How-To: Add other faction units for new factions

[ozzy_t]

thanks for the help
my mistake it wasn't venice but spain so the textures are close anyway
ive just got to re give spain the militia and maybe just try to create a new unit of pikemen just for england maybe like the french pikemen

kleemann

Make sure you:
1. stringlenght and lenght number not mach
2. number of factions is not correct in both sections (texture and weapons)
3. you have wrong space somewhere

do you mean make sure check if

[King Kong]

First of all, many thanks for this great guide from M3rcury15 and the much more modder friendly modeldb file from KnightErrant! Really good work!

But I have a big problem:
I wanted to add the Saxons as a faction on campaign map.
Well, all added units work fine, except cavalry units (cavalry is invisible or, with the imperial knights, the riders are invisible!).
And when I put the saxons to the mounts, as described in the guide, the game won't start... No matter to which horse I put them.

Here is an example, what I added (red) and changed (blue) to the mounts:

5 Horse
14 fs_heavy_horse 0
0 0 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0
20 mount_armoured_horse 1.12 3
73 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/mount_armoured_horse_lod0.mesh 121
73 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/mount_armoured_horse_lod1.mesh 1225
73 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/mount_armoured_horse_lod2.mesh 10000
16
7 england
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_england.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/england_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
8 scotland
92 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_scotland.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/scotland_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 france
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_france.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/france_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
3 hre
87 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_hre.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/hre_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
7 denmark
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_denmark.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/denmark_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
5 spain
89 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_spain.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/spain_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
8 portugal
92 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_portugal.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
53 unit_sprites/portugal_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
5 milan
89 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_milan.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/milan_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 venice
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_venice.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/venice_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
12 papal_states
96 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_papal_states.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
57 unit_sprites/papal_states_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 sicily
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_sicily.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/sicily_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
6 poland
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_poland.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
51 unit_sprites/poland_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
7 hungary
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_hungary.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
52 unit_sprites/hungary_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
5 slave
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_denmark.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
50 unit_sprites/slave_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr
4 merc
91 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_denmark.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
49 unit_sprites/merc_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr 0 1
6 saxons
87 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_hre.texture
90 unit_models/Mounts/European_Armoured_Horse/textures/european_armoured_horse_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/hre_Mount_Armoured_Horse_sprite.spr

..the red text (except the line: 6 saxons) was copied and pasted from the hre...


Can anyone help??

Many thanks in advance!

[KnightErrant]

@King Kong
Look at the 15th entry (the mercs). See the 0 1 at the end of that line?
I think you need to cut this and put it at the end of your added lines.
Make sure it ends with a space character.

@TheEmperorsPointyStick
As with all things related to this file its hard to say what
will work and what wont. Short answer is I THINK its ok
to be at the end of a line, hit ENTER, and begin putting in
a new entry. However, from your example most people just
copy/paste a section from somewhere else and that should already
have the correct formatting i.e. spaces at the end of a line, double
spaces after the special 0's and so on. Just doing a quick read it
looks like you're doing the right thing, counting the characters in the
line, changing the number of factions when you add an entry, etc.

But, like I said, there's no knowing until you try it out. Best of luck.

[TheEmperorsPointyStick]

Thanks a bunch for your reply. I guess I'll have to find out the good ol' way - trial and error.
I'm not at all experienced in all those different file versions (mesh, sprite, texture, etc.). Can you tell me which of those (if any) I added is responsible for shield appearance (black with white cross)?

[KnightErrant]

To be honest I don't really know. I only started looking at this file last
Thursday and wrote the formatting script at lunchtime. This past weekend
I did my first unit add in following this tutorial (I added Scotland's noble
pikemen to England just for fun.) My very rudimentary understanding is
that the .mesh files define the shape or animation maybe of the figure,
the .texture file is what puts "the clothes" on, i.e. faction colors and symbols
maybe, and the .spr are the sprites, the tiny figures you see when the unit
is far away. My guess is that the stuff under the /AttachmentSets directory
might have something to do with shields (just judging from the name) but it
could equally well be their helmuts or lances, don't know. Interesting
experiment, take a screenie of the unit now and then change the
/AttachmentSets entry to something else and see what happens.

[misfitsfiend138]

hey i need help adding the norse axemen to england. im not sure how to add units with multiple armor upgrades, i only knw how to add units with no upgrades. can someone help me out.

[misfitsfiend138]

heres wat i put so far.

-0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 12 norse_axemen 1 4 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/norse_axemen_lod0.mesh 121 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/norse_axemen_lod1.mesh 900 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/norse_axemen_lod2.mesh 2500 56 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/norse_axemen_lod3.mesh 6400 2 7 denmark 73 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_denmark.texture 72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture 44 unit_sprites/denmark_Norse_Axemen_sprite.spr 7 england
73 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_england.texture
72 unit_models/_Units/LN_Lmail_Hmail/textures/LN_Lmail_Hmail_normal.texture
44 unit_sprites/denmark_Norse_Axemen_sprite.spr 2 7 denmark 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_denmark_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_denmark_norm.texture 0 7 england
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_england_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_england_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 11 MTW2_2H_Axe 0 2 19 MTW2_2H_Axe_primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16
-0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002 16 norse_axemen_ug1 1 3 66 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/norse_axemen_ug1_lod0.mesh 121 66 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/norse_axemen_ug1_lod1.mesh 1225 66 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/norse_axemen_ug1_lod2.mesh 6400 2 7 denmark 82 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_denmark.texture 81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture 48 unit_sprites/denmark_Norse_Axemen_ug1_sprite.spr 7 england
82 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_england.texture
81 unit_models/_Units/LN_3QPlate_HalfPlate/textures/mtw2_LN_halfplate_normal.texture
48 unit_sprites/denmark_Norse_Axemen_ug1_sprite.spr 2 7 denmark 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_denmark_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_denmark_norm.texture 0 7 england
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_england_diff.texture 60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Danish_england_norm.texture 0 1 4 None 11 MTW2_2H_Axe 0 2 19 MTW2_2H_Axe_primary 14 fs_test_shield 0 16

it crashses just as the custom battle screen loads

[funky_kiwi]

Hi mercury,
I've got a question for you : I tried to give the scots guard model to french mounted archers using both battle_models & export_descr_unit (for the guys not 2 be standing on the horses), but it appears that they have giant longbows in front of their horses without actually holding them, do you know what I have to modify to make them have the same longbow as regular french mounted archers ug1 ?

[choooo1105]

Still cant get anything to work... help someone?

[funky_kiwi]

that's what I thought, but thx a lot 4 making me sure, otherwise I'd have kept searching :-D

by the way, thx also for this tutorial & the two first links, helped me a lot ;-)

[m.minkov]

First I want to say thank you M3rcury15, for writting down this wonderful tutorial.

I made a search for the thing I'm going to ask, but didn't find anything.
I gave the normans(I modded them in) Mongol Light Lancer unit. Everything is fine except that when this unit is the leading one of my army, the captain is "invisible". I've added many mercs and their captains are OK, but the captain of the MLL is invisible.
Interesting thing is that I've added also Dismounted Druzhina and their captain is OK as well.

Can s'one help?

[funky_kiwi]

another question, lol, how could I create a unit from nothing ?

and where are the files where written informations about units can be found ( & if u also know, where are the files where the traduced versions of these informations are located (because I have a non-english version)) ?

[glitch]

I was wondering if anyone could help me with dismounted/mounted russian feudal knights. I pretty much understand eveything except the battle_models.modeldb code, i've found most of the code (i think) but I keep over looking parts and i'm not exactly sure what to change , I know I have put "7 russia" and some other simple stuff but that's about it. I went to the link about the battle_models.modeldb turtorial, but it it didn't help me much.

I was just thinking about copying one coded line for one faction (lets say england) ,pasting it to another notepad, editing it for russia and then pasting that edited line back in to the battle_models.modeldb . I still need help getting the exact code and how to edit properly. thanks

[misfitsfiend138]

well ive come to a conclusion that u cant give the norse axemen to any faction. the reason is because only 2 factions carry the " Final Danish_X_diff.texture
and Final Danish_X_norm.texture ". those factions are denmark and russia.

[funky_kiwi]

guys I gotta problem, I added new units 2 france from nothing, and it works well on custom battles, but when I play on campaign I can't recruit any infantry unit, even though I check the export_descr_buildings file , which is correct. So could any 1 help me plzzzz

[M3rcury15]

@misfitsfiend138: No like this

This is code with many       spaces

@m.minkov: Hmm... i don't know why the general is invisible the general can't be invisible if you added the unit properly in descr_units file

@glitch: Do exactly as you just said that's how i did the first time but remember edit 1by1 not whole together, first thing you should edit first is faction name then check if it works if it does then start editing textures text

@funky_kiwi: There is a different tutorial for export_descr_buildings

[misfitsfiend138]

@m3rcury, i finally figured out by wat u mean by "code" the thing is it just wont work. enlgand doesnt have a Final Danish_X_diff.texture and Final Danish_X_norm.texture in the attachment file.

[M3rcury15]

I know that but you still can edit that file to put english colors or you don't edit the file at all just keep it dutch clothes but english faction...

[misfitsfiend138]

o ok, ill give it a shot tomorrow.

[glitch]

@ M3rcury15

do you happen to have the mounted/ dismounted feudal knight code ? I keep missing parts.