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[Lucius Malfoy]

English Units
Militia/Shire Troops
Light Footmen
Hiring cost: Available only through militia rolls
Upkeep: 1 crown per soldier raised

Militia Longbowmen
Hiring cost: Available only through militia rolls
Upkeep: 1 crown per soldier raised

Livery and Maintenance
Heavy Footmen
Hiring cost: 5,000
Upkeep: 1,500

Men-at-Arms
Hiring cost: 8,000
Upkeep: 3,500

Yeomen Longbows
Hiring cost: 6,000
Upkeep: 2,000

Retinue
Knights
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000

Foreign Units
Infantry
Gallowglasses:
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000
Limit per char: 4 units max

Switzers:
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000
Limit per char: 4 units max

Cavalry
Border Reivers:
Hiring cost: 10,000
Upkeep: 3,500
Limit per char: 2 units max

Gens d'Armes:
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000
Limit per char: 2 units max

Coutiliers:
Hiring cost: 10,000
Upkeep: 3,500
Limit per char: 2 units max

Gunpowder
Handgunners:
Hiring cost: 15,000
Upkeep: 7,500
Limit per char: 2 units max

Cannons:
Hiring cost: 20,000
Upkeep: 10,000
Limit per char: 1 unit max

*Foreign units should only be hired for war and battle.
*Livery and Maintenance can only be made up of Heavy Footmen, Yeomen Archers and Men-at-Arms. Just as Retinue can only be made up of Knights.

Now we are still determining a major change of making units consist of 1,000 men instead of 300 men, which will be discussed after Towton. Which means we would have to adjust the sizes of militias if that were the case to balance the enormous change in numbers from our original standards.

You won't be able to buy extra Light Footmen or Militia Longbowmen as you get plenty from militias. We won't have a set cap for each rank (like in GoT) unless necessary but, like any noble, you can buy whatever you can manage with your income. The decision on foreign unit limitations is final and cannot be negotiated at this time. We feel this is best given the power of some of these units. More units may be added on later, but that is not for certain.

This will be added in after Towton when people begin to generate money.

Does this look good to you all?

[Lucius Malfoy]

Guys, yay or nay to unit stats? I am thinking of nay cause we can make this simple in terms of battles. Less about modifiers for units and more revolves around the orders and the commanders traits.

[Jokern]

Hmm, while I agree that it would be good with less modifiers and more about orders and traits, I do think we need some way of differentiating between militia, livery and maintenance, and foreign mercenaries in terms of quality.

[Lucius Malfoy]

I was thinking of adding small bonuses, just like +1, +2 or +3 to rolls and vice versa (-1, -2, and -3 to rolls).

[Jokern]

That seems fair to me.

[Barry Goldwater]

That seems fair to me.

I second this and am overall going to say 'yay' to the proposal

[Lucius Malfoy]

English Units
Militia/Shire Troops
Light Footmen
Stats: Can form Shield Wall
Hiring cost: Available only through militia rolls
Upkeep: 1 crown per soldier raised

Militia Longbowmen
Hiring cost: Available only through militia rolls
Upkeep: 1 crown per soldier raised

Livery and Maintenance (Professional)
Heavy Footmen
Stats: +1 against Light Footmen and Cavalry (Can form Shield Wall)
Hiring cost: 5,000
Upkeep: 1,500

Men-at-Arms (Heavy Cavalry)
Stats: +1 against Light Footmen, can be dismounted.
Hiring cost: 8,000
Upkeep: 3,500

Yeomen Longbows
Stats: +2 against Light Footmen and +1 against Heavy Footmen
Hiring cost: 6,000
Upkeep: 2,000

Retinue
Knights
Stats: +2 against Longbowmen, +2 against Men-at-Arms and +2 against Footmen (+1 if in Shield Wall), can be dismounted
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000

Foreign Units
Infantry
Gallowglasses
Stats: +2 against Light Footmen and Longbowmen. +1 against Heavy Footmen
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000
Limit per char: 4 units max

Switzers
Stats: +3 against Cavalry. +2 against Light and Heavy Footmen.
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000
Limit per char: 4 units max

Cavalry
Border Reivers
Stats: +2 against Longbowmen
Hiring cost: 10,000
Upkeep: 3,500
Limit per char: 2 units max

Gens d'Armes
Stats: +3 against all units
Hiring cost: 12,000
Upkeep: 4,000
Limit per char: 2 units max

Coutiliers
Stats: +2 against Light Footmen and Longbowmen
Hiring cost: 10,000
Upkeep: 3,500
Limit per char: 2 units max

Gunpowder
Handgunners
Stats: +3 against all units (only if the units are right in front of them)
Hiring cost: 15,000
Upkeep: 7,500
Limit per char: 2 units max

Cannons
Stats: +3 against walls (ineffective in field battles, chance for +1 or -1 roll)
Hiring cost: 20,000
Upkeep: 10,000
Limit per char: 1 unit max

*Foreign units can only be hired after militia and professional troops are mustered. Only hired for battle, cannot be hired otherwise.
*Livery and Maintenance can only be made up of Heavy Footmen, Yeomen Archers and Men-at-Arms. Just as Retinue can only be made up of Knights.

What do you guys think?

[Jokern]

Everything looks fine to me.

[Barry Goldwater]

I approve in general, though I think Switzers should get a +3 against cavalry instead of longbowmen.