Is getting 0 from a province normal?

**AT_Teddy** · February 10, 2017, 11:16 PM

I'm getting empire tax issues which is cool and okay but I was curious if they're supposed to go beyond 100%? They're currently at 140+ and means I'm getting literally 0 income in some of my regions.

Also when I click certain generals it changes my treasury by 1 or 2? It's really strange

**Dresden** · February 11, 2017, 12:59 AM

Have you turned off taxes in that province?

**AT_Teddy** · February 11, 2017, 01:46 AM

I haven't! I double checked to make sure. It really is just giving me 0.

**Theramines** · February 11, 2017, 02:45 AM

It's related to tax rates. Open your provinces list (bottom right campaign screen) and then open your trade and finance. Slide the tax rate back and forth and you'll see provincial income jump around from 0 to whatever. Only my richest provinces record any income at the lowest tax rates. I'm not economically savvy enough to explain why though.

**AT_Teddy** · February 11, 2017, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Theramines

It's related to tax rates. Open your provinces list (bottom right campaign screen) and then open your trade and finance. Slide the tax rate back and forth and you'll see provincial income jump around from 0 to whatever. Only my richest provinces record any income at the lowest tax rates. I'm not economically savvy enough to explain why though.

Thanks!

I was wondering if it worked that way because seeing 0 income is jarring. Glad to know it's a feature!

**Augustusng** · February 11, 2017, 05:43 AM

It's most likely because of the empire maintenance penalty, which you'll notice in the provincial income overview under the tax rate and slave income percentages. Empire maintenance increases as your imperium grows.

**PatrickT** · February 24, 2017, 07:02 AM

I'm facing the same issue. Here's my 2 cents.

I think the empire maintenance should at least have a cap. In my Parthia campaign I barely conquered Syria and I'm faced with a 205% empire maintenance malus at Imperium Level V. This means that I no longer get any income from taxes, which renders the tax slider useless. As the matter of fact, according to the income display, I have a negative income from taxes. I have all but the final tier techs from philosophy, which if researched, would in total gain me a -20% empire maintenance reduction. This wouldn't matter much however, as the next tier of Imperium Level will increase the maintenance by another 10% and the rest would be wasted by my dying advisors.

Don't get me wrong; I love this mod and I usually don't play without it. I agree that there should be a mechanic that makes the end game more challenging, but this is just too much.

I would suggest introducing a cap to empire maintenance, so that you're at least able to levy some taxes.