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Thread: [SUBMOD: a Slower Paced DeI Campaign] TESTUDO v.1.6 (DeI 1.2.5) + Custom Packs [upd: aug.07/19]

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2a)

    Sorry, another update needed 'cause i messed something with replenishment
    updated OP and download
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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2a)

    What is the difference between this and the "hardcore" submod ?

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2a)

    They are similar.
    Turtle should be easier, with no restrictions to economy or to Ai behaviour and bonuses.
    It is also less slow for buildings and culture.
    It has reduced strat map movement.
    Some little differences here and there.

    They aim quite the same goal, though there are some differences reguarding playability and difficulty.
    You could say TURTLE is half way between vanilla and hardcore

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2a)

    They are similar.
    Turtle should be easier, with no restrictions to economy or to Ai behaviour and bonuses.
    It is also less slow for buildings and culture.
    It has reduced strat map movement.
    Some little differences here and there.

    They aim quite the same goal, though there are some differences reguarding playability and difficulty.
    You could say TURTLE is half way between vanilla and hardcore
    Ok, thank you for answer.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + various stratmap movement range

    updated OP with new TURTLE version and the various stratmap movement range packs

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + various stratmap movement range

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Armitage View Post
    updated OP with new TURTLE version and the various stratmap movement range packs
    Very nice buddy. Thanks for the update.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.0 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + economy script + various stratmap movement range

    News in the OP!
    The old TURTLE (now TESTUDO) has many more features for a challenging and slower campaign.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.0 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + economy script + various stratmap movement range

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Armitage View Post
    News in the OP!
    The old TURTLE (now TESTUDO) has many more features for a challenging and slower campaign.
    Good to know. I see many changes.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.0 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + economy/population scripts + various stratmap movement range

    Yeah, there are a lot of micromanagement features and, above all, the economy script that slow you down while you grow, it's a sort of imperium level that happens more often but less severely.
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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.0 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + economy/population scripts + various stratmap movement range

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Armitage View Post
    Yeah, there are a lot of micromanagement features and, above all, the economy script that slow you down while you grow, it's a sort of imperium level (values not changed) that happens more often but less severely.
    Nice. I always liked slow paced campaigns, with demanding micromanagement for the player.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    UPDATED to v.1.1
    You can now download Small/Medium/Large version for the economy/population and the new added civil war scripts mods.
    There is also a NO civil war pack.

    changelog:
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    v1.1 [3 march 18]
    - slightly changed values here and there to be more difficult- added civil war script mod

    - added S/M/L versions to economy/population/civilwar





    Last edited by Jake Armitage; March 11, 2018 at 04:16 PM.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    Hey Jake, I just read description of the mod and really liked it. Gonna try it soon. How different is your medium civil war chance from vanilla DEI?

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    Happy to hear.
    Well, I can't say for sure, I edited them yesterday and still trying.
    I would say it should complessively decrease chances by 10/15 %.
    You can remove politcs_trait_defs.lua into lua_scripts to have vanilla values.
    TESTUDO is a much slower campaign, and i had many issues with civil war, that's the reason I slightly decreased chances.

    Honestly I'm playing a rome campaign with the civilwar Small pack, so I can still feel a little danger but remain a republic with all 4 parties
    Last edited by Jake Armitage; March 03, 2018 at 11:30 AM.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TURTLE (for DeI 1.2.2a)

    Hey

    Description sounds really good. I do like the slower grind of a campaign. Makes it seem more realistic for me especially with the increased difficulty of managing your empire and armies. The Increased micro is good too. Few questions though:
    1) The economy penalties don't apply to the AI. How does this play out in game? Not a fan of AI factions which have two cities yet are able to field a few 20 stacks and flood me whilst I can only maintain 1 due to the increased upkeep and everything else
    2) I'm playing with 24TPY - I like seasons being longer so there's an actual element of not being able to campaign effectively in the winter as it should be realistically -, will that throw the balance off with all the changes you've made?
    3) Why are there small, medium and large versions? Do you have to choose one based on how many regions you own? If so, does that mean once my territory increases in size to the next threshold of medium or large, I have to change the mods in my data folder?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    Hey there.

    1) in some way it is like you say, AI (also 'cause it has the possibility to field 1 army more per imperium, like the player) should be more difficult to beat. In my testing rome campaigns I erase Epirus in 70/90 turns after 3/4 major battles but they were never in the condition to overcome me (beside taking bruttium which might happen in vanilla too).
    2) regarding seasons, i've slightly changed only movement, PO, and growth bonuses/maluses, so there shouldn't be major issues but i would advice to play at least 12 tpy, 24 is really too much, anyway gamplay is a personal choice. Please report what happens in 24 tpy if you have time and will
    3) Small = minor penalty / Medium = medium penalty / Large = larger penalty. You can choose the one you prefer, but the script is the same regarding the number of region owned. S/M/L define the quantity of penalties, not regions' number. Stay with medium (already included in TESTUDO) and see what happens, if it is too much tight then load the small pack before TESTUDO, or wait a dozen of turns to rebuild economy.

    To you!

    Just a minor thing: the civwar packs are actually set to trigger events for 5/13 (and mutltiple) turns, not 4 and 12, I'll have to change this
    Last edited by Jake Armitage; March 06, 2018 at 10:06 AM.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    I want to give a go to this today. Is it compatible with latest patch?
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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1 (for DeI 1.2.2g/h hotfix) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    No, it's not.
    The game runs with the submod but has issues.
    Probably today (5-6 hours from now) I'll upload the new version

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.2.alpha (for DeI 1.2.2i) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [3 march 18]

    Here we are with 1.2.alpha.
    Updated for patch 19 and DeI 122i (hope to haven't messed anything).
    I've done only the TESTUDO core with economy/population/civilwar Medium packs inside, all the other files in the OP will mess up a little with patch 19 and they aren't updated to DeI 122i.


    > DOWNLOAD TESTUDO.1.2.alpha for DeI 1.2.2i - patch 19:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/nowj4u...2.alpha_M.pack
    (SHOULD BE SAVE COMPATIBLE)

    changelog 1.1 to 1.2.alpha:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    ECONOMY:
    - increased cultural PO malus

    BUILDINGS:
    - less PO and growth from medium/high values

    ADMINISTRATION:
    - decreased tax rate bonuses bonuses for gdp and growth bonuses
    - slightly decreased replenishment
    - + increased building conversion time (+25%)
    - -1 unit recruitment point overall

    DIPLOMACY:
    - slightly increased diplomacy difficulty

    POPULATION:
    - slightly decreased growth





    Here is the ongoing situation from my last roman campaign with TESTUDO 1.1

    turn 25
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    turn 50
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    turn 75
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    turn 100
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    turn 125
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    Last edited by Jake Armitage; March 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1.alpha (for DeI 1.2.2i - patch 19) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [10 march 18]

    Looking good @Jake
    I can't test it yet though since Patch 19 broke cheat engine and I really can't play without it.
    Also all of my graphic mods are dead.

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    Default Re: [SUBMOD] TESTUDO v.1.1.alpha (for DeI 1.2.2i - patch 19) + S/M/L economy/population/civilwar scripts + various stratmap movement range [10 march 18]

    "per aspera ad astra"

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