PTF: provincial titles’ fix for SSHIP 0.9.2 (included in 097+)

[Svir@c]

Hungary, somebody mention Magyarország!?

[j.a.luna]

I continue improving and working in PTF submod...tonight the list of settlements for BRITISH ISLANDS
Note: the only problem is that i didnt find the correct files for Obar Dheathain(Aberdeen), i think that is confused with the Coimbra settlement...

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BRITISH ISLANDS

-London
-Norwich
-Bristol
-Lincoln
-Kaerenarvon
-York
-Dun Eideann
-Obar Dheathain
-Duibhlinn

DOWNLOAD HERE
BRITISH ISLANDS.7z
I will continue with other regions as France, Italy, North Africa...

[j.a.luna]

Besides tonight I have also been able to finish the list of settlements for all ITALY
NOTE:settlements as Reggio di Calabria,Venezsia and Milan have double and different coat of arms...

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ITALY

-Genova
-Milan
-Verona
-Pisa
-Venezsia
-Bologna
-Firenze
-Ancona
-Roma
-Napoli
-Bari
-Reggio di Calabria
-Palermu
-Casteddu

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ITALY.7z

[Lifthrasir]

In the case of a Russian faction conquering Hungary, the title should be still knyaz.

On a side note, quite a lot of Germans settled in Scandinavia during the Middle Ages

[Jurand of Cracow]

In the case of a Russian faction conquering Hungary, the title should be still knyaz.

Yes, but how did the Ruthenians called eg Varad? We may use "Knayz Varadskyi", but maybe they had a special name?

[Lifthrasir]

I guess for now you can keep the initial name until we find out. It might take a while to find all settlements' names for each culture (if possible )

[Jurand of Cracow]

I guess for now you can keep the initial name until we find out. It might take a while to find all settlements' names for each culture (if possible )

Yes, but if Svir@c is ready to assist, then I wouldn't mind if he delves into this subject.

I can't seem to find any old Swedish/Norwegian/Danish word for it, but it seems to have been borrowed from "krone".

so: Krone Danmark ?

mmm ok it is a pity...but for romans(byzantines), no is more correct the tittle of dux or strategos of...than knyaz of...(this is more for russians)
When you begin for iberian peninsula tittles i will have the correct tittles hehe

Ortodox names: for some provinces the titles will indeed be Greek (like Chersonesos), but for the other Knayz ... skyi.

BTW -I'm I've already used your files to make some work on the crowns for Britain, Italy and Spain. I'd be very grateful if you could do the same with France and Northern Africa and also with Egypt (up to Ascalon).

[j.a.luna]

Originally Posted by j.a.luna View Post
Jurand a little question about tittles...for pagans factions like mongols,cumans and lithuanians,what is the name for the tittle? Lord of...? I think that could be ''chieftain of...''
The problem is there're are only catholic, orthodox and muslim titles in the game. So they have to use one of them, I think they use orthodox ones, but I haven't checked it.
Britanin, Italy, Spain - great! we'll make use of it down the road. I hope you've checked the map accrodingly so that "no province is left behind" ;-)

mmm ok it is a pity...but for romans(byzantines), no is more correct the tittle of dux or strategos of...than knyaz of...(this is more for russians)
When you begin for iberian peninsula tittles i will have the correct tittles hehe

[Eldgrimr]

I guess the best title would be "*country*s krone" If you wanna use "crown of *country*".

[Lifthrasir]

Hold on a second. I take France if you don't mind

Also, it seems that there are several old Norse words for king: buðlungr (also used for prince), fylkir, gramr, jǫfurr, lofðungr, þengill and as already mentioned konungr. I also found that king of the English can be translated in old Norse by Engla konungr. The old Norse was spoken at least until the 13th century. Some sources say even until the 1st half of the 14th century. All in all, for Denmark, what about Danmǫrk konungr

[Eldgrimr]

For Denmark, the correct term would be Danakonungr (Dane-king).

[Lifthrasir]

Thanks Mate. That was my feeling but I couldn't find the translation in old Norse for Danes

[Eldgrimr]

Also, the correct term for the king of Norway would be Noregskonungr.

[Lifthrasir]

I found that Norrœn could fit for Norwegian

[Lifthrasir]

I found that Norrœn could fit for Norwegian

[Eldgrimr]

Norrœn most often means "Norse" or "Northern".

[Lifthrasir]

So in that case and if I get it right, we can reasonably use the following titles:
- King of Norway: Noregskonungr
- King of Denmark: Danakonungr
- King of Scandinavia (admitting the player has conquered Norway, Sweden and Denmark): Norrœnkonungr

Is that correct?
Question: should we include Finland for the last title?

[Eldgrimr]

So in that case and if I get it right, we can reasonably use the following titles:
- King of Norway: Noregskonungr
- King of Denmark: Danakonungr
- King of Scandinavia (admitting the player has conquered Norway, Sweden and Denmark): Norrœnkonungr

Is that correct?
Question: should we include Finland for the last title?

That is correct, but you don't have to include Finland, considering they were never counted as Nordic.

[j.a.luna]

That is correct, but you don't have to include Finland, considering they were never counted as Nordic.

So there will be crowns for all factions(England,Castille,Poland,France...)? and also hypothetical crowns when unifying countries or large regions like Spain,Italy, Restori Imperi for Romans, maybe also Great Khalifa(for all muslims)...

[j.a.luna]

BTW -I'm I've already used your files to make some work on the crowns for Britain, Italy and Spain. I'd be very grateful if you could do the same with France and Northern Africa and also with Egypt (up to Ascalon).

Your wishes will be granted...
Tonight FRANCE:

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FRANCE

-Roazhon
-Angers
-Rouen
-Poitiers
-Bordeaux
-Toulouse
-Clermont
-Arles
-Lyon
-Nizza
-Orleans
-Troyes
-Dijon
-Paris
-Rheims
-Gand

DOWNLOAD HERE:
FRANCE.7z