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    This latest attack takes the form of the Anti-Semitism Awareness Bill, which was passed by the Senate on Thursday.




    S. 10

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    December 2, 2016
    Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    AN ACT
    To provide for the consideration of a definition of anti-Semitism for the enforcement of Federal antidiscrimination laws concerning education programs or activities. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
    SECTION 1. Short title.
    This Act may be cited as the “Anti-Semitism Awareness Act of 2016”.
    SEC. 2. Findings.
    Congress makes the following findings:

    (1) Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (referred to in the section as “title VI”) is one of the principal antidiscrimination statutes enforced by the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights.
    (2) Title VI prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin.
    (3) Both the Department of Justice and the Department of Education have properly concluded that title VI prohibits discrimination against Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, and members of other religious groups when the discrimination is based on the group’s actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics or when the discrimination is based on actual or perceived citizenship or residence in a country whose residents share a dominant religion or a distinct religious identity.
    (4) A September 8, 2010 letter from Assistant Attorney General Thomas E. Perez to Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights Russlynn H. Ali stated that “[a]lthough Title VI does not prohibit discrimination on the basis of religion, discrimination against Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, and members of other groups violates Title VI when that discrimination is based on the group’s actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics”.
    (5) To assist State and local educational agencies and schools in their efforts to comply with Federal law, the Department of Education periodically issues Dear Colleague letters. On a number of occasions, these letters set forth the Department of Education’s interpretation of the statutory and regulatory obligations of schools under title VI.
    (6) On September 13, 2004, the Department of Education issued a Dear Colleague letter regarding the obligations of schools (including colleges) under title VI to address incidents involving religious discrimination. The 2004 letter specifically notes that “since the attacks of September 11, 2001, OCR has received complaints of race or national origin harassment commingled with aspects of religious discrimination against Arab Muslim, Sikh, and Jewish students.”.
    (7) An October 26, 2010 Dear Colleague letter issued by the Department of Education stated, “While Title VI does not cover discrimination based solely on religion, groups that face discrimination on the basis of actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics may not be denied protection under Title VI on the ground that they also share a common faith. These principles apply not just to Jewish students, but also to students from any discrete religious group that shares, or is perceived to share, ancestry or ethnic characteristics (e.g., Muslims or Sikhs).”.
    (8) Anti-Semitism remains a persistent, disturbing problem in elementary and secondary schools and on college campuses.
    (9) Jewish students are being threatened, harassed, or intimidated in their schools (including on their campuses) on the basis of their shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics including through harassing conduct that creates a hostile environment so severe, pervasive, or persistent so as to interfere with or limit some students’ ability to participate in or benefit from the services, activities, or opportunities offered by schools.
    (10) The 2010 Dear Colleague letter cautioned schools that they “must take prompt and effective steps reasonably calculated to end the harassment, eliminate any hostile environment, and its effects, and prevent the harassment from recurring,” but did not provide guidance on current manifestation of anti-Semitism, including discriminatory anti-Semitic conduct that is couched as anti-Israel or anti-Zionist.
    (11) The definition and examples referred to in paragraphs (1) and (2) of section 3 have been valuable tools to help identify contemporary manifestations of anti-Semitism, and include useful examples of discriminatory anti-Israel conduct that crosses the line into anti-Semitism.
    (12) Awareness of this definition of anti-Semitism will increase understanding of the parameters of contemporary anti-Jewish conduct and will assist the Department of Education in determining whether an investigation of anti-Semitism under title VI is warranted.SEC. 3. Definitions.
    For purposes of this Act, the term “definition of anti-Semitism”—

    (1) includes the definition of anti-Semitism set forth by the Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism of the Department of State in the Fact Sheet issued on June 8, 2010, as adapted from the Working Definition of Anti-Semitism of the European Monitoring Center on Racism and Xenophobia (now known as the European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights); and
    (2) includes the examples set forth under the headings “Contemporary Examples of Anti-Semitism” and “What is Anti-Semitism Relative to Israel?” of the Fact Sheet.SEC. 4. Rule of construction for title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
    In reviewing, investigating, or deciding whether there has been a violation of title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000d et seq.) on the basis of race, color, or national origin, based on an individual's actual or perceived shared Jewish ancestry or Jewish ethnic characteristics, the Department of Education shall take into consideration the definition of anti-Semitism as part of the Department's assessment of whether the alleged practice was motivated by anti-Semitic intent.
    SEC. 5. Constitutional protections.
    Nothing in this Act, or an amendment made by this Act, shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
    Passed the Senate December 1, 2016.




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    https://theintercept.com/2016/12/02/...ticize-israel/

    (lol at at the superfluous jab at Trump, the media is a parody of itself)

    Basically, the bill allows the Dept of Education to use a cartoonishly European and easily exploited definition of anti-semitism when investigating schools. According to Senator Casey who introduced the bill, examples of such "anti-semitism" include:

    • Calling for, aiding or justifying the killing or harming of Jews
    • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust
    • Demonizing Israel by blaming it for all interreligious or political tensions
    • Judge Israel by a double standard that one would not apply to any other democratic nation


    All of these (except maybe the first one) are gross infringements on our 1st Amendment rights. Jews might not like it, but being able to say these things is what makes us America. Thus, they are using their massive and insidious influence eat away at our freedoms. It seems like a minor thing, just allowing various governement agencies to use the same (exploitable) definition of something, but this is how the game is played. tbh muslims need to learn a thing or two. This is a much more effective method for destroying Amerca than rioting and blowing up over cartoons.

    here are some good jews in opposition of the bills passage:
    https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/inst...s-free-speech/
    Last edited by Abdülmecid I; December 04, 2016 at 04:06 PM. Reason: Disruptive and insulting material deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduet View Post
    This latest attack takes the form of the Anti-Semitism Awareness Bill, which was passed by the Senate on Thursday.

    https://theintercept.com/2016/12/02/...ticize-israel/

    (lol at at the superfluous jab at Trump, the (((media))) is a parody of itself)

    Basically, the bill allows the Dept of Education to use a cartoonishly European and easily exploited definition of anti-semitism when investigating schools. According to Senator Casey who introduced the bill, examples of such "anti-semitism" include:

    • Calling for, aiding or justifying the killing or harming of Jews
    • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust
    • Demonizing Israel by blaming it for all interreligious or political tensions
    • Judge Israel by a double standard that one would not apply to any other democratic nation


    All of these (except maybe the first one) are gross infringements on our 1st Amendment rights. Jews might not like it, but being able to say these things is what makes us America. Thus, they are using their massive and insidious influence eat away at our freedoms. It seems like a minor thing, just allowing various governement agencies to use the same (exploitable) definition of something, but this is how (((they))) play the game. tbh muslims need to learn a thing or two. This is a much more effective method for destroying Amerca than rioting and blowing up over cartoons.

    here are some good jews in opposition of the bills passage:
    https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/inst...s-free-speech/
    The Jab at Trump is hilarious and typical but anything that is actually anti-free speech will be shot down. Idiots will be still able to wave their terrorist supporting flags at supposed anti-war rallies.
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    "Anti-Semitism" (which is a euphemism for Jew-hatred), is a huge problem in Western universities. It is almost mainstream to hate Jews and Israel there. They literally have weeks with themes about opposing Israel. A lot of universities have Islamic and other groups, many funded by terrorist organizations such as the Muslim Brotherhood, constantly agitating against Israel and Jews, and making an effort to divide us and weaken the alliance. That type of filth has no place in America, to be honest.



    The article doesn't describe what this bill does, but since it involves the government, I'm naturally suspicious. That said, who wants to bet that Trump supports the bill? :-)
    Last edited by Garbarsardar; December 04, 2016 at 06:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Legend View Post
    "Anti-Semitism" (which is a euphemism for Jew-hatred), is a huge problem in Western universities. It is almost mainstream to hate Jews and Israel there.
    No, it's something you consider a huge problem and the vast majority doesn't consider it a huge problem. It's almost mainstream to not hate Jews and Israel, but voice a little concern that perhaps, just perhaps, firebombing civilians and stealing land is not the best practice. That is not hate for Israel, that's being less-than-completely-biased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    No, it's something you consider a huge problem and the vast majority doesn't consider it a huge problem. It's almost mainstream to not hate Jews and Israel, but voice a little concern that perhaps, just perhaps, firebombing civilians and stealing land is not the best practice. That is not hate for Israel, that's being less-than-completely-biased.
    Oh, come on. Those small barren rocks the Orthodox settlers are takeing over are such a melevolent crime against Isreal's surroundings (which would have a heyday if the Jews all died). Ridiculous. You're completely mesmerized by Arab whining. Israel, including the Orthodox settlers, is NOT the problem in the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    No, it's something you consider a huge problem and the vast majority doesn't consider it a huge problem.
    Are you serious? Hillel Houses on US campuses have to have secure entries and armed guards and have to hire tons of extra security just to show a film from Israel as benign as this one (about a Bedouin kid actually). Obviously such a film warranted literally holding megaphones up to little Jewish college girls heads and screaming "Why do you love genocide so much?!"

    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    It's almost mainstream to not hate Jews and Israel
    That's true, except for among a loud and aggressive minority on campuses.

    EDIT:

    The Amcha Initiative, a nonpartisan group focused on investigating and combating anti-Semitism on college campuses, is out with a new report. The news is horrifying: “The study, which examined anti-Semitic activity from January – June 2016 on more than 100 public and private colleges and universities with the largest Jewish undergraduate populations, found that 287 anti-Semitic incidents occurred at 64 schools during that time period, reflecting a 45% increase from the 198 incidents reported in the first six months of 2015.”

    Moreover, the study finds, as it did in 2015:

    [A]nti-Semitism was twice as likely to occur on campuses where BDS [boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign] was present, eight times more likely to occur on campuses with at least one active anti-Zionist student group such as SJP [Students for Justice in Palestine], and six times more likely to occur on campuses with one or more faculty boycotters. In fact, schools with more faculty boycotters and more BDS activity tended to have more incidents of anti-Semitic activity.

    This is not merely a robust debate about Israel, but shows ongoing efforts to delegitimize the Jewish State and intimidate American Jewish students, which belies the myth that anti-Israel efforts aren’t anti-Semitic. They are, as the evidence shows. Incidents of targeting Jewish students (defined as “incidents involving conduct that targeted Jewish students for particular harm based on their Jewishness or perceived association with Israel”) were up 64 percent from 2015.

    The report goes on to explain:

    “Anti-normalization” is a known tactic employed by those promoting BDS on campus. Its goal is to stifle all pro-Israel expression. Adherents of “anti-normalization” target not only pro-Israel students, but anyone presumed to support Israel, first and foremost Jewish students, regardless of their actual personal feelings on Israel. As a result, Jewish students engaging in Jewish activity having nothing to do with Israel — wearing their Jewish sorority or fraternity letters, displaying Star of David necklaces, walking to Hillel for Sabbath dinner — report fearing for their safety and wellbeing. In addition, because of their support, or even just presumed support, for Israel, Jewish students report being rejected from progressive social justice activities such as pro-choice rallies, anti-rape demonstrations, Black Lives Matter events and racial justice conferences.

    In addition to ostracizing and alienating Jewish students from certain areas of campus life, anti-Zionist students repeatedly attempt to shutdown events organized by Jewish students and suppress their free speech about Israel and other topics. Sadly, because of strong emotions on Israel, Jewish students are being targeted, discriminated against and ostracized, and their civil rights are being egregiously violated.

    Mind you, all this occurs as college campuses are going to excruciating lengths to restrict “offensive” speech and set up “safe zones.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.fd2582917914
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    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by swabian View Post
    Oh, come on. Those small barren rocks the Orthodox settlers are takeing over are such a melevolent crime against Isreal's surroundings (which would have a heyday if the Jews all died). Ridiculous.
    Excuse me, but a government strong-arming the weak and taking their quite fertile land by force is indeed a malevolent crime despite how good\evil the neighbors may be. And then, we have gaza and the incidents of white phosphorus and the usually quite harsh retaliation of Israel state to enemies that kill its people.

    You may not consider them as terrible as what the neighbors are doing, but they are valid points of concern, they are valid points of criticism and they are not anti-Semitism. They are the product of people finding such practices... evil.


    Quote Originally Posted by sumskilz View Post
    Are you serious? Hillel Houses on US campuses have to have secure entries and armed guards and have to hire tons of extra security just to show a film from Israel as benign as this one (about a Bedouin kid actually). Obviously such a film warranted literally holding megaphones up to little Jewish college girls heads and screaming "Why do you love genocide so much?!"

    That's true, except for among a loud and aggressive minority on campuses.

    EDIT:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.fd2582917914
    Yeah, yeah, BUT: As I said a few incidents don't make it a huge problem. Mass murder in campuses is also NOT a huge problem. It occurs rarely.
    Jews are 10% in USA or so. They're rich.
    They have nothing to be afraid of by the 0.9% Muslims, many of them too poor to go to universities.

    Yes, anti-Semitism is a problem in USA, 64 Unis and 300 incidents are not negligible.
    But anti-Semitism is IMO far less present, hence a smaller problem than islamophobia or xenophobia. Not a huge problem. 64 Unis? 300 incidents? Come on, anti-black and anti-white incidents were probably x10 that in the same year.
    I actually doubt USA has any huge problems to be sincere... Perhaps obesity. But still not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Jews are 10% in USA or so. They're rich.
    About 2% (approximately 6 million Jews in US).


    Yes, anti-Semitism is a problem in USA, 64 Unis and 300 incidents are not negligible.
    But anti-Semitism is IMO far less present, hence a smaller problem than islamophobia
    Hate crimes motivated by religious bias accounted for 1,354 offenses reported by law enforcement. A breakdown of the bias motivation of religious-biased offenses showed:
    ◾51.3 percent were anti-Jewish.
    ◾22.2 percent were anti-Islamic (Muslim).
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2015/...offenses_final

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Yes, anti-Semitism is a problem in USA, 64 Unis and 300 incidents are not negligible.
    But anti-Semitism is IMO far less present, hence a smaller problem than islamophobia or xenophobia.
    If the media is any indication, it does seem the demand for various types of bigotry exceeds the supply in the US, but as to the proportionality of your concerns, see the statistics just posted by Infidel144.

    Although I must admit that when Naveed Afzal Haq shot six women at a Jewish community center in my hometown, few people were surprised to discover the perpetrator was a Muslim, which was a clear example of Islamophobia. Even worse, when Haq shouted “I’m a Muslim-American and I’m angry about Israel”, some of the women were so Islamophobic they ran. I don’t know if the pregnant woman he shot was less Islamophobic or just slower due to her condition.
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Legend View Post
    "Anti-Semitism" (which is a euphemism for Jew-hatred)
    Generally true maybe, but it should be noted that it can be complicated. There is such people as semites of whom Jews are only one among others, there is such ideology as semitism (or pro-semitism) which might include support for Nation of Israel. And far more.
    As semites are not all Jews, anti-semitism is not exactly Jew hatred, even if often it is.

    Also, being against state of Israel or any other nation has nothing to do with racism any more than being against USA or Trump.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRomanRuler View Post
    As semites are not all Jews, anti-semitism is not exactly Jew hatred, even if often it is.
    Yes we all understand the etymology, but that has nothing to do with how the term is always used or with its history. Check the pile a references if you don't trust the Wiki article:

    The root word Semite gives the false impression that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic people. However, the compound word antisemite was popularized in Germany in 1879[6] as a scientific-sounding term for Judenhass "Jew-hatred",[7][8][9][10][11] and that has been its common use since then.[12][13]
    Hence it is a euphemism exactly as the doctor said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    I added the Act in the first post-Garb.
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    I don't understand, isn't singling Jews or the state of Israel against the constitution? How can speaking against Jews is a crime while speaking against Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc. is not a crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odenat View Post
    I don't understand, isn't singling Jews or the state of Israel against the constitution? How can speaking against Jews is a crime while speaking against Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc. is not a crime?
    The superpower of the congress is that it can make anything a crime until someone has the balls to bring it before the courts to say it violates a higher form of law like the constitution. Some things are just politically good to pass. This thing passed by unanimous consent.
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    Everybody wants to be a victim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odenat View Post
    I don't understand, isn't singling Jews or the state of Israel against the constitution? How can speaking against Jews is a crime while speaking against Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists etc. is not a crime?
    Hey, take a look at this part:

    These principles apply not just to Jewish students, but also to students from any discrete religious group that shares, or is perceived to share, ancestry or ethnic characteristics (e.g., Muslims or Sikhs).
    Near as I can tell this act was a pointless exercise from a legal standpoint. I do find it amusing that a pet issue of "progressives" seems to be under attack here via one of their favorite "progressive" tactics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    remains to be seen how it is used.

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    Title edited for clarity. Also it is rather early for an off topic tangent, so please try to discuss the bill.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this bill infringes on the right to free speech, does it? We're talking about what goes in and what is left out of the classroom and the curriculum for teaching students. A lot of sensitive topics are left out of the classroom; I'd argue that they shouldn't, but that's just my opinion. In either case, you can still (hypothetically) stand on a street corner a few blocks away from the school and shout at people through a megaphone about how everyone should be suspicious of the money-hoarding Jews. See? Free speech still exists. Just not in the classroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roma_Victrix View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this bill infringes on the right to free speech, does it? We're talking about what goes in and what is left out of the classroom and the curriculum for teaching students. A lot of sensitive topics are left out of the classroom; I'd argue that they shouldn't, but that's just my opinion. In either case, you can still (hypothetically) stand on a street corner a few blocks away from the school and shout at people through a megaphone about how everyone should be suspicious of the money-hoarding Jews. See? Free speech still exists. Just not in the classroom.
    Public schools are government institutions. Things can get iffy depending on how laws are enforced.
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    Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
    Would the OP care to explain how the Senate has committed treason, given the Constitutional definition?
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