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    The County of Toulouse


    The Languedoc is a region divided between many masters. Its lords are split between loyalties to magnates in France, Spain, and elsewhere. Weak central authority and a tolerant culture has facilitated the growth of heresy in the region, a dualist philosophy known as Catharism. By the 13th Century, many among the nobility and peasant classes had converted to this heresy, and it was firmly entrenched, despite the best efforts of the Papacy to eradicate it. At this time, it may even have been the dominant religion in the area, and numerous chroniclers lament the fear that it might replace Catholicism in Languedoc completely.

    Relations with Rome reached the breaking point in 1208, when the Papal Legate, Peter of Castelnau excommunicated Count Raymond VI of Toulouse. While gathering a league of local barons to root out the Cathar heresy, the Legate was assassinated, leaving Pope Innocent III no choice but to call the princes of Europe to arms against the Cathars. The Albigensian Crusade had begun.

    The crusade was popular initially, and men flocked from all over Europe to destroy the Albigensians (so-named for the Viscounty of Albi, the region where the heresy was strongest). The crusaders were led by Simon de Montfort, an experienced commander fresh from service in Holy Land with the Fourth Crusade. Simon experienced much initial success, taking numerous towns and castles, and massacring Cathars by the hundreds.

    The situation for Toulouse has become desperate. Peter II of Aragon has marched North with his army to the aid of Toulouse. Simon has accepted the challenge, and as the two armies draw toward the fateful battlefield at Muret, echoes of the words spoken at Béziers ring in the minds of crusader and heretic alike: "Kill them all. God will know his own."
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    The Toulousians

    Raymond VI, Count of Toulouse
    Though finding himself against the crusading forces, Raymond is not a Cathar himself. Nevertheless, he feels an obligation to protect the rights of his vassals in Toulouse, which he feels have been unjustly violated by the ambitions of the Papacy.

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    Primi Milites
    The elite shock troops. Knights and men at arms of the highest caliber, with the best equipment money can buy.

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    Milites Gregarii
    Well-equipped troops who, for one reason or another, are unable to provide themselves with a horse to take into battle. These form a solid line of shock infantry.

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    Servientes Equites
    Valets, squires, or sergeants, typically in the service of a knight, often riding one of his master’s three to four horses and providing support in battle.

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    Armati
    Heavily-armed support troops made up of valets, sergeants, and squires.

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    Scutiferi
    Shield-bearers and lance-bearers who support the more heavily-armed knights.

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    Pedites
    Urban troops called upon to fulfill their feudal duty to their lord.

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    Balistarii Equites
    Mounted crossbowmen

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    Balistarii
    Crossbowmen

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    Couleuvriniers
    Handgunners
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    Albigensians

    Raymond II Trencavel, Count of Carcassonne

    Known simply as ‘Trencavel’ in most charters, Raymond’s father Raymond Roger died in prison in 1209, a captive of the crusaders. The Trencavel family’s dominions included Beziers and Albi, the heartland of the Cathar heresy. This made them the primary target of Simon de Montfort’s initial campaigns in Languedoc. Though most of his father’s lands have been awarded to de Montfort, Trencavel is determined to regain his birthright, and restore his family to their rightful place among the nobility of Languedoc.

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    Primi Milites Perfecti
    Cathars did not recognize the legitimacy of any formal clergy. They distinguished between themselves as believers and “Perfecti,” (The Perfect) a special group who were believed to have special knowledge revealed to them. This unit is not necessarily historical, but represents nobles who had converted to Catharism. Their black and white colors were a deliberate choice to represent the dualist beliefs of Catharism, which believed in two Gods, a ‘Good’ God and a ‘bad’ God.

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    Milites Perfecti
    Heavy Cathar foot knights

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    Servientes Equites Cathari
    Cathar Melee Cavalry

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    Armati Cathari
    Cathar Foot Soldiers

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    (Pavise Spearmen and Halberdiers)







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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The County of Toulouse

    looks Great

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    Beautiful! I love your texture work.

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    Very nice
    Also, updated the preview collection.

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    This looks so good! Nice work!

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    Awesome job!

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    Those Romans maaannn gottta love 'em! Kidding! a nice Romance faction! Love those painted helmets! A pretty disting faction I may say! Keep up the good work Sir! I mean... Monsieur...

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    Routiers, Free Companies, Esorcheurs

    The relative impotence of central authority in certain periods is particularly well demonstrated at the end of wars, when troops had to be dismissed. This could be simple, but when circumstances combined at a critical point, it could be difficult for governments to rid themselves of soldiers. In France, this situation arose in three major occasions: with the Routiers of at the turn of the 13th Century, the Free Companies that ravaged the countryside in the 14th Century, and the Ecorcheurs that arose after the Treaty of Arras in 1435. These bands would often raid and pillage the periphery of the great kingdoms for years until they were rounded up and defeated by authorities, or simply hired into another army.

    Note: I don’t intend for these units to be specific only to Toulouse, and there is possibility for them to be used as rebels and auxiliaries by many other Western European factions.


    Ruttae
    'Ruttae' is the latin word for Routiers.

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    Ruttae Equites
    Though rarer, sometimes Routiers were mounted troops. These are a medium shock cavalry unit.
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    Pailleri Equites
    Pailleri is Latin for "strawmen." It is unclear why bandits were sometimes referred to in this way by chroniclers. Perhaps it was because they wore straw hats, or because they set fire to straw while raiding. This unit is a skirmisher cavalry unit similar in style to Almagovars

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    Pailleri
    Light melee infantry. Throw a precursor javelin before charging.

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    Cothrelli
    Cothrelli is another term sometimes used by chroniclers to describe these bandits. The origin of this is also unclear, but it is thought to derive either from a Latin word for knife (cultellus), or from 'cottar' a word for a poor peasant.
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    (there will be more bandit-type units coming in Tier 2 and 3)

    Bonus sneak peek for Tier 2! (Coming soon)

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    YOU SHOULD ALSO REPRESENT THE CATALAN AND THE NAVARRE FREE COMPANIES hired also by the Balkan factions including Serbian Empire and Byzantines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visarion View Post
    YOU SHOULD ALSO REPRESENT THE CATALAN AND THE NAVARRE FREE COMPANIES hired also by the Balkan factions including Serbian Empire and Byzantines.
    Free companies will be the tier 2 level of these unit types

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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The County of Toulouse

    Ohhhh I see... did the hire The Catalan Company or the Navaresse one bac... by any chance!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visarion View Post
    Ohhhh I see... did the hire The Catalan Company or the Navaresse one bac... by any chance!?
    Guess... they must of... due to proximity... and the king of Leone did intervene against the troops sent by the Pope to punish the Cathars... anywas great descr

    King of Aragon... my bad

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    Are there any plan to add religious exclusive units?

    IE :
    Muslim (Ibadi, Sunni, and Syi'a) : Ghulam (Dismounted & Mounted, Light & Heavy) and Ghazi - Building -> Slave Market/Ghulam Barrack
    Catholic : Religious Order (Templar and friends) - Building -> Order House/Monastery
    Cathar : Albigensian/Cathar (Dismounted & Mounted, Light & Heavy) - Building -> Cathar Church/Cathar Prayer House
    Judaism : Zelot Kana'im (Heavy and Light, Dismounted And Mounted) and Siqarim (light Infantry) - Building -> Synagoge/Zelot Meeting House
    Zoroastrian : Immortal Zhayedan (Heavy and Light, Dismounted And Mounted) - Building -> Fire Temple/Immortal Barrack
    Orthodoxy & Oriental Orthodoxy : ?
    Bogomilsm : ?
    Pagan : Berserker (?)
    Tengri : ?
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    Updated a bunch of units with their Tier 2 Units. Added the Tier 2 Free Companies. Haven't finished the barding for Tier 2 yet so the mounted knights aren't part of this update.

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    Beautiful job, especially on that red and white standard bearer for the Cathars !

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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The County of Toulouse

    Looking awesome!

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    Men at arms
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    Perfect Men at Arms
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    BAMF Officers
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    [/SPOILER]

    Perfect Men at Arms


    BAMF Officers
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    Haha too much fantasy bro.. remove that paintings, they break the immersion xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominogoc View Post



    Perfect Men at Arms


    BAMF Officers
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    Haha too much fantasy bro.. remove that paintings, they break the immersion xD

    Which paintings do you refer to ?
    It isnt unheard of medieval helmets having decorations or colours, just look up "black salets".

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    Great stuff but wat is the last officer helmet suppose to represent!? Weariness?

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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: The County of Toulouse

    @dominogoc

    I don't know. Since I'm colourblind it's hard to see what I'm looking at. Is that bronze or gold or a mix? Looks like a blueing [2] gone wrong. lol, maybe it's a monster painted sallet or something. I don't know.


    EDIT: According to Dr. Capwell, this german helmet might have been worn by a low level soldier, a serjeant, crossbowman or light horseman. Possibly forming an entire unit with the same helmet. Can you imagine? Scary.

    ~Wille
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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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