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    Default Tips for creating assets

    Hi, I am not very familiar with modding but have done some smaller experiences on a few games but nothing for this specific game thus far.
    I love this mod and would really appreciate to be able to help out if the help would be wanted. So my question is if there are any tips in to how to create my own assets that I could send to the people behind this mod?


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    Depends on what you're thinking about sending us?

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    Well I am quite educated in history so I am broadly familiar with most parts of medieval history (mainly Europe and Far East Asia). So I gladly help of what I can where you may not be focus as much.
    Or if you feel you are covered without any additional help I would gladly create (as I was kind off mentioned at the Ilkhanate Mongols thread) some Yuan and Song assets. Maybe start small and move up to bigger (tougher) things when I get a hang of the modding tool for this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinJ51 View Post
    Well I am quite educated in history so I am broadly familiar with most parts of medieval history (mainly Europe and Far East Asia). So I gladly help of what I can where you may not be focus as much.
    Or if you feel you are covered without any additional help I would gladly create (as I was kind off mentioned at the Ilkhanate Mongols thread) some Yuan and Song assets. Maybe start small and move up to bigger (tougher) things when I get a hang of the modding tool for this game.
    If you have any quality information on Central Asia, especially stuff like the Chagatai Khanate and any Turkic peoples I would love to take a look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontfearme22 View Post
    If you have any quality information on Central Asia, especially stuff like the Chagatai Khanate and any Turkic peoples I would love to take a look at it.
    Anything special about them like warfare tactics and armor etc. or do just want loads of information about them as a khanate in general?

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    If you have any information or sources describing English and French military organization from 13th to 15th century, those would help. We're mostly looking to break the popular trendy media that we see people drawing and painting about the Medieval ages, and open people's eyes to some of the more stranger and different looking things. Frescoes and paintings from the Medieval ages are more appreciated than illustrations from modern artists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slytacular View Post
    If you have any information or sources describing English and French military organization from 13th to 15th century, those would help. We're mostly looking to break the popular trendy media that we see people drawing and painting about the Medieval ages, and open people's eyes to some of the more stranger and different looking things. Frescoes and paintings from the Medieval ages are more appreciated than illustrations from modern artists.
    Well to keep it "short" I will not include links to some great books about this since that feels like some overkill, however before I start sharing my view on medival combat between France and England and share some links that is informative about certain aspects of such warfare (and some cool pictures) I just would like to add a link to a book on "only" 200 pages about the 100 years war.
    https://brego-weard.com/lib/ns/Essen...ars_39_War.pdf


    So during this time knights was all the roar in Europe by the time of the crusades France had soo many knights that they could not even afford them anymore. But dissolving the knights was unthinkable at this time so many historians believe this is one of the reasons so many french knights fought in the crusades. They actually dominated it through out its time and was the ones who had the most noble people and even kings ruling over the Kingdom of Jerusalem (haha even Richard Lionheart was french!) and allied kingdoms in the area.
    By the end the 13th century conflicts became far more frequent between England & France, even though some smaller wars and battles had taken place all through the 13th century as well, leading up to the 100 years war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...he_Middle_Ages

    As I said knights dominated wars at this time and is probably the biggest reasons battles was relatively much smaller, the feudal society required it to be so that the peasants took care of their crops while nobles ruled the land with the help of knights. At a time of war men-at-arms was called in, mostly professional soldiers and mercenaries and the town their local militia.
    Now the fun part with the wars between France and England is the fact they were actually a bit different. Yes England had their houses and Earldoms still as France had its big houses and local nobles who were very rich. The thing is that England was without doubt the most centralized kingdom in all of Europe at this time, meaning that although they sure did had powerful houses it was nothing in comparison to the powewithout rar struggle that was the French Kingdom! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France...les.2C_knights
    So without rambling too much about all of this, cause I could really get in to all of this, England was more efficient though smaller while France had the most powerful army in Europe they were poorly organized and major noble houses competed for the power of the crown all the time.

    So when wars did break out, especially during the 100 years war, England did not just only have smaller armies but did use more men-at-arms and professional soldiers than knights (keeping internal trouble away since few had claims of power and non seeked authority) while France had huge armies with rich knights and powerful nobles, whom all had their political motives and pushed each other to act (many times irrationally and with huge consequences).
    Now with the 100 years war a funny thing happened, as I just mentioned England used it centralized government in order to recruit men in to their army (most often just for 40 days) while France used itīs many knights, since before that major war battles was fought knights vs knights and nobles vs nobles. In such conditions relatively few ever died since nobles was often related to each other (England and France used to have very! close noble and royal ties ever since Normands conquered England in 1066 up until late 13th century). They rather took one as a prisoner and got a bit of coin for a ransom rather than killing their old pall from across the canal. Not to even begin talking about the whole "chivalry code" and all .....
    BUT when England started to use common people more frequently against France knights, they didn't hesitate to kill a knight or even noble. This really pissed other nobles off so in many battles the huge French armies would just charge right in to spears, pikes and arrows for few reasons more than a noble friend was actually killed in the previous charge. http://www.britishbattles.com/one-hu...ttle-of-crecy/

    Similar thing happened at the famous battle of Agincourt. However this lesson that the British learned french at those battles was one they themelves had experienced before at the battle of Bannockburn, the one that by the end of the 13th century even though a knight wears heavy armor and rides a horse they are very vulnerable to arrows and pikes without any proper support. http://www.britishbattles.com/scotti...f-bannockburn/
    Knight vs knight or if a correctly shock attack with heavy cavalry against ordinary infantry was pulled off it was devastating, something that the french carried out in perfection at the battle of Bouvines exactly a century before the battle of Bannockburn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bouvines#Battle
    In fact heavy knights in horse back was a great tool to change a battle in ones favor and in my opinion the notion that the longbow killed the heavy knights use is ridiculous. Heavy cavalry was devastating if used right up until the 18th century.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalr...y_using_lances
    What killed the knights wasnt a tool in war but the warfare itself, with ordinary men with less armor and money being capable of killing knight (and more importantly WILLING) the chivalry code died out and so did the use of knights (not the use of nobles though).

    Also I should mention that it is a HUGE myth that the longbow was some kind of super weapon that totally revamped military tactics, in fact it did no such thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uxHYQW2Nio
    Armor was just made even better by the time of the 15th century (which looks bloody beautiful https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...fdff3f5aac.jpg). In fact it was the gunpowder that changed military tactics and the use of armor, with small pistols that could go through most armor on a close distance and more & smaller (more mobile) artillery who was more often used tactical in battles tan before.
    Some additional information about medieval armor. https://knightsandarmor.com/


    Battles in this mentioned time (13th to 15th century) was a bit different depending on which century. Cavalry usually just faced off against each other while infantry fought on their own. By the time one side started to break the cavalry usually moved in and attacked the fleeing infantry. Almost always more soldiers died in the route than in the battle it self. http://www.medievalwarfare.info/#pitched
    Later (late 14th century) as shock attacks on concentrated/tightly packed infantry units became more devastating the heavily armored knights usually just dismounted instead and moved in on foot (mostly since their horse was probably going to get killed if they didnt).
    In my own opinion the bloody battle of Towton during the War of Roses in England speaks volumes of how a late medival battle was. Huge heavily armored armies fought each other for hours on end, trying to get inside the small cracks. gaps and crevices of their opponents armor in order to actually penetrate their bodies. Shields were useless and biggest two handed weapons were used, swords was used more often to beat someone to death rather than stabbing them as well as the use of maces etc. Cavalry had little to no effect to change the battle really, until they rode around o their enemies flank and dismounted to attack. At this battle I mentioned, it is recorded that knights who fled tossed off their own armor in order to get away quicker from the perusing enemies ... this leading many more of them dying by the enemy cavalry who now could actually cut them down. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Towton



    I have soo much more to talk about but right now I feel like I am just rambling about things unrelated to each other, so please ask me fore something specific and I will get back to you then. I gladly help with some balancing of the gameplay if it is just some tips or what ever.

    I would like to end this long post with two things, first to emphasize that sieges was probably the most important part of medival warfare. Not that it hadn't been important during other times in world history but at this time cannons wasnt still that great and they were for a long time very rare to see on the battlefield at all, but the castles and forts at this time was remarkably well done and strong.
    Many different creative ways were created in order to take cities and castles, from the classical but so important siege towers to the game changing trebuchet and the more strange ones like digging tunnels under the walls or creating big ramps of dirt/soil/earth instead if using ladders or siege towers in order to get over the wall.
    http://www.medieval-life-and-times.i...ge-warfare.htm

    Second to share a bunch of cool paintings from the time this was all relevant and portraying some of the things that I have mentioned in this post.


    http://www.medievalwarfare.info/pics/puy03.gif
    http://www.medievalwarfare.info/photos/antioche.jpg
    http://www.medievalwarfare.info/photos/assalto.jpg
    http://www.medievalwarfare.info/photos/rouen.jpg
    http://www.medievalwall.com/wp-conte...hilistines.jpg
    http://www.steel-mastery.com/images/...rg-style-1.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LO39Zjo0F_...ian%2B1400.jpg
    http://www.medieval-spell.com/Images...-Salisbury.jpg
    http://67.media.tumblr.com/1521d3602...ie7o3_1280.jpg
    http://www.medievalwarfare.info/pics...dearms/war.jpg
    http://www.medievalwarfare.info/pics...damietta02.jpg
    http://deremilitari.org/wp-content/u...-ken-welsh.jpg
    http://deremilitari.org/wp-content/u...38b68986c2.jpg
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...n_Death_02.jpg
    http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42...19/fffff-1.jpg

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