Artstudio's Work Thread

[Artstudio]

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[Slytacular]

I'm not sure I like the walls from Mount & Blade because we will not be able to garrison the walls with units. If you can achieve a similar result with Attila Walls, that would be awesome.

That actually looks like one of the multiplayer maps for Siege in Mount & Blade.

[Sir_Pee_Alot]

I do like to help you guys with some custom castle maps and for that castle model you could properly make a hill castle map with a no go-zone for the castle and fight around it. I don't know if it could work with these models Artsudio but you could try and add a low/high-wall entity on the walls and see if it add's units on the wall.

[Heisenburrg]

@Sir_Pee_Alot;
Maybe it would be better to work just with remodeled original Attila maps and their original walls to achieve proper castle-maps... Have no idea from modding but I heard recently that any kind of completely custom maps are still broken (at least if it goes to walls and AI) and it´s still impossible to add them to the campaign map.

[Artstudio]

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[Sir_Pee_Alot]

@Sir_Pee_Alot;
Maybe it would be better to work just with remodeled original Attila maps and their original walls to achieve proper castle-maps... Have no idea from modding but I heard recently that any kind of completely custom maps are still broken (at least if it goes to walls and AI) and it´s still impossible to add them to the campaign map.

Not entirely true I have made a siege map where the AI defend and attacks like it sould you can put men on the walls same for artillery only men can't walk on walls Yet. me and someone else have found a way but since the TEd is bugged it's alot of try and error.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=782719536

And replacing models will never look as awesome as a custom made castle plus will be full of bugs.

[Mr.Jox]

Not entirely true I have made a siege map where the AI defend and attacks like it sould you can put men on the walls same for artillery only men can't walk on walls Yet. me and someone else have found a way but since the TEd is bugged it's alot of try and error.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=782719536

And replacing models will never look as awesome as a custom made castle plus will be full of bugs.

Do you have more info about placement on the walls and make units capable to walk on them? I know many TEd's bug fixes but only walls mounting is unknown to me.

[Sir_Pee_Alot]

Do you have more info about placement on the walls and make units capable to walk on them? I know many TEd's bug fixes but only walls mounting is unknown to me.

Sry for the late response but for now the only walls that seem to work this way are the RTW II ones with the red roof tiles.

So you go to a CA map in Ted and copy all the AI and EF lines then past them in your own map with the walls and edit them to your map setup and manually set them to wall\edge ect and everything else for the AI it sould work. It's not ideal but it sould work Myn Ted is bugged as hell and have alot of problems with models not showing and things like that so i still need to reinstall everything that's why i can't use those walls now anymore but i have tryed it with the Atilla walls and they don't seem to work this way.

[Causeless]

Sry for the late response but for now the only walls that seem to work this way are the RTW II ones with the red roof tiles.

So you go to a CA map in Ted and copy all the AI and EF lines then past them in your own map with the walls and edit them to your map setup and manually set them to wall\edge ect and everything else for the AI it sould work. It's not ideal but it sould work Myn Ted is bugged as hell and have alot of problems with models not showing and things like that so i still need to reinstall everything that's why i can't use those walls now anymore but i have tryed it with the Atilla walls and they don't seem to work this way.

So if you copy the CA wall pathing data into a custom map and modify it to match the layout of the new walls, you can have working walls with units able to move on/off them and walk along them?

If so, that's a big breakthrough! That would allow new custom maps to be imported into a campaign without any big issues, since the AI could use ladders safely (which is their favourite siege weapon).

On that note - has there been any research into allowing ship landings? I've heard that custom maps have issues with ship landing spots.

[Mr.Jox]

Sry for the late response but for now the only walls that seem to work this way are the RTW II ones with the red roof tiles.

So you go to a CA map in Ted and copy all the AI and EF lines then past them in your own map with the walls and edit them to your map setup and manually set them to wall\edge ect and everything else for the AI it sould work. It's not ideal but it sould work Myn Ted is bugged as hell and have alot of problems with models not showing and things like that so i still need to reinstall everything that's why i can't use those walls now anymore but i have tryed it with the Atilla walls and they don't seem to work this way.

There's few more ways around TEd:

1. Raw battlemap files are nothing else than .xml files and so it's ez to edit the code as long as you do it properly.
2. According to what I said above any programmer is able to make own TEd which performs these .xml files.
3. There's always few tricky ways to make things work, just like you offered and the way how I put custom assets in TEd (see contentbox)

CUSTOM ASSET

In this case the textures are taken from vanilla and used as a placeholder but the models are absolutely custom and were placed exactly where I wanted it in TEd.

[Nikoline]

Guys,I see u had a great work but why the Rise of Mordor team says they can't able to modify the campaign maps.

[Artstudio]

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[The Wandering Storyteller]

Thanks Artstudio, medieval castle looks awesome! In the future, it may be good to build huge castles - that will show on the campaign map. Would also like to see your castle on the campaign map, etc. Anyways thanks a lot, and if you did Venice in all its glory - awesome!

[Heisenburrg]

Indeed, it looks very nice... Keep going
But maybe old wall models could remain for cities (they fit very well for them imo) and new models could be used for castles.

[Slytacular]

I think the Mount & Blade Walls are too out of proportion for this game. When you scale the entire wall size to match the length, the height of the crenellations are too large to make sense. I'll make some castle walls eventually.

[Heisenburrg]

@Sir_Pee_Alot
These are very good news. Btw; your castle looks just awesome. Do you plan to add a main hall for it?
And what´s more important; could you use these custom maps on the campaign map?

[You_Guess_Who]

I know we used lots and lots of M&B mod assets, and now TWW building models. But can we use M&B models itself?

We can say we can use other TW models because obviously they all CA's, but is it permissible to use Taleworlds'?

Oh yeah, almost forgot:

the file tech.cs2 is responsible for burning buildings

Can you edit or create cs2 files? Because it also determines the EFlines, placements of men on the buildings.

[Artstudio]

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[Ltd.]

Awesome work !
One thing though: the towers look a bit oversized to me. If you could reduce them to around 70 - 80 % of their current size, they should be perfect.

You are doing a great job though.

[FrozenmenSS]

Awesome work !
One thing though: the towers look a bit oversized to me. If you could reduce them to around 70 - 80 % of their current size, they should be perfect.

You are doing a great job though.

just look at the oversized sidedoors