Great!!! Exactly what I wanted to know
Now we just need to check if the game can handle the special letters unless people prefer to stick with the English version
Great!!! Exactly what I wanted to know
Now we just need to check if the game can handle the special letters unless people prefer to stick with the English version
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Just tell me if any of the letters don't work, and I'll tell you a game-friendly alternative. By the way, won't Gigantus' minimod fix that problem?
Not sure it fixes the "nordic" letters. I have to test it
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Now we just need to check if the game can handle the special letters unless people prefer to stick with the English versioni prefer Jarl in Svealand, so better in english, i think that for not scandinavian people is better to understand it,In the languages, we usually don't use the word 'of', so when it comes to for example 'Jarl of Svealand', it would most often be 'Jarl in Svealand/Jarl í Svíţjóđ'.
"Jarl í Svíţjóđ'." with this only understand Jarl hahahaha, is how if you put arabic letters for us
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That's a good way to learn another language
Thanks for your input. As said, it depends what most of the people prefer
Another option "in between" could be the game-friendly way that Elgrimr has mentionned.
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In the old good Battle for the Baltics I've played Sweden. There're cool units, but King of Norway bug has stopped me from playing more.
Thanks, Eldgrimr, for your input! Very appreciated. I think the province names are ok. I'd go for Svíţjóđ insted of Uppland (I've already proposed it in the thread in the form of Svitjod). I'm in favour of the old script.
Eldgrimr - if you can write a paragraph how to read those old letters then I'd include it into the information entry of my submod.
For the Ortodox names I'm going to use the system: Knyaz + province + suffix: sky. Eg: Knayz Skáneysky, Knayz Gulaţingslǫgsky.
I have no idea how to make genetivus for the Muslim names though. Emir of Gulaţingslǫg ?
For Russian factions, it should be Knyaz + province + suffix 'skyi. Your example would be Knyaz Gulaţingslǫg'skyi.
For Muslim factions, until we can find something better, I'd stick as you mentionned
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Here's a simple way to read the unique letters in the names:
Ţ/ţ = Hard '"th" sound like in "thin"
Đ/đ = Soft "th" sound like in "then"
Ó/ó = "o" sound like in "tool"
Ǫ/ǫ = "o" sound like in "coffee"
Í/í = "e" sound like in "feet"
@ Eldgrimr - thanks, I've put it into the entry. I've got a question. Norđmans Konungr means King of Northmen. However, how would you call "Crown of". Like in Poland I've got Rex Poloniae, but the crown is "Corona Poloniae".
@ Lifth - you're right, -skyi
@ j.a.luna - for the ease of the players I'm going to add in the descriptions "Granted fiefs around X" where X is the name of the settlment in the province. eg. Jarl í Svíţjóđ: "Granted fiefs around Sigtuna".
Everybody else: why not to do similar things for other regions? Poland I can do myself, HRR we can do together, France perhaps Lifht, but Hungary, Ruthenia, Lithuania, Cumania also need fresh ideas. Not to mention Muslim factions.
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Jurand a little question about tittles...for pagans factions like mongols,cumans and lithuanians,what is the name for the tittle? Lord of...? I think that could be ''chieftain of...''
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Norđmans Konungr is grammatically incorrect, it's a bit too literal. In my opinion, the best title would be Norrœn konungr (Northern king). Bear in mind that I am not an expert, so if someone knows better Old Norse, then you're welcome to correct me.
I can't seem to find an old Norse word for "crown", probably because we borrowed that word from the Germans.
Hungary, somebody mention Magyarország!?
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I continue improving and working in PTF submod...tonight the list of settlements for BRITISH ISLANDS
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I will continue with other regions as France, Italy, North Africa...
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Besides tonight I have also been able to finish the list of settlements for all ITALY
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Yes, you may have a look here and here, then meditate a bit, and tell us what do you think and maybe you'd have better ideas. Bear in mind that I'm pretty confident about using Latin in these titles . However, I wonder how the orthodox titles should look like. Maybe you can make a list how the Russians would call the Knyazs in these provinces.
To be sure - the crown for the kings was called in Latin: Corona Hungariae? (we need a short name)
Good. How then is this borrowed from the Germans word? (to have an option to chose from)
The problem is there're are only catholic, orthodox and muslim titles in the game. So they have to use one of them, I think they use orthodox ones, but I haven't checked it.
Britanin, Italy, Spain - great! we'll make use of it down the road. I hope you've checked the map accrodingly so that "no province is left behind" ;-)
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In the case of a Russian faction conquering Hungary, the title should be still knyaz.
On a side note, quite a lot of Germans settled in Scandinavia during the Middle Ages
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I guess for now you can keep the initial name until we find out. It might take a while to find all settlements' names for each culture (if possible )
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mmm ok it is a pity...but for romans(byzantines), no is more correct the tittle of dux or strategos of...than knyaz of...(this is more for russians)Originally Posted by j.a.luna View Post
Jurand a little question about tittles...for pagans factions like mongols,cumans and lithuanians,what is the name for the tittle? Lord of...? I think that could be ''chieftain of...''
The problem is there're are only catholic, orthodox and muslim titles in the game. So they have to use one of them, I think they use orthodox ones, but I haven't checked it.
Britanin, Italy, Spain - great! we'll make use of it down the road. I hope you've checked the map accrodingly so that "no province is left behind" ;-)
When you begin for iberian peninsula tittles i will have the correct tittles hehe
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