplinarian 1 Chance 5 Affects InspiringSpeaker 1 Chance 5 Affects RhetoricSkill 1 Chance 5 Affects MathematicsSkill 1 Chance 5 Affects PoliticsSkill 5 Chance 5 Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 5 ;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_student2 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodFarmer 3 Chance 5 Affects GoodMiner 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodEngineer 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodTrader 12 Chance 5 Affects GoodBuilder 12 Chance 5 Affects GoodTaxman 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodManager 1 Chance 5
And I wanted to be able to code these very same triggers for the created generals, the adopted generals, the married generals and the lesser generals ... But this damn game cannot have the SettlementBuildingExists testing character_record ... It is very annoying to me !
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
True ! But as I need it for other traits, not related to schools but other building, that is why I ask !
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Nop, unfortunatly it does not ... Or at least I haven't found the right Event or Condition ... Maybe because the game considers you recruit the Bodyguards and not the general ...?AgentCreated doesn't work on EDB recruited general either?
Yeah I bet so, but it is of no help to what I want to do ... In fact, I want the generals created in a certain city to benefit from some of the buildings present in the city. I have created a school (3 levels) and various churches (it is a fantasy world with a lot of gods, like the romans). So each time a character is created by any mean, I want him to gain some traits. This works with Coming of Age characters because Withwnar told me how to do :TurnStart/End, PostBattle ect, work normally for them too.
Trait
Code:;------------------------------------------ Trait IsInSettlementWithSchool Characters family Hidden Level Schoolstudent Description Schoolstudent_desc EffectsDescription Schoolstudent_effects_desc Threshold 1
Script To The Waist
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
From memory the point of the ComeOfAge one was that he, as a child, spent time in the settlement's school. Just curious: why would an adopted or married general (a man, who could be of any age) be 'schooled' simply because his would-be father is currently near a school? Seems to me whether he's schooled or not depends on how he spent his childhood. He might have gone to school, he might not, so it would be a random chance that he did.
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Yup !
And also to generals recruited via Bodyguards recruitment ...
Biarchus
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
Lol, here was the question you asked !!!
Yeah, there are % in my schools ! Only the churches/temples have 100% for game balance reasons.Anyway, to answer your question, yes that's pretty much what I said earlier. That for any general coming into the faction other than by ComesOfAge he'd have a % chance of already being educated. What that chance is is up to you. If you think it's 100% then fine.
Other churches give building bonuses (like trade_income bonus or law_bonus), so if I wanted to be fair, the churches giving traits to generals had to be 100%
Here is for example, the school trigger
They are the same for Coming of Age and the other types of creation (marriage, adoption, etc ...)Code:Trigger school_student1 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodAdministrator 1 Chance 5 Affects Intelligent 1 Chance 5 Affects StrategicSkill 1 Chance 5 Affects Disciplinarian 1 Chance 5 Affects InspiringSpeaker 1 Chance 5 Affects RhetoricSkill 1 Chance 5 Affects MathematicsSkill 1 Chance 5 Affects PoliticsSkill 5 Chance 5 Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 5 Trigger school_student2 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects GoodFarmer 3 Chance 5 Affects GoodMiner 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodEngineer 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodTrader 12 Chance 5 Affects GoodBuilder 12 Chance 5 Affects GoodTaxman 1 Chance 5 Affects GoodManager 1 Chance 5
And the next levels increase the chances
College
UniversityCode:Trigger college_student1 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithCollege > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 10 Affects GoodCommander 2 Chance 5 Affects GoodAdministrator 1 Chance 10 Affects GoodAdministrator 6 Chance 5 Affects Intelligent 1 Chance 10 Affects Intelligent 2 Chance 5 Affects StrategicSkill 1 Chance 10 Affects StrategicSkill 3 Chance 5 Affects Disciplinarian 1 Chance 10 Affects Disciplinarian 2 Chance 5 Trigger college_student2 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithCollege > 0 Affects InspiringSpeaker 1 Chance 10 Affects InspiringSpeaker 2 Chance 5 Affects RhetoricSkill 1 Chance 10 Affects RhetoricSkill 2 Chance 5 Affects TacticalSkill 1 Chance 10 Affects TacticalSkill 2 Chance 5 Affects MathematicsSkill 1 Chance 10 Affects MathematicsSkill 2 Chance 5 Affects PoliticsSkill 5 Chance 10 Affects PoliticsSkill 10 Chance 5 Trigger college_student3 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithCollege > 0 Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 10 Affects LogisticalSkill 2 Chance 5 Affects GoodFarmer 3 Chance 10 Affects GoodFarmer 6 Chance 5 Affects GoodMiner 1 Chance 10 Affects GoodMiner 3 Chance 5 Affects GoodEngineer 1 Chance 10 Affects GoodEngineer 3 Chance 5 Affects GoodTrader 12 Chance 10 Affects GoodTrader 24 Chance 5 Trigger college_student4 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithCollege > 0 Affects GoodBuilder 12 Chance 10 Affects GoodBuilder 24 Chance 5 Affects GoodTaxman 1 Chance 10 Affects GoodTaxman 2 Chance 5 Affects GoodManager 1 Chance 10 Affects GoodManager 2 Chance 5
Code:Trigger university_student1 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithUniversity > 0 Affects GoodCommander 1 Chance 15 Affects GoodCommander 2 Chance 10 Affects GoodCommander 4 Chance 5 Affects GoodAdministrator 1 Chance 15 Affects GoodAdministrator 6 Chance 10 Affects GoodAdministrator 12 Chance 5 Affects Intelligent 1 Chance 15 Affects Intelligent 2 Chance 10 Affects Intelligent 4 Chance 5 Trigger university_student2 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithUniversity > 0 Affects StrategicSkill 1 Chance 15 Affects StrategicSkill 3 Chance 10 Affects StrategicSkill 5 Chance 5 Affects Disciplinarian 1 Chance 15 Affects Disciplinarian 2 Chance 10 Affects Disciplinarian 4 Chance 5 Affects InspiringSpeaker 1 Chance 15 Affects InspiringSpeaker 2 Chance 10 Affects InspiringSpeaker 4 Chance 5 Trigger university_student3 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithUniversity > 0 Affects RhetoricSkill 1 Chance 15 Affects RhetoricSkill 2 Chance 10 Affects RhetoricSkill 4 Chance 5 Affects TacticalSkill 1 Chance 15 Affects TacticalSkill 2 Chance 10 Affects TacticalSkill 4 Chance 5 Affects MathematicsSkill 1 Chance 15 Affects MathematicsSkill 2 Chance 10 Affects MathematicsSkill 4 Chance 5 Trigger university_student4 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithUniversity > 0 Affects PoliticsSkill 5 Chance 15 Affects PoliticsSkill 10 Chance 10 Affects PoliticsSkill 15 Chance 5 Affects LogisticalSkill 1 Chance 15 Affects LogisticalSkill 2 Chance 10 Affects LogisticalSkill 4 Chance 5 Affects GoodFarmer 3 Chance 15 Affects GoodFarmer 6 Chance 10 Affects GoodFarmer 12 Chance 5 Trigger university_student5 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithUniversity > 0 Affects GoodMiner 1 Chance 15 Affects GoodMiner 3 Chance 10 Affects GoodMiner 5 Chance 5 Affects GoodEngineer 1 Chance 15 Affects GoodEngineer 3 Chance 10 Affects GoodEngineer 6 Chance 5 Affects GoodTrader 12 Chance 15 Affects GoodTrader 24 Chance 10 Affects GoodTrader 48 Chance 5 Trigger university_student6 WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge Condition AgentType = named character and FatherTrait IsInSettlementWithUniversity > 0 Affects GoodBuilder 12 Chance 15 Affects GoodBuilder 24 Chance 10 Affects GoodBuilder 36 Chance 5 Affects GoodTaxman 1 Chance 15 Affects GoodTaxman 2 Chance 10 Affects GoodTaxman 3 Chance 5 Affects GoodManager 1 Chance 15 Affects GoodManager 2 Chance 10 Affects GoodManager 4 Chance 5
Last edited by Titus le Chmakus; June 07, 2018 at 07:45 AM.
Script To The Waist
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
So if, upon marriage or adoption, his new father is in a settlement with building X then this general gets a trait. Is that what you're trying to do?
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
I might tell you a foolisheness, it's the hit, my brain is getting slower in summer and all, but I still don't see the big difference between your adopted/recruited getting the trait right at their creation, or at TurnEnd? Especially if this school trait is supposed to be removed when they aren't in a shool settlement, like the 'fathers'?
One thing I can tell:
This will only work for character inside a settlement with no school. For characters on the outside, you need a other:Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_father1 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEndInSettlement Condition AgentType = named character and Trait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects IsInSettlementWithSchool -1 Chance 100 ;this one is to reset the trait every turn, so that if you take the character out of the city,he won't have the trait anymore
You might want to add the condition Trait as I did, even if this trait has only one level, it's a good habit so that triggers don't fire for nothing.Code:;------------------------------------------ Trigger school_father3 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd Condition AgentType = named character and not EndedInSettlement and Trait IsInSettlementWithSchool > 0 Affects IsInSettlementWithSchool -1 Chance 100 ;this one is to reset the trait every turn, so that if you take the character out of the city,he won't have the trait anymore
No idea if attributing traits to EDB recruits is actually possible at creation, your trials seem to say it's not. And as for adopted, well apparently not when one requirement is a specific building. This kind of things happen to me all the time, having to re-think things from a new angle because one event, condition or whatever doesn't exist or doesn't work as planned.
So, if TurnEnd isn't good enough for the rest of your plans, you might want to think up a other condition which has nothing to do with buildings for adopted/married characters at creation? That's where I would be in your boots I guess, browsing docudemons for inspiration. Other times I move on to other features on work and inspiration come later.
Last edited by selv; June 01, 2018 at 08:43 AM.
Script To The Waist
Re: OfferedForMarriage event
That's true. Alternatively, just change that first original trigger to CharacterTurnEnd.This will only work for character inside a settlement with no school. For characters on the outside, you need a other:
Yeah, seems there's no relevant event for it to use as the WhenToTest. Not directly.No idea if attributing traits to EDB recruits is actually possible at creation, your trials seem to say it's not.
This works...
A new hidden trait:
It works because unit recruitment (and therefore recruited general creation) happens before CharacterTurnEnd/CharacterTurnEndInSettlement. CharacterTurnStart has not yet fired upon him so he does not yet have the IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral trait. i.e. IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral = 0 means that he IS a newly recruited general.Code:;------------------------------------------ Trait IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral Characters family Hidden Level IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral Description IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral_desc EffectsDescription IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral_effects_desc Threshold 1 ;------------------------------------------ Trigger IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral_trigger1 WhenToTest CharacterTurnStart Condition Trait IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral = 0 Affects IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral 1 Chance 100 ;------------------------------------------ Trigger IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral_trigger2 WhenToTest CharacterMarries Condition Trait IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral = 0 Affects IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral 1 Chance 100 ;------------------------------------------ Trigger IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral_trigger3 WhenToTest OfferedForAdoption Condition Trait IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral = 0 Affects IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral 1 Chance 100 ;------------------------------------------ Trigger IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral_trigger4 WhenToTest LesserGeneralOfferedForAdoption Condition Trait IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral = 0 Affects IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral 1 Chance 100 ;------------------------------------------ Trigger RecruitedGeneral_trigger1 WhenToTest CharacterTurnEndInSettlement Condition Trait IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral = 0 ;and [building test or whatever can go here] Affects ...
Everybody else starts 'life' (in this faction) with the IsNotANewlyRecruitedGeneral trait. No need for a ComesOfAge trigger because CharacterTurnStart will fire upon them before CharacterTurnEnd does. Whereas marriages and adoptions happen between TurnStart and TurnEnd so, without those triggers, RecruitedGeneral_trigger1 would think that they're recruited.
EDIT: not the red trigger! See post 33.
Last edited by Withwnar; June 06, 2018 at 04:27 AM.
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