Medieval Kingdoms Total War : The Khwarazmian Empire and the Armies of Iran

[Visarion]

I don't know if there's clear intent for the Ilkhanids to follow the Timurid military model (I do think so from talking to Dontfearme), but yes, my general idea is to stick with the Ilkhanid successors and Turkoman dynasties of Northern Mesopotamia and Iran for the 14th and 15th centuries in terms of military style. There's not an abundance of information, so I do try to keep it as plausible as possible.

Yeah i like tge idea. Luv 2 see the evolution of your faction and how u continuasly improve ur skills

[Visarion]

In terms of colors yeah I would change the overcoats of the atabeg s ghilmans... that green is way too flahy

[AnthoniusII]

Faris meanes horsemen thanks to the Arabian word fari that means the horse. No Faris would fight as footman.

[zsimmortal]

Faris meanes horsemen thanks to the Arabian word fari that means the horse. No Faris would fight as footman.

Faris denotes people trained in the knightly martial arts as per the Eastern Arabic/Persian standard. While they were trained to fight from horseback (along with on foot), the unit is a compromise for faction balance.

[You_Guess_Who]

You mean something like Dismounted Chevaliers, because Cheval=Horse?

[zsimmortal]

You mean something like Dismounted Chevaliers, because Cheval=Horse?

Well, the faris comes from the cultural exchange after the conquest of Iran, where the tradition of aristocratic heavy cavalry elite, savaran (horsemen in persian), was adopted. A faris was the military elite, trained to fight with many weapons like the bow, lance, sword, on foot and from horseback. Obviously, the elite generally fought while mounted, but it's not like they couldn't fight on foot. I could just add 'dismounted", but it just feels cluttered.

[Slytacular]

Could name them Foot Faris.

[zsimmortal]

Could name them Foot Faris.

Seems like a pointless distinction, but I can always comply to some re-naming if it's that upsetting to some people.

[Visarion]

So new horses 4 iran?

[zsimmortal]

Finished uploading all of the T2 units for the Khwarazm faction. Will probably do the rest of T2 and the finishing touches a tad slower since I've been going at a pretty frantic pace since January/February.

[Visarion]

Omgggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Visarion]

Waiting forword 4 the descriptions

[Visarion]

Bavandids still to come?

[Knight2708]

Wow these are amazing! Btw are the Mongol models in the Khwarazmian Ghilman and general's units a place holder for unfinished models or are they here to stay?

[Locus_Devium]

I wonder why there is so much golden armour? Is it a era speicific thing or just for the looks.

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[zsimmortal]

Wow these are amazing! Btw are the Mongol models in the Khwarazmian Ghilman and general's units a place holder for unfinished models or are they here to stay?

They're there to stay. I made a few long lamellar coat models, but I also used some of dontfearme's for diversity (since they had a different look). It's pretty much the kind of armour you'd see in 14th century Persian miniatures.

I wonder why there is so much golden armour? Is it a era speicific thing or just for the looks.

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There's an ungodly amount of golden helmets, vambraces and armour (for men and horses) in the period miniatures. There's still a lot in the 15th century Timurid ones, but it's less overwhelming.

Bavandids still to come?

They will be emergent, so they don't get anything.

[Locus_Devium]

The pushan molazman look great although their shoulderplates look a bit low quality texture alike.

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[zsimmortal]

The pushan molazman look great although their shoulderplates look a bit low quality texture alike.

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They're the same as the thigh plates. It's probably because of the reflection.

[Visarion]

How will the Eldiguzid Dynasty of Kypchak Atabegs of Azerbaijan and Arran be represented, let's say Atabeg Uzbek?

[Khevsur]

How will the Eldiguzid Dynasty of Kypchak Atabegs of Azerbaijan and Arran be represented, let's say Atabeg Uzbek?

this is XVII-XVIII c iranian helmets.