Sweden's largest union now has a "mansplaining" complaint hotline.

[Phier]

Stuff like this you can't make up, so lets verify, this can't be real...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sw...-a7418491.html

So google?


http://www.thelocal.se/20161114/mans...exism-backlash

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world...line-1.2869032

https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-swedi...150918269.html

Ok then...

And this is my favorite comment from the first article....

"Good initiative. Judging by the comments, it seems quite a lot of men feel this is aimed at them, so it shows how much this kind of work is needed."

So because men feel a hotline to complain about mansplaining is aimed at them, its obviously needed?

I realize perhaps Sweden is a low hanging fruit in the insanity of SJ but are people really blind to not only how this creates a more hostile work environment but also adds more to fuel the idea that women don't belong in the workplace? If I as a man, were to correct a female employee, I am now subject to explaining myself to the union that I wasn't "mansplaining"?

I'd love to hear how this helps, because this sort of thinking is in part why my next president has a glorious Tang glow.

[DaniCatBurger]

I guess it can be annoying when people want to explain you something and you haven't asked for an explanation because the person who tries to provide you with unasked explanations can't know possibly whether she/he has the same questions regarding something as you have. The problem in general with explanations is that to understand something you need to be able to explain it to yourself and you need to be aware of the questions.

So, "mansplanning" might be a help to people which already believe to have good explanations to find out that it is eventually better to have questions than explanations. I am not sure if a having not yet found out what the right question is, is gender bound. They might call it better "the Sokrates helpline" or similar therefore. I guess the urge to find out what the good questions are motivates men and women equally. Good topic. Thx

[Prodromos]

The funniest part is the woman in the picture in the article is Muslim. Oh Sweden. (EDIT: seems to be a stock photo)

BTW what if a guy calls the hotline? If he is refused help, will he be able to report them for assuming his gender?

[DaniCatBurger]

Questions are better than answers because answers indicate possible contradictions.

[Humble Warrior]

You know what? I`m happy. I`m happy because I`ve realised that this feminist\sjw nonsense will eventually destroy itself like a serpent eating its own tail. Logic and reality dictates it must happen. These people can`t see what they`re doing... and it`s happening as we speak. Hopefully, no innocent people will be hurt while it kills itself.

[Copperknickers II]

The funniest part is the woman in the picture in the article is Muslim. Oh Sweden. (EDIT: seems to be a stock photo)

The Independent is a British newspaper, not a Swedish one. And to be fair, I used to think that the insertion of 'ethnic' faces in the media was some kind of bizarre attempt at left wing propaganda, until I moved to London, and realised that if anything, the majority of models in large European capital cities are likely to be minority ethnic, simply for demographic reasons: they make up the majority of the young people in inner city areas where digital marketing and media agencies have their offices, so it's just a matter of convenience. Well, not always, but much of the time.

[Prodromos]

The Independent is a British newspaper, not a Swedish one. And to be fair, I used to think that the insertion of 'ethnic' faces in the media was some kind of bizarre attempt at left wing propaganda, until I moved to London, and realised that if anything, the majority of models in large European capital cities are likely to be minority ethnic, simply for demographic reasons: they make up the majority of the young people in inner city areas where digital marketing and media agencies have their offices, so it's just a matter of convenience. Well, not always, but much of the time.

"Ethnic representation" always annoys me in ads and catalogues, but I'm no expert in marketing, so maybe it works and isn't entirely a SJW thing. Personally I'd be insulted if my "group" (gender, ethnicity, etc.) was included in an ad, solely to attract me.

What I found funny in this case is that Islam is a far, far bigger threat to women's rights, than a regular atheist or Christian dude "mansplaining" to his coworkers.

[Copperknickers II]

"Ethnic representation" always annoys me in ads and catalogues, but I'm no expert in marketing, so maybe it works and isn't entirely a SJW thing. Personally I'd be insulted if my "group" (gender, ethnicity, etc.) was included in an ad, solely to attract me.

What I found funny in this case is that Islam is a far, far bigger threat to women's rights, than a regular atheist or Christian dude "mansplaining" to his coworkers.

Well, to Muslim women's rights. But Muslim women have the right to be exempt from women's rights, and trying to instill Western values of women's rights onto Muslim women is in itself a violation of their rights, as women. Or something like that. Basically, women have rights, unless they don't want rights, in which case they must not be given rights under any circumstances, at risk of violating their rights. I hope I've made it crystal clear.

Anyhow, the aim is often not even to attract people of a specific race, it's simply because modelling agencies recruit from the area around their offices and that area in the UK is usually inner city London. Often, you'll see ethnic minority models in nationwide advertising, simply because nationwide advertising campaigns are run from a London-based head office and that office will naturally attract ethnic minorities.

[Prodromos]

Well, to Muslim women's rights. But Muslim women have the right to be exempt from women's rights, and trying to instill Western values of women's rights onto Muslim women is in itself a violation of their rights, as women. Or something like that. Basically, women have rights, unless they don't want rights, in which case they must not be given rights under any circumstances, at risk of violating their rights. I hope I've made it crystal clear.

Anyhow, the aim is often not even to attract people of a specific race, it's simply because modelling agencies recruit from the area around their offices and that area in the UK is usually inner city London. Often, you'll see ethnic minority models in nationwide advertising, simply because nationwide advertising campaigns are run from a London-based head office and that office will naturally attract ethnic minorities.

Makes sense.

[sleepyx732]

Between this and that other thread equating bullying to mass murder, the world really has gone mad hasn't it?

[Himster]

Between this and that other thread equating bullying to mass murder, the world really has gone mad hasn't it?

The whole Social "justice" thing is over now, it's dead after five years of tyranny. This newest nonsense is obviously just the death rattle.

[swabian]

Ok then...

At least you can still laugh about stuff like that. I only feel tired and increasingly disgusted about those "progresses".

[nein]

Sweden always has its eye on the ball, a Russian invasion would do them the world of good.

[Surgeon]

I clicked on the thread seriously thinking that the hotline was for men to call and mansplain stuff to the phone operator.

Can't be the only one either. Sounds like something they'd come up with anyway.

[Gäiten]

The News about the *Gender plowing* in Sweden are very amusing either.

http://capx.co/the-slippery-combinat...-snow-ploughs/

http://www.aftonbladet.se/ledare/led...cle23889514.ab

The patients have taken control of the nut house ...

[IrishBlood]

I'm all for feminism and equality and such, but this is just getting silly

[DaniCatBurger]

I am certain women will not allow men to make their rights smaller but what people do should be judged according its quality and sometimes the difference in quality is hidden in a badly formulated and later even disproved but still strongly innovative and productive idea. Legal equality is more than the proponents for an individual target of equality or a distinct mannerism of a proponent. There are rational and pragmatic reasons for legal equality.

[Gäiten]

IMHO, the problem what all those equality campaigns have, is that they will never say "We did it, equality has been done". They will continue.
They will continue for more and more privileges and because they will so save their Jobs, income, influence and power.

[DaniCatBurger]

I think that is where Himster's point gets true because if contradictions get too obvious individual assessments lose affirmative energy or credibility. However, the contradictions occur not in the emancipation or in the proponents (the question is not so interesting at least) but above all, in how claims and in regard to what they are believed to be justified and that means how they are explained. Who would want to associate with not serious arguments? It would not make sense to associate with irrational assumptions and proposals of limited explanatory force.

[Tiberios]

This is really silly and sad, but I'm not at all surprised that this is happening in Sweden. I would laugh at it, if it wasn't for the fact that the feminist movement in Denmark will soon be inspired by their Swedish sisters.