Thread: Donald's First 100 Days and Before

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    Democrats getting rid of Trump to handle the presidency to someone who stands even more against everything they believe in would be hilarious.

    At least Trump doesn't believe gays are mentally ill people that should be cured, unlike Pence.

    Then again, the Democratic party is a total sellout on economics and foreign policy as well, they might as well become total sellouts on social issues too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basil II the B.S View Post
    Democrats getting rid of Trump to handle the presidency to someone who stands even more against everything they believe in would be hilarious.

    At least Trump doesn't believe gays are mentally ill people that should be cured, unlike Pence.
    And Pence would name Bannon as his vice president!

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    I have to say, it is disgraceful how Sweden handled this kerfuffle. They are letting their political dislike of Trump influence how they interact with America's government. Highly unprofessional and undiplomatic.
    SWEDEN RIOT: Police forced to shoot at protestors as violence erupts - yet PM is in denial

    SWEDEN’S capital was plunged into chaos on Monday as police were forced to fire at rioters after a violence erupted in an area described as high risk.
    The terrifying scenes took place just hours after the country’s Prime Minister, Stefan Löfven, slammed Donald Trump for claiming Sweden was in crisis as a result of its liberal refugee policy.
    Stockholm police were forced to fire a shot into the rampaging crowd in the hard-hit suburb of Rinkeby, after a mob of around 30 thugs started attacking the officers with rocks.

    In addition to the police being attacked, emergency services had their hands full as 10 cars were set alight in Rinkeby.
    What should I say, Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.

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    Actually, the nuclear option is to fire Pence and appoint Palin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithradates View Post
    And Pence would name Bannon as his vice president!



    SWEDEN RIOT: Police forced to shoot at protestors as violence erupts - yet PM is in denial



    What should I say, Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible.
    A cop shot into the crowd for that tiny riot? With real bullets? Holy crap that dude needs to be fired. I know Sweden is a peaceful country so the riot police don't get a lot of practice but damn.
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    Are you me? Their website actually says "Sweden is on the brink of becoming a LAWLESS state as the police force is losing the battle against unprecedented levels of crime, violence and a growing migrant crisis" with pictures of burning cars (that can be found in literally any country, and are probably from other countries anyway as you cannot verify from just that picture where it was taken). This is hyperbole 101. I could similarly post pictures of burning cars, put them in a slideshow and write as its description "Norway is on the brink of plunging into total chaos as the police force is losing the battle against hybrid arctic seals, thuggish polar bears and the growing popularity of Björk".
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    ...Except that he is 100% right and Sweden is a mess.
    And the rape capital of Europe too, while there are areas, populated by adherents of The Most Peaceful Religion Like Ever, where cops don't even go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    A cop shot into the crowd for that tiny riot? With real bullets? Holy crap that dude needs to be fired. I know Sweden is a peaceful country so the riot police don't get a lot of practice but damn.
    Yeah, lets get mad at the cop facing down an armed gang that's throwing rocks and setting cars on fire.

    Of course he shot them. That's just common sense.

    Was it fair when Kitchener used Maxim guns against the Dervishes at Omdurman? No, but it was justified and expedient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    Actually, the nuclear option is to fire Pence and appoint Palin.
    That's the one Democrats protesting Trump actually deserve.

    First woman President: Sarah Palin.

    #I'm with her. So progressive, it's 2016 and all those meaningless slogans that do not take into account what exactly that person stands for.

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    People shouldnt be this upset about his Sweden moment, he didnt say something absurd like "last night in Lichtenstein" or "last night in the Czech Republic", he said "what's happening last night in Sweden" and sad as it is when you ask that question you actually have a pretty solid chance that yes, something bad did happen last knight in Sweden.

    The Swedish government asks for an explanation, lol at them, really...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    Should every article have a massive list of disclosures to satisfy you? There's also a massive difference between the President having a conflict of interest, and a business engaging in... business.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclops View Post
    I have to say its a pretty weak point: newspaper space is for rent, the Oval Office officially is not.

    There are plenty of examples of the unusual level of hostility the press and organs of state have mobilised against Trump. He's fighting back with the same tools: outright lies, blowing smoke, misdirection. its extremely unedifying, if the president is on the same level as Murdoch's hacks then he's a worm.

    However if this maggot can eat some of the rotten flesh that would be a good outcome.
    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    First of all I'll need some more sources for your assertion that it was "at the same time" That Russian advertisement looks like it was from 2007.

    Secondly, the fact that a news company is willing to criticize an entity that paid for advertisements is an argument AGAINST corruption, not for it.

    I mean lets say some random drug, Nexium or something, advertises on CBS. Then a few years later on the CBS evening news they run a story about how Nexium's manufacturer and a member of congress conspired to hide safety concerns and push the drug through the FDA without proper screening. Is that hypocrisy?
    One sentence for full disclosure is not a massive effort. I've seen it done many times on articles at AT and others.

    The current position of the WaPo is that the Trump campaign was engaging in business with the Russian government and they can't offer any proof so they engage in allegations.

    In 2007 Trump was engaged in business dealing in Russia which would necessarily require it to being engaged in discussions with the Russian government. They haven't denied this. At the same time the WaPo was receiving money from the Russian government which they conveniently failed to disclose.


    There is no evidence that the Trump campaign was involved in secret negotiations with the Russian government during the presidential campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    Yeah, lets get mad at the cop facing down an armed gang that's throwing rocks and setting cars on fire.

    Of course he shot them. That's just common sense.

    Was it fair when Kitchener used Maxim guns against the Dervishes at Omdurman? No, but it was justified and expedient.
    I can't tell if this is sarcasm, trolling, or just dumb.

    "Oh no a small group of people setting cars on fire and throwing rocks! Whatever can we do against such madness besides escalate to deadly force?"

    Uh maybe hold up your plastic shields and use tear gas like riot police are supposed to?

    "These guys are making lewd gestures, better break out the sarin gas. It's only common sense."

    Also did you compare a few cops and rioters to a literal war between nations?
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    AFAIK they were not riot police, just regular officers (no protective gear)

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    One sentence for full disclosure is not a massive effort. I've seen it done many times on articles at AT and others.
    A disclosure saying what? That they are a business and have a variety of ways to raise revenue? I thought that was common sense.

    The current position of the WaPo is that the Trump campaign was engaging in business with the Russian government and they can't offer any proof so they engage in allegations.

    In 2007 Trump was engaged in business dealing in Russia which would necessarily require it to being engaged in discussions with the Russian government. They haven't denied this. At the same time the WaPo was receiving money from the Russian government which they conveniently failed to disclose.
    Why would WaPo need to disclose that one of their customers is the Russian Gov. when it has no effect on their journalism? WaPo has repeatedly posted anti-Russian articles and they have shown zero institutional bias towards Russia. Moreover, you're mis-representing the position of WaPo again. Nowhere did they say that they know for sure if Trump has any business investments in Russia. But hey, "Fake News".

    There is no evidence that the Trump campaign was involved in secret negotiations with the Russian government during the presidential campaign.
    And nobody says that. Reporters report what they see and hear. Unless of course they're actual fake news like InfoWars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathen Hammer View Post
    ...Except that he is 100% right and Sweden is a mess.
    And the rape capital of Europe too, while there are areas, populated by adherents of The Most Peaceful Religion Like Ever, where cops don't even go.
    It [no-go zone] is a word the Swedish police don't even use themselves, and disagree with. Police: there are no 'no-go zones' in Sweden

    "Rape capital"? More hyperbole. Please make a case for this. Let's see what evidence you can muster. You'll need 1) several reliable statistics and 2) explain why more reporting of rapes means that there are more rapes in Sweden (rape is one of the most underreported crimes)
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    Yeah. The no go zone seems to be a misinterpretation of police prioritized regions. It doesn't really describe the neighborhood in any objective way; since many of these areas are perfectly livable suburbs and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_mango55 View Post
    I can't tell if this is sarcasm, trolling, or just dumb.

    "Oh no a small group of people setting cars on fire and throwing rocks! Whatever can we do against such madness besides escalate to deadly force?"

    Uh maybe hold up your plastic shields and use tear gas like riot police are supposed to?

    "These guys are making lewd gestures, better break out the sarin gas. It's only common sense."

    Also did you compare a few cops and rioters to a literal war between nations?
    They're throwing rocks and other debris. They're already initiating potentially deadly force. I didn't realize assault with a deadly weapon is comparable to a lewd gesture. I didn't realize I could get a traumatic brain injury from a rude remark.

    What do you think a war is? A conflict between armed groups. What do you think a gun is? A more effective thrown rock. Do they need to use a sling before you consider it a real weapon? Bows? Matchlocks? Knives? Axes? Swords?

    Does anything other than small arms fire justify retaliation to you?
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    Btw the epidemic fake news about Russian involvement is certainly the big trend of the first 100 days.
    Apparently anything less than seeking a mutual assured destruction in a nuclear war is considered ''treason'' by Democrats and their equally retarded friends Neoconservatives, including McMullin, McCain and similar psychos infesting the CIA.

    And those classify as ''intellectuals'' and ''smart''. Worst people on the planet.
    Worse than Salafists, worse than Isis, not even Stalin sought nuclear warfare. They are trying so hard to make it impossible to have peaceful and mutually respectful relationships between Russia and the US.

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    Here's an hour and ten minutes of intelligent anti-Trump dialogue for you:

    Some snippets:
    If you want to make a difference, stand up with pro life people, stand up with 2nd amendment people, stand together with those you would normally not, and demand an inquiry into Trump's connection to Russia and demand the law be changed so he is compelled to release his tax returns.
    Trump has $600m worth of mortgages from China
    Trump jr. says that a hugely disproportionate amount of their income comes from Russia.
    etc.

    This is an interesting podcast.
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    http://www.npr.org/sections/parallel...mp-state-visit

    You've gotta love the biting insults that only a university-educated Brit can come up with. From Paul Flynn of the Labour Party:

    "The day after the inauguration, two million people, mostly women, marched on the streets of America and 100,000 people marched in this country. It was an expression of fear and anxiety that we had [of] someone like this in the White House wielding such enormous power. ... but unfortunately his intellectual capacity is protozoan."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Princeps View Post
    Yeah. The no go zone seems to be a misinterpretation of police prioritized regions. It doesn't really describe the neighborhood in any objective way; since many of these areas are perfectly livable suburbs and so on.
    Rinkeby is a no-go zone.

    Police had to use live ammunition to get out of there, that is reality.

    Trump has every right to bring up Sweden as a bad example why you should never mix a western wellfare state with open borders policy.

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