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    Default Jimmy Carter the only man of truth

    Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv49I...elated&search=

    Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmebH...elated&search=


    Edit: I had to edit the video cause there is a devil women who talks in the end discrediting the President.
    Last edited by Tigran of Sasoun; December 24, 2006 at 07:17 PM.

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    ughh.....i dont know if its his old age or him being american,but he talks so slooooow
    ive noticed this with americans,they speak extremley slowly. Evariste does this in the podcast,as do many of his interviewees.

    maybe this is just me but ive noticed this.
    some english people talk very very slow as well.
    pisses me right off!

    EDIT: why did you edit the woman out?
    she was speaking sense.
    she raised valid issues at the end and certainly points out some interesting observations concerning his book.

    heres the video.she's at the very end

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTT2X...elated&search=
    Last edited by VALIS; December 24, 2006 at 09:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The DUKE View Post
    ughh.....i dont know if its his old age or him being american,but he talks so slooooow
    ive noticed this with americans,they speak extremley slowly. Evariste does this in the podcast,as do many of his interviewees.
    I dont know about Evariste, but Jimmy Carter is from the South (Georgia, IIRC). We tend to speak a bit more slowly down here than people in the North. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but in general, thats how it is.

    As far as the video goes...I cant watch it. For whatever reason, YouTube will simply stop loading videos after the first couple of seconds whenever I try to watch one. It really sucks.

    Edit: Ah...Evariste is from Florida.
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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter the only man of truth

    Quote Originally Posted by The DUKE View Post
    ughh.....i dont know if its his old age or him being american,but he talks so slooooow
    ive noticed this with americans,they speak extremley slowly. Evariste does this in the podcast,as do many of his interviewees.
    That's funny, because most people that I converse with in my daily life constantly force me to slow down. If I talked on the podcast as I did in real life, no one would be able to understand me!

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    dhimmy carter is a shill for terrorists, dictators and thugs everywhere

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    Yes a president who stand for something except oil, a president who tries to fight for those without a voice, is now nothing.....

    You know, America is a very weird country, I do not understand it, but here is a president that stand for something and everyone starts attacking him.:hmmm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigran of Sasoun View Post
    Yes a president who stand for something except oil, a president who tries to fight for those without a voice, is now nothing.....
    A President who's actions (until Bush) probably ranked him up there with one of the greatet failures as US leader....intention does it matter no? The end result does, its why Bush = bad President so why should Carter be held to a different standard when nearly everything he has touched (save Egypt/Israeli peace agreement) has turned to a pile of steaming poop.

    You know, America is a very weird country, I do not understand it, but here is a president that stand for something and everyone starts attacking him.:hmmm:
    Standing for something is one thing, Carter is no doubt a very nice man who has helped the homeless and done very nice thing for people themselves. Just because someone 'stands' for something doesnt mean they are qualified leaders. The legacy of Carter's leadership is what bring him down and too often now he is speaking out on issues that in the past he has failed utterly on. It would be like 20 years from now Bush Jr offering advice on Iraq/Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigran of Sasoun View Post
    Yes a president who stand for something except oil, a president who tries to fight for those without a voice, is now nothing.....

    You know, America is a very weird country, I do not understand it, but here is a president that stand for something and everyone starts attacking him.:hmmm:
    Jimmy Carter was one of the worst presidents we ever had, and now all he does is bash the current administration and conservatism in general at every opportunity. Like most other liberals, Carter is consistently off base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMERICARULES View Post
    Jimmy Carter was one of the worst presidents we ever had, and now all he does is bash the current administration and conservatism in general at every opportunity. Like most other liberals, Carter is consistently off base.
    I wouldn't be talking "AMERICARULES", you look bad on conservatives.

    At least Carter presents his extremely reasonable points in a decent fashion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Warlord View Post
    At least Carter presents his extremely reasonable points in a decent fashion...
    And what extremely reasonable points are you talking about? That somehow our foreign interests should be subservient to some murky idea of a greater worldwide good? I'm sorry but that **** ain't gonna fly. America has always held the moral high ground over the rest of the world, and my government damn well better put my country's priorities first. When Carter didn't do this in the hostage crisis, he lost all credibility in my eyes as someone fit to speak about politics.
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    You shouldn't have edited out the woman, as it would be better to give another opposing view. If she was just ranting and raving like a lunatic, then perhaps not, as such from liberals or republicans shouldn't be considered along with intelligent political thought.

    I don't know enough about his Presidency. I know the Iranian Embassy Scandal and think that the rescue operation could have been done better, but I do not know if it was the military or his fault. I have heard that it was his, that he ordered it, and that in another case the Military designed it and he okd it. I'm sure those that hate him will tell me he designed it, those that don't the military. I'm not going to believe either of you, and think that both had a part to play in it instead.

    I know that my mother considers him the reason she was able to get into college and adores him among other reasons because of it. I do not recall the specifics but believe it was one of those small little things we forget about a president in the wake of bigger, more epic things (Iraq, Vietnam, Civil rights, Blowjob scandal, Iran-Contra, Iranian Embassy, ect.). I think no matter your opinion of the man's performance, you shouldn't try and discredit him as a person. Insult his performance, his actions, but I don't think it would be right to insult him as a man. By all means he seems to be a truly good hearted individual. Probably the kind of guy I would want to know and be friends with, and possibly not the man I'd want as president.

    Watching it now. Yeah, I have a habit of viewing things after writing. Or just writing.

    So far I agree on the issue on that we have almost no discussion in public affairs about Israel. Even if you feel they stand on higher moral grounds, the fact that they truly are seen as infallible and untouchable is a legitimate view. It is somewhat like our allies during the Cold war: We can't criticize them, because they are with us against our common foe: Islamic Violence. Adding onto the fact of the Holocaust, a horrible event, there is a removal of Israel from any sort of criticism.

    I disagree on the broad statement that Israel is the main instigator of all the peace processes. I agree on some parts, but I think it's more of an equilibrium, as I cannot say with satisfaction on just who the hell is the starter of that ungodly (irony!) quagmire in their holy lands. Back and forth and back and forth, I'm finding those that say Palestine is wholly the blame are ignorantly siding with Israel, and those that do the same to Israel are ignorantly siding with Palestine. I'll sit on the fence for the one who began it. Better company than either side, and I get to watch the fireworks from either.

    He also toots his horn for his own achievements during his presidency, and while I think that's a bit of pride and forget if other president's didn't also do the egypt-israel thing, that is an achievement of one/many presidents that still stands. I remember speaking with an Israeli friend who still felt as though Egypt would betray the agreement and attack, and it's been almost 30 years since the peace signing, and to my knowledge Egypt has not threatened them in the way they used to.

    Seems to show that bowing towards a black box in the desert doesn't make it impossible to find peace with Israel, as well as not eating pig not making it impossible to find peace with Muslims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigran
    You know, America is a very weird country, I do not understand it, but here is a president that stand for something and everyone starts attacking him
    Huh? uh, this doesn't really make sense, perhaps you should add more info? cause i'm really tempted to just take this at face value and think of some pretty nasty things to say.
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    why? What did Carter do to consider him one of the worst ever? (I wasnt around for his presidency)

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    Carter simply had a terribly bad luck. The Iran Hostage crisis destroyed his chances of reelection. I consider him a intelligent man, although his foundation lacks any sense of reality.
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    why? What did Carter do to consider him one of the worst ever? (I wasnt around for his presidency)
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    Carter may have failed in many respects, but at least he had a true heart and he tried to do good in the world. He wasn't Machiavellian enough though, especially for the Middle East and it ended up wrecking his presidency in the end.

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