The mass murder of minorities by Republicans has already begun

[Enros]

I recently read a conservative opinion piece which claimed that conservatives are victims of oppression by social justice activists. Here's what the author had to say about the election of Donald Trump:

It's about vengeance for social oppression
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It mocked the members of this group mercilessly. It punished them for not being woke enough. It called them racists. It said their video games were sexist. It deployed Lena Dunham to tell them how horrible they were.
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You probably think it's not a big deal and these people need to get over themselves. Who's the delicate snowflake now, huh?

He claims that people whose feelings are hurt by being called racist or a homophobic are just as much victims as those whose feelings are hurt by racism or sexism. This is totally false.

No death has ever been caused by calling someone racist or homophobic. Meanwhile, science has conclusive linked ethnic slurs to higher immigrant suicide rates. Over 6,000 gays commit suicide each year due to hate speech. Among transsexuals, hateful words people say are the leading cause of death. Recently a Muslim US Marine recruit killed himself after racist abuse from 20 of his colleagues and instructors.

This is why hateful speech against gays, muslims, women and other groups ought to be criminalized. The "who decides for you what is hate speech?" question is easily answered. Speech should be banned only if it is scientifically proven to harm people. Bigoted speech against minorities is proven to kill people and those who participate in that must be charged with murder.

In the days since Trump's election, calls to gay suicide hotlines have multiplied by more than four. Conservatives are carrying out genocide, they are just using words instead of poison gas. Perhaps now you can understand why a CNN journalist mockingly commented "poor white people" when a Trump supporter was the victim of an aggravated assault.

[HannibalExMachina]

ok, i absolutely agree that the republican stance on hate speech is nonsense, but can we step back from devaluating the meaning of genocide? because thats what you are doing by blowing things out of proportion like this. this is genocide:

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there are already plenty of genocide deniers, we dont need to give them ammuniton to discredit the very concept of it.

[Gallus]

ok, i absolutely agree that the republican stance on hate speech is nonsense, but can we step back from devaluating the meaning of genocide? because thats what you are doing by blowing things out of proportion like this. this is genocide:

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there are already plenty of genocide deniers, we dont need to give them ammuniton to discredit the very concept of it.

Great post. Screaming genocide and fascism at everything ultimately makes these words lose all meaning. And when a situation comes when the use of those words will be justified no one will take them seriously.

[Humble Warrior]

Great post. Screaming genocide and fascism at everything ultimately makes these words lose all meaning. And when a situation comes when the use of those words will be justified no one will take them seriously.

And this is what the sjws have been doing again and again and again to the point that real racism, real sexism, real homophobia means nothing at all, and when it does, nobody cares any more.

A little life lesson for you sjws...

If someone calls you a `queer` because you`re gay, don`t worry about it. Laugh it off.

If someone says you`re an emotional woman for crying or can`t do something because of feels: Don`t worry about it. Accept what you are.

If someone says you`re as black as the ace of spades when you walk into a predominantly white area, laugh it off. Guess what, you are pretty dark. At least I am.

These things are light and come from people having a joke or just letting off steam. It`s going to happen. It`s going to ALWAYS happen. It`s human nature. You can`t stop it.

When the chips are down, they`ll pull you out of lake if you`re drowning or call an ambulance if you get run over. Or even stand and fight for you back to back when the real fascists attack you.

What matters is how they treat you when it REALLY matters.

Grow a bloody pair.

[Garbarsardar]

A little life lesson for you sjws...

If someone calls you a `queer` because you`re gay, don`t worry about it. Laugh it off.

If someone says you`re an emotional woman for crying or can`t do something because of feels: Don`t worry about it. Accept what you are.

If someone says you`re as black as the ace of spades when you walk into a predominantly white area, laugh it off. Guess what, you are pretty dark. At least I am.

These things are light and come from people having a joke or just letting off steam. It`s going to happen. It`s going to ALWAYS happen. It`s human nature. You can`t stop it.

When the chips are down, they`ll pull you out of lake if you`re drowning or call an ambulance if you get run over. Or even stand and fight for you back to back when the real fascists attack you.

What matters is how they treat you when it REALLY matters.

Grow a bloody pair.

Very true. Let me amplify:

If someone calls you a `queer` because you`re gay, don`t worry about it. Laugh it off. If they tie you to a fence post and torture you, keep laughing and should they nail-bomb you keep your spirits up. And if they drown you, keep swimming, it's good for you.

If someone says you`re an emotional woman for crying or can`t do something because of feels: Don`t worry about it. They have no idea what they are talking about and the closest they have been to a scientific paper about gender and emotionality is when they clicked on this link.

If someone says you`re as black as the ace of spades when you walk into a predominantly white area, laugh it off. Why should you be walking in predominantly white areas anyway? Keep to your black areas.

These things are light and come from people having a joke or just letting off steam. Of course it may be a little bit annoying when the joke is on you, again and again and again, but hey, some people are just unlucky. It`s going to happen. It`s going to ALWAYS happen to have some racist scum around. It`s human nature to be bigoted. You can`t stop it. As you could not stop serfdom, feudalism, slavery, human sacrifice, bloodletting by leeches, eating dung for dinner and cavorting druids. Face it, we are basically primitive.

When the chips are down, they`ll pull you out of lake if you`re drowning or call an ambulance if you get run over. They will not let you drown in the lake, man, that's the lesson you should remember. Except if you're gay (see above). Then, well, swim.

What matters is how they treat you when it REALLY matters. And you don't decide when it really matters, you faggot.

Grow a bloody pair of testicles; because that's what real people use in order to think, not the useless weight inside your skull.

[Humble Warrior]

Very true. Let me amplify:

If someone calls you a `queer` because you`re gay, don`t worry about it. Laugh it off. If they tie you to a fence post and torture you, keep laughing and should they nail-bomb you keep your spirits up. And if they drown you, keep swimming, it's good for you.

If someone says you`re an emotional woman for crying or can`t do something because of feels: Don`t worry about it. They have no idea what they are talking about and the closest they have been to a scientific paper about gender and emotionality is when they clicked on this link.

If someone says you`re as black as the ace of spades when you walk into a predominantly white area, laugh it off. Why should you be walking in predominantly white areas anyway? Keep to your black areas.

These things are light and come from people having a joke or just letting off steam. Of course it may be a little bit annoying when the joke is on you, again and again and again, but hey, some people are just unlucky. It`s going to happen. It`s going to ALWAYS happen to have some racist scum around. It`s human nature to be bigoted. You can`t stop it. As you could not stop serfdom, feudalism, slavery, human sacrifice, bloodletting by leeches, eating dung for dinner and cavorting druids. Face it, we are basically primitive.

When the chips are down, they`ll pull you out of lake if you`re drowning or call an ambulance if you get run over. They will not let you drown in the lake, man, that's the lesson you should remember. Except if you're gay (see above). Then, well, swim.

What matters is how they treat you when it REALLY matters. And you don't decide when it really matters, you faggot.

Grow a bloody pair of testicles; because that's what real people use in order to think, not the useless weight inside your skull.

I think it`s safe to assume Trump isn`t going to round you up and have you all shot. Stop being dramatic like Enros.

Oh did I mention I was black? Oh wait we uppity blacks are traitors because you liberal whites know oh-so much better. We should be your obedient pets right?

[Humble Warrior]

I recently read a conservative opinion piece which claimed that conservatives are victims of oppression by social justice activists. Here's what the author had to say about the election of Donald Trump:


He claims that people whose feelings are hurt by being called racist or a homophobic are just as much victims as those whose feelings are hurt by racism or sexism. This is totally false.

No death has ever been caused by calling someone racist or homophobic. Meanwhile, science has conclusive linked ethnic slurs to higher immigrant suicide rates. Over 6,000 gays commit suicide each year due to hate speech. Among transsexuals, hateful words people say are the leading cause of death. Recently a Muslim US Marine recruit killed himself after racist abuse from 20 of his colleagues and instructors.

This is why hateful speech against gays, muslims, women and other groups ought to be criminalized. The "who decides for you what is hate speech?" question is easily answered. Speech should be banned only if it is scientifically proven to harm people. Bigoted speech against minorities is proven to kill people and those who participate in that must be charged with murder.

In the days since Trump's election, calls to gay suicide hotlines have multiplied by more than four. Conservatives are carrying out genocide, they are just using words instead of poison gas. Perhaps now you can understand why a CNN journalist mockingly commented "poor white people" when a Trump supporter was the victim of an aggravated assault.

Complete and utter click bait nonsense.

[Enros]

can we step back from devaluating the meaning of genocide?

That is what the perpetrators of genocide have been saying to their victims since 1945.

Genocide is a word meant to describe exactly what is happening to these minorities. The government dreams of a world without them, and is killing them in order to achieve it.

[Phier]

I hate to say this but Enros is right. I just got back from a post election Trump gathering. They told me no cameras but I used my go-pro stealth glasses.

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http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/12/tr...-post-election

Calls to mental health and suicide hotlines spiked this week after Donald Trump was elected president, according to four major crisis-prevention hotlines, with much of the increase coming in calls from LGBT people. Even worse, the election results allegedly triggered the suicides of at least 10 transgender Americans—the majority of them teenagers—within the few days following Trump's win, according to reports rapidly circulating on social media. But while the Trump/Pence win and the return of Republican power may have created apprehension among the LGBT community, there's no evidence to support rumors of a recent wave of transgender-teen suicides and very good cause to doubt them. Tragically, though, this false epidemic going viral could help drive up real suicide attempts among struggling teens.

Enros, you should be ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. Stop it. This kinda crap makes people feel they SHOULD hurt themselves.

Oh and Trump is doing this...

His nascent administration already under attack, President-elect Donald Trump was considering Monday whether to inject new diversity into the GOP by recommending a woman to lead the Republican Party and an openly gay man to represent the United States at the United Nations.

Now stop trying to get gays to kill themselves because you don't like the politics, its horrible of you. You should look in the mirror long and hard and see what kind of evil you see there.

[Enros]

Now stop trying to get gays to kill themselves because you don't like the politics, its horrible of you. You should look in the mirror long and hard and see what kind of evil you see there.

Tokenism. Also the right can't claim to stand up against the oppression of gays when they are mostly responsible for it.

[HannibalExMachina]

That is what the perpetrators of genocide have been saying to their victims since 1945.

Genocide is a word meant to describe exactly what is happening to these minorities. The government dreams of a world without them, and is killing them in order to achieve it.

nope, they havent. they are all to happy when genocide is trivialized though, because it robbs the word of all meaning.

and you should really look up the definition of genocide.

[Humble Warrior]

I have studied the period of the Nazis and genocide and I can tell you that Enros should hang his head in pure shame for daring to use such terms for a a few days post election result of 2016.

People who make such topics and still insist it`s `genocide` when corrected, deserve to be spirited back to Germany`s 3rd reich in those days so they can experience what prejudice and genocide is. You belittle the true horror at that time that happened to millions of people; men, women and children. Words can`t express my disgust with this thread topic.

[Princeps]

Is there any evidence at all that "political correctness" has inspired a backlash? The evidence seems to me that Hillary's lack of charisma and the extensive effort to mar her reputation had the effect of demobilizing democratic voters. The republicans have been railing against political correctness and starwmanning social justice efforts since the 90s. And as much as our "independent super rational" you-tube atheists and internet skeptics like to think that the "SJW" is the new great villain of the century, it's really just the tired familiar nonsense from the right.

The republican control over state houses and congress is a combination of weak democratic campaigning, and gerrymandering and voter suppression by the republicans.

Also, the libertarians are always the far-right's sidekick; covering the fascist ass.

[Phier]

Is there any evidence at all that "political correctness" has inspired a backlash? The evidence seems to me that Hillary's lack of charisma and the extensive effort to mar her reputation had the effect of demobilizing democratic voters.

The republican control over state houses and congress is a combination of weak democratic campaigning, and gerrymandering and voter suppression by the republicans.

Also, the libertarians are always the far-right's sidekick; covering the fascist ass.

I love how unhinged people are getting. Really, the magic voter suppression and libertarian fascists, really..



We suppressed that vote in just about every state eh? Marches in MI, head bashing in PA, Taco Tuesday in FL.

[Princeps]

I love how unhinged people are getting. Really, the magic voter suppression and libertarian fascists, really.

GOP gerrymandering and voter suppression are well documented.

[Phier]

GOP gerrymandering and voter suppression are well documented.

I live in Illinois I know gerrymandering, and when voter ID is considered "voter suppression" then we have a problem.

Seriously they lost because they were awful, crooked, and had nothing to show for it but a woman as a woman, not as a great leader, not as great ideas, just "I'm a woman its my turn!".

Trump got MORE of the Latino vote than Romeny did and thats after all that horrible "racist" stuff like deporting illegals or that illegals commit rape and other crimes.

This election was pretty much identical to the usual Dem/Rep split but for one factor. Working class Americans voted for Trump too. I suppose all those Obama voters in 2008 and 2012 though are now racists and LGBT haters

HOW DID WE MANAGE TO KNOW NOT TO SUPPRESS THEM THIS ELECTION! Simply amazing.

[mrmouth]

Is there any evidence at all that "political correctness" has inspired a backlash? The evidence seems to me that Hillary's lack of charisma and the extensive effort to mar her reputation had the effect of demobilizing democratic voters.

In tangible terms; she lost the EC through small amounts of voter complacency in key areas - mostly black. In less tangible terms; when you have 8 years of socially liberal rule that tended towards the absolutist variety and you force far-left social narratives on all people, you have the recipe for an electoral swing. And yes, two of the racial demos where Trump saw meaningful vote where he was expected to have none, are still socially conservative.

And there is still this fundamental misunderstanding of 4chan and now what has been dubbed the alt-right, by the simpleton media.

During these eight years we seen a famous man go through a public sex change and then be named woman of the year. It's not that most people care about that person's life choices. They just care about being force fed the narratives surrounding it. Narratives that not only just alienate, but are also absolutist and then when the media gets ahold of them, good luck digesting anything else.

The one lesson Americans can learn is to not make your views and beliefs so absolutist, and then to not shove it in peoples faces. That is in fact how the Western world used to get on. It was a major part in our success. Yet now we feel the need to change people in ways we often cannot, and not in gentle ways. You either agree or are branded a racist, or bigot, or misogynist.

And so the people who push that garbage got a harsh lesson. Yes, they are a major reason for Trump.


I know people who have now admitted to voting for him, that I would have never guessed. They are logical people who feel that ultimately the far-left has run amok. And I don't think it's that they have any problem with their actual policies, but the absolutist nature of them that brand everyone who doesn't agree, into groups, and then they proceed to complain about hate while engaging in hate, themselves.

They were these people:

Who likes President Obama and voted for Donald Trump? Lots of people.

The working theory is that people simply wanted change — but many Trump voters seemed pretty happy with the presidential status quo.

17 percent of them, in fact.

According to a new poll from The Washington Post and the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University, nearly 1 in 5 Trump voters say they approve of Obama's job performance. That would mean about 8 percent (note: large margin of error) of Americans went to the polls on Election Day liking what Obama was producing as president but deciding to vote for the other party's unpopular nominee anyway.

And that is why Donald Trump is our president-elect.

This is what happens when the extreme wing of a party crafts your narratives. And that is why the one thing I took away from this election was that despite being socially progressive in ways I think are ultimately the natural social progression of humanity, the far-left is just as damaging and idiotic as the far-right. They have the capacity to be just as hate filled against people who do not agree.

And the most idiotic thing is that most of the people who don't agree have taken libertarian stances on things like Marijuana. If the far-left message wasn't so absolutist (on everything from online privacy to social issues), and if mass media didn't shove it down peoples throats, they wouldnt care.

[Heathen Hammer]

Just more fearmongering from the losing side.
The ironic part is that Trump was voted in by pretty much same people that voted for Obama. Plus Trump isn't even that right-wing (compared to the likes of McCain or Bush), he is more of a centrist, in a lot of aspects, such as gun control and foreign policy, he is much more liberal then "progressive" statist warhawks like Obama or Clinton.

[Incontinenta Buttox]

Trump won because he convinced a great number of Americans that he would destroy political correctness.

People have warned for years that political correctness actually is a problem on college campuses, where the far-left has gained institutional power and used it to persecute people for saying or thinking the wrong thing. A lot of people, both on campus and off it, were furious about political-correctness-run-amok — so furious that they would give power to any man who stood in opposition to it.

The segment of the electorate who flocked to Trump because he positioned himself as an icon of resistance to political correctness think it means this: smug, entitled, elitist, vindictive, privileged leftists jumping down the throats of ordinary people who aren't up-to-date on the latest demands of progressive groupthink.

[fkizz]

Just more fearmongering from the losing side.
The ironic part is that Trump was voted in by pretty much same people that voted for Obama. Plus Trump isn't even that right-wing (compared to the likes of McCain or Bush), he is more of a centrist, in a lot of aspects, such as gun control and foreign policy, he is much more liberal then "progressive" statist warhawks like Obama or Clinton.

Agreed, and this may be the biggest reason the left fears Trump.
Not because of his policies, personal life or type of speech - but simply because he is the most efficient at stealing away votes they saw in many moons.