Yes it was, but I did not know shields were so cheap that anyone can have them. I'll change them around then.Originally Posted by Locus_Devium
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Yes it was, but I did not know shields were so cheap that anyone can have them. I'll change them around then.
Last edited by Azrien Fox; May 06, 2017 at 11:04 AM.
Alexandros
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Advice. Eirher u give shields 2 bas rhine schiktron militz or u change animation 4 2handed grasp of the pike
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Oh yeah I see what you mean, I'll change them around.
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Well, when I changed the animation for just the pike, it had the same effect. Also, I do not really want the miliz to have shields, because they are essentially peasants with pikes.
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Alright updated those spear and melee cav units that didnt have shields for everyone, and also updated the jager crossbows.
Alexandros
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Also tge hhorse head plate thing from coutiliers doesn t look gppd without aby horse armour or at least bardings... it shoukd be thicker... either give tgat or remove
Libertus
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Yep, i agree with Visarion it looks pretty strange and ridiculous.
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Well, horse armour was not always as complete as you might think. Knights often had only partial armour, too.
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Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Alright, well Ill look around for sources to support the horse head armour, if I cant find anything, Ill take them off.
Alexandros
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
What is your next project?
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
As in next faction? Well, I might do either trier to the north, and not do as much of a fleshed out military roster, so maybe more of a militia roster, and maybe use lorraine and flanders inspired units.
Or, I could go south and do either Provence, dauphine, or Savoy. But I think I might be doing trier.
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
But for right now, I need to get the generals done for lorraine lol.
Alexandros
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Is Flanders on your "to do" list as well!?
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
No I believe someone is working on Flanders, when I mean Flanders inspired, I mean like mercenaries from Flanders. They were a huge mercenary supplier during that time, so I might be able to use them. There's also a county of spongelm (or something like that) that had land with trier, I could use them as well.
Laetus
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Hello, Moïen, Bonjour !
I'm here to talk with you about Lorraine, and his history. I'm a grand player of TW games, i love history, and....i'm historian ! at your service.
So, can i suggest you some ( a lot) of modification from you work for a better Lorraine ?
i've all the stuff you need: book, map, letter, nobility list and genealogy...heraldy of the greater and lower nobility.
it's a real pleasure to help you if you want.
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Sure! If you have things for lorraine, go ahead and link them! And, any suggestions are appreciated!Hello, Moïen, Bonjour !
I'm here to talk with you about Lorraine, and his history. I'm a grand player of TW games, i love history, and....i'm historian ! at your service.
So, can i suggest you some ( a lot
i've all the stuff you need: book, map, letter, nobility list and genealogy...heraldy of the greater and lower nobility.
it's a real pleasure to help you if you want.
Laetus
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Ok, at first, you need the history of Lorraine.
In the first time of the duchy (869-1200), there is two different languages: Lorrain Roman ( Langue d'Oïl, french familly group) and Francique ( Mosel Frankish / Lothrìngerplatt, one of the first german language speaked by the Franks ), but it's one same culture ( but some difference with far west and south of the duchy, like Vosges). After 1250-1300, the duchy is divided in two bailly, Loherraine (Roman) and "Allemagne"(Francique), but the second is now reduce by 50%, so all the countys in the north east.
Lorraine is border by France and burgundy in west and south west, imperial county of burgundy ( Franche-comté) in south, Luxembourg, Tier and Palatinate in north ans the Alsace, Decapolis and Habsbourg territory in east.
I don't know how do you translate "Lorrain" in english, Lorrainian ? in some historical games/mod, that word is don't translate.
What do you need exactly for the Lorraine in the mod ?
Heraldy ?
General names ?
specific unit name ?
tell me all what you need, i'm here for you.
( sorry for my really bad english
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Hmm, well I would mostly need heraldry and unit names, possibly in Lorrain or Lorraine Franconian. I wanted to use mostly Lorrain based names for the 15th century units, but the best I found was some (not very good) Alsatian translation site that has nothing of value in military terms, I.e. levy, city, guild, spearmen, crossbowmen, etc. So I've been using Alsatian, German and French for the most part. If Lorrain was something spoken a lot in the 14th century, I could use some Lorrain names, instead of the 'Lorrainer "insert name here" '. But I think it's either Lorrain or Lorrainer for the English version of people hailing from lorraine.Ok, at first, you need the history of Lorraine.
In the first time of the duchy (869-1200), there is two different languages: Lorrain Roman ( Langue d'Oïl, french familly group) and Francique ( Mosel Frankish / Lothrìngerplatt, one of the first german language speaked by the Franks ), but it's one same culture ( but some difference with far west and south of the duchy, like Vosges). After 1250-1300, the duchy is divided in two bailly, Loherraine (Roman) and "Allemagne"(Francique), but the second is now reduce by 50%, so all the countys in the north east.
Lorraine is border by France and burgundy in west and south west, imperial county of burgundy ( Franche-comté) in south, Luxembourg, Tier and Palatinate in north ans the Alsace, Decapolis and Habsbourg territory in east.
I don't know how do you translate "Lorrain" in english, Lorrainian ? in some historical games/mod, that word is don't translate.
What do you need exactly for the Lorraine in the mod ?
Heraldy ?
General names ?
specific unit name ?
tell me all what you need, i'm here for you.
( sorry for my really bad english
Other than that, maybe heraldry, I've been using some cadet branches of the ruling houses during the medieval period and put them together, so I have Limburg, ravensburg, Châtlet, Lorraine, Cappenburg, Lietard, Salm, salm-neuburg, de Leoncourt, vaudemont, Ardennes / boullion, and theres probably one or two I missed. But I wanted to make sure these made sense, because like Limburg and anoher branch I listed come from lower lorraine, which would be Brabant by the time of the mod. If you have any more Lorraine-loyal houses you have info on, I would appreciate it. Something else too is I kinda bunched in Alsace with lorraine as one faction just because it would seem as if there was no rivalry between the two regions, and in layer years (I.e. around WWI era) the region of Alsace-Lorraine changed sides quite a bit. So yeah, im tying to think if thats a good idea to include Alsace in with lorraine or not.
But that's mostly it.
Last edited by Azrien Fox; May 21, 2017 at 04:09 PM.
Laetus
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Hmmm that's not so difficult, just a little lot of time for the units name in Lorrain and Franconian, ( i have to read very old book in my library, big book with little words)
For the loyal houses in Lorraine, it's the Grands Chevaux ( greater chivalry ): d'Haraucourt, de Lenoncourt, de Ligniville and du Châtelet. And for a much bigger list of loyal house you can add: de Salm, de Briey, d'Haussonville, de Fléville, des Armoises, de Ludres
But for some exemple in the 14/15th:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
And for the Heraldy:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
In the period of the mod, Alsace is a vassal, and in 14/15th, not good relations....lot of war between Lorraine et Alsace.
Civis
Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The Duchy of Lorraine
Thank you for researching that stuff! Yeah well I dont need much in terms of Lorrain words, I did also want to use Alsatian, but seeing as how alsace wasn't good with lorraine, I can change my name's up a bit.
I really though wanted to keep the multicultural aspect that Lorraine has seeing as how they're on the border of many major and minor powers, so I really want to keep the sawell de mann as their unit name, but I would probably use the Lorrain word maybe for pikemen or pike and then men, while still keeping the instances of German and French.
In that case also, I could rename the chevaliers to Lorrain Chevaliers for the high and late tier.
And I could maybe use some words in Lorrain to derive essentially a defector or traitor of Alsace, and use like the Neither Levy Archers and rename them to Alsatian (Lorrain word for defector /traitor) archers.
You know? Kind of show off the rivalry between them while also showing the influence other cultures give off on lorraine.
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