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    Default system log - missing data

    hi guys,

    i did a new installation because my m2tw crashes now and then if i scroll over region timbuktu. just checked my systemlog file and noticed alot of warnings regarding missing datas.

    is this kind of "normal" to have so many missing datas? guess not!? and what to do ?

    its vanilla v1.3 no mods installed.

    someone who has a clue please take a look at my system log - many thanks !
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    Default Re: system log - missing data

    1. Log entries with [warning] usually refer to redundant files\file extensions and can be ignored - it's entries with [error] that need resolving.
    2. Update to 1.5
    3. Run this tutorial from step 3 and delete the medieval ii total war directory in the virtual store if it exists
    4. Your error is map related, although I haven't come across it myself - hopefully the update will solve this










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    hi,

    well im not quite sure if its map related as i thought, looks like i get randomly a unspecified error message (somewhere between 40-100 round).

    i do not have to worry about the missing data? in other words: it has nothing to do with the unspecified error message, right? would be at least one thing i do not have to worry about..

    as far as i know 1.5 is only for kingdoms - i do not own kingdoms, just m2tw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonJoe View Post
    i do not have to worry about the missing data? in other words: it has nothing to do with the unspecified error message, right? would be at least one thing i do not have to worry about..
    Well, yes and no.

    If you notice a single or a few file missing, which keeps repeating, then you might have a problem which creates a memory overload (unspecified error)
    It might look something like this:

    [...]
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    [...] and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wettergren View Post
    Well, yes and no.

    If you notice a single or a few file missing, which keeps repeating, then you might have a problem which creates a memory overload (unspecified error)
    It might look something like this:

    [...]
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_symbols_80/normans.tga.dds is missing
    11:43:22.493 [system.io] [warning] open: data/menu/symbols/FE_faction_units/normans.tga.dds is missing
    [...] and so on.
    If you have loops like this (same files) then you might have a problem - there is the possibility that it might actually be a missing file. In most cases however it ends up that the file gets found:
    Code:
    08:46:15.786 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Bare_Geomod/data/text/climates.txt.strings.bin is missing
    08:46:15.787 [system.io] [trace] file open,,0EDCBCA0,,not found
    08:46:15.787 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/data_0.pack,data/descr_climates_lookup.txt,175
    08:46:15.787 [system.io] [info] open:   found data/descr_climates_lookup.txt (from: packs/data_0.pack)
    08:46:15.789 [system.io] [trace] pack close,,data/descr_climates_lookup.txt,,,-175
    08:46:15.789 [system.io] [trace] file open,,0EDED8F0,,not found
    08:46:15.789 [system.io] [warning] open: mods/Bare_Geomod/data/text/climates.txt is missing
    08:46:15.789 [system.io] [trace] file open,,0EDED3C8,,not found
    08:46:15.789 [system.io] [trace] pack open,packs/localized.pack,data/text/climates.txt.strings.bin,920
    08:46:15.789 [system.io] [info] open:   found data/text/climates.txt.strings.bin (from: packs/localized.pack)
    You will however only get these found messages when you run the log in trace mode - the OP's log was run in the less detailed error mode.


    Quote Originally Posted by DonJoe View Post
    hi,

    well im not quite sure if its map related as i thought, looks like i get randomly a unspecified error message (somewhere between 40-100 round).

    i do not have to worry about the missing data? in other words: it has nothing to do with the unspecified error message, right? would be at least one thing i do not have to worry about..

    as far as i know 1.5 is only for kingdoms - i do not own kingdoms, just m2tw.
    If you have a valid installation code then this tutorial may interest you. The kingdoms DLC comes for free with it.
    Last edited by Gigantus; January 01, 2017 at 05:15 AM.










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    ok i get it. its not important and kinda normal to have missing datas (which will be found sooner or later) as long as it doesnt repeat the same file.

    i do have a valid installation code. its a 2nd hand dvd but its original. i did use a no cd fixed.exe though, but after my new installation and deleting all files in hidden folders such as virtual store i used the dvd again - no change, same error occure.

    frankly said, im no fan of steam but im willing to buy kingdoms, a 10 year old game only cost 5$ or something. not sure if it will solve my problem..? i mean, other play m2tw without kingdom and have no problems. the main reason i would buy kingdoms

    is not to play kingdoms, but i heard the units in m2tw are more balanced (fixed 2hander bug) aswell due to the v1.5. so if i can play the original m2tw campaign with more balanced units i would buy kingdoms, else its not worth it...

    funny, before it worked well all the time. all that started to happen as i unpacked a single file (descr buildings) - never touch a working system eh. like i said, i thought i deleted all files before i reinstalled.

    im gonna reinstall again and try your suggestion "run the tutorial from step 3.." for now. just curious if the units in the main campaign of m2tw are aswell more balanced as in kingdoms if you install v1.5 ?

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    Default Re: system log - missing data

    You are fairly limited when it comes to mods that you can play with the basic version of the game. You can actually install the Steam version (with kingdoms) independently from your disk version if you want to give it a try first.
    The game is a bit more balanced in the kingdoms version (unit recruiting) plus it also brings back the boiling oil at the gates.

    For the time being try out one of the mods for the basic version - chances are fairly good that you may not come across your bug again with them.










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    I'm posting this here as it seems similar in nature, although mine would seem to be more of a "Steam" or a "Windows 10" issue. Here goes now:

    I can't say for certain how long this issue has been in place; as the game seems to run okay (for the most part). However, I just started "Modding" and in the process of doing so I have been paying closer attention to whether a System Log gets generated (or not)...
    So, now that I've been paying said attention, even a "Fresh Install" of the game seems to consistently generate the same (or similar) System Log(s). That log was starting with:
    "[data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for ANISELECT
    [data.missing] [warning] missing/invalid cursor for MODIFIER_SABOTAGE"...
    It's a full page of stuff; mostly about things missing"
    I was able to fix the issue with the "Default Campaign" by adding "features.default_campaign" (without the quotes) to the "medieval2.preference" cfg file and saving it as "Main.cfg" (so it doesn't get over written) and adding "@Main.cfg" (again without the quotes) to the end of the command line in my desktop shortcut; and that appears to have solved the problem for the Default game. However, running any of the kingdoms mods still generates a System Log; and now:
    " [system.io] [warning] open: mods/americas/data/text/shortcut.txt is missing
    [system.io] [warning] open: mods/americas/preferences/keys.dat is missing
    [system.io] [warning] open: mods/americas/preferences/keys.dat is missing"
    is showing up prior to the "invalid cursor" warnings.
    Again, this is after a Fresh Install of the game to an empty directory. All my personal mods were moved to a new location.
    I don't know what else I can tell you. Nor have I found a solution to this issue and I have been searching for about 3 or 4 days now.
    So, please help; as modding when there are already errors in place simply not doable.
    SK.
    Oh, I do need to add that the "@Main.cfg" seems to have disappeared from my desktop shortcut; but the default campaign still loads without generating an error log.
    Which just makes things more confusing.

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    Rule of thumb: [warning] in nearly all cases relates to files either not present in the mod set up and later found - or to outdated files and file formats (the game engine retains code from RTW). When you get [error] then you know something might need to be fixed. You can get false positives, eg trait stuff related to the invalid use of 'anti trait' so if you have a problem locating the source of the issue then post again her ein the forum and provide a compressed trace log - see the [log] setting in Bare Geomod's CFG file how trace setting works.

    CFG file: if you are talking about the default medieval2.preference.cfg file then I am afraid to say that editing or renaming is futile - any editing will be removed at the next game start and renaming will result in a new file with default settings to be created.

    Tip: avoid a large number of modding pitfalls by using my mod set up to try out stuff. You shouldn't be modifying in the main game's data folder anyhow. Have a look at this tutorial of mine as well if you haven't unpacked the game yet, you may need additional files for your trials and that will provide a disposable back up.










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    Thanks.

    I have been learning a lot and discovered that the "missing/invalid cursor" originates due to the "cursor_definition.xml" file; as rather than assigning the "arrow.cur" cursor directly to the items listed above (and others)--they chose to let them default there instead. I can see both the pros and cons to doing it that way; but I find it a bit annoying.

    I have unpacked the game in a totally separate directory and, other than making text files from the bin files, I won't be modifying any of those files. They're there solely as a backup (and to be copied to my mod as needed).

    So, again, thank you. You have been very helpful; as I have read many of your various posts and they have all been extremely useful.

    SK

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    i just came to say thank you to this community (especially to gigantus)

    the tutorial from step 3 on really fixed my problem - no more unspecified error messages.

    thanks !

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