View Poll Results: For what factions have you played a campaign (for more than a few turns)?

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  • Senatus Populusque Romanus

    45 54.22%
  • Safot Softim biQarthadast

    33 39.76%
  • Makedonia

    29 34.94%
  • Koinon Hellenon

    26 31.33%
  • Epeiros

    16 19.28%
  • Arche Seleukeia

    23 27.71%
  • Ptolemaioi

    18 21.69%
  • Baktria

    25 30.12%
  • Hayastan

    18 21.69%
  • Pontos

    16 19.28%
  • Pahlava

    19 22.89%
  • Aedui

    9 10.84%
  • Aruernoi

    11 13.25%
  • Pritanoi

    15 18.07%
  • Leusitane

    7 8.43%
  • Sweboz

    13 15.66%
  • Getai

    17 20.48%
  • Saba'u wa-gawwum

    14 16.87%
  • Saka Rauka

    9 10.84%
  • Sauromatę

    10 12.05%
  • Mamla'ha biMassylim

    12 14.46%
  • Pergamon

    15 18.07%
  • Taksashila

    10 12.05%
  • Lougiones

    8 9.64%
  • Kimmerios Bosporos

    18 21.69%
  • Areuakoi

    14 16.87%
  • Boioi

    13 15.66%
  • Malkuta Nabatu

    7 8.43%
  • Eleutheroi (through modding)

    1 1.20%
  • I don't play campaigns.

    0 0%
  • I haven't played the mod, but do browse this subforum.

    0 0%
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Thread: Informal poll on played faction campaigns.

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    Icon5 Informal poll on played faction campaigns.

    I was wondering what factions get the most and least playtime in the mod, since I have the impression that it's Rome, Carthage or the Hellenistic factions that get picked most often. As such, I have created an (informal) poll to get some numbers on this as a personal initiative.The poll allows voting on several entries, is anonymous and will end in 30 days. The results will be revealed afterwards, but will remain hidden until then so they don't influence voting. For the purpose of getting some accurate data: I'd like the votes to only include campaigns that have lasted for a substantial amount of time. This doesn't mean that the campaign has to be finished, only that it wasn't abandoned after a couple of turns or only fired up for a short test.

    Feel free to also give some feedback on what you like and don't like about certain factions' campaigns, but this isn't the main purpose of the poll, I'm going for statistical analysis here.

    My thanks for your time and attention.
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    aruernoi have a stressful start but lots of fun

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    Almost every faction - I hate the starting economy
    All that debt is very unpleasant to see, and it leads to blitzing in order to fix the situation.

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    Main ones (basically played it more than 250 turns or something)

    Roman, Ptolemaioi and Pergamon.

    Others (between 100-250 turns)

    Boii, Epeiros, Carthage, Saba, Pritanoi.


    On next patch i'll probably play Baktria.
    Then, as throngs of his enemies bore down upon him and one of his followers said, "They are making at thee, O King," "Who else, pray," said Antigonus, "should be their mark? But Demetrius will come to my aid." This was his hope to the last, and to the last he kept watching eagerly for his son; then a whole cloud of javelins were let fly at him and he fell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad View Post
    Almost every faction - I hate the starting economy
    All that debt is very unpleasant to see, and it leads to blitzing in order to fix the situation.
    yes. if you get really unlucky with devastation you are arbitrarily set back 20+ turns which necessitates a restart, i wish we could think of a more elegant way to implement a challenge in the early game. blitzing always feels sort of like powergaming

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    2.2b:

    Saba (500+ turns)
    SPQR (250+ turns)

    Planned:

    Pritanoi (to test a submodlet of mine, basically to monitor the map from a safe distance rather than play in earnest)

    2.2c (pending release):

    Areuakoi
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    Nobody likes Saka Rauka

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    I have a Saka campaign on the go. More than any other campaign it is one that rewards a detailed study of the geography of the wider region and the risks and rewards of expanding into various territories. The Lougiones campaign almost matches it for this in that their brother tribes stretch out in various directions around them awaiting unification or offering refuge. The Lougiones are also great for role-playing, as they it is essentially a militia army attracted to follow charismatic strongmen. In both cases knowing the land you inhabit like the back of your hand is vital to survival. I like this. It reflects the knowledge of the wider world that was always the nomads' treasure and the city-settlers' loss. And it is pleasingly precarious, always on the brink of disaster.

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    I just realised, the only faction I've played for longer than about 30 turns is Epeiros, and at least half of those were migration games.

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    Default Re: Informal poll on played faction campaigns.

    Quote Originally Posted by wermez View Post
    Nobody likes Saka Rauka
    I played as Saka for many turns, it was difficult, but I managed to conquer the lands I wanted before quitting.
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    Default Re: Informal poll on played faction campaigns.

    I've played the Saka many a time.

    I ing forgot to tick off Hayasdan in the list though--I've played several longer Hai campaigns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rad View Post
    Almost every faction - I hate the starting economy
    All that debt is very unpleasant to see, and it leads to blitzing in order to fix the situation.
    Wait a second, you're telling me that the real Seleucid King DIDNT have to sell his fleet, elephants and most of his army?

    What is this? The History channel?

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    What? People do not like starting economics? I absolutely LOVE those that bring me into a long debt. Thats challenging & fun to play. Thats why I was not able to play more than 30 turns with Rome and Carthage - they are simply too easy and too boring (I regret this as I would love to try out their units etc). Other than that I played more than 30 turns with every hellenistic faction plus Pontos, Hai, Saka Rauka. It is not like I do not like barbarians but hellenes are priority. After patch I think I will give Arevacii a try
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    Why are results hidden?

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    @hlid Yup. There must be a better way.
    @romanius Weird, I know
    @rail It's not a challenge at all. You just keep fighting until you're out of the red. Annoying and unpleasant, that's what it is. Instead of actually trying to develop my country, I am forced to fight the AI at its most weakest state.

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    Default Re: Informal poll on played faction campaigns.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayve View Post
    Why are results hidden?
    Objectivity of the poll; the results will remain hidden until November 14th, so they don't influence voting, though I may reveal the results earlier if no more votes have been cast for a while.

    Also, my thanks to the 36 people who have voted so far.
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    My thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cohors_Evocata View Post
    Objectivity of the poll; the results will remain hidden until November 14th, so they don't influence voting, though I may reveal the results earlier if no more votes have been cast for a while.

    Also, my thanks to the 36 people who have voted so far.
    sweboz are winning obviously, right? obviously

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    Default Re: Informal poll on played faction campaigns.

    Mostly Carthage and Pergamon.

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    Would it be better if you didn't "have" to sell fleets and elephants at the start of the game but started without them and in just as much debt? Would people feel better about that? The debt doesn't lead to desertions or infrastructure crumbling, as it would in real life. Playing as Seleucids I don't sell anything. After a few turns securing Tarsus, Antioch and Damascus, my elephants are gone anyway and at least they've been put to good use.

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    My problem with debt economies isnt the challenge. I like the early game challenges.
    Its the fact that you always end up playing the same way for lots of turns more or less. There has to be a better way to make the early game more dynamic through quests or something like that.

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