Is there a reliable way to get rid of bad traits?

**TorqueSkeptic** · September 20, 2016, 06:44 PM

I hate it when my Lords randomly get bad traits like strict (if they're empire) or punter (if they're undead) etc. Some I use mainly as mobile garrisons so I don't mind so much, but if Franz or Mannfred get them I'd like to know if it's possible to erase them by winning more battles with them or something.

**The Holy Pilgrim** · September 20, 2016, 07:13 PM

Yes.

You must simply KILL the weakling.

There is no room for the lame in WARHAMMER!

**Beregond** · September 21, 2016, 05:18 AM

reload

**TorqueSkeptic** · September 21, 2016, 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by Beregond

reload

Trouble is, sometimes you may not realise immediately :/

**Darviathar** · September 22, 2016, 12:46 PM

How do you get GOOD traits is my question. In previous games, hanging out in areas with Scriptorium type buildings was the key, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

**drillmaster** · September 22, 2016, 01:01 PM

It appears you have to do what you re supossed to do. For example witch hunters assasinate stuff so they get good traits. Warrior priests heal/grow stuff so they get good traits. On the other hand if generals sit on their back side in a city they get bad traits. At least thats what i get. Dont know though.

**Darviathar** · September 22, 2016, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by drillmaster

It appears you have to do what you re supossed to do. For example witch hunters assasinate stuff so they get good traits. Warrior priests heal/grow stuff so they get good traits. On the other hand if generals sit on their back side in a city they get bad traits. At least thats what i get. Dont know though.

Yes, you get really good assassin traits by simply doing it long enough. I've yet to see the equivalent of (I kid you not) "Ham-Fisted murder" (a MTW2 trait) that resulted in botching too many assassinations.

My mage types that are constantly deployed in provinces (to reduce construction costs) frequently get perks to that after a while. What about battle traits? Playing as the VC, I cheerfully ride down each and every retreating stack that I can watch with my direwolves, but that doesn't seem to give the kind of "dread" traits that you'd quickly pick up in MTW2.

**drillmaster** · September 22, 2016, 02:22 PM

I know what you mean. I dont know if you can get theae things in here. I know for a fact though that the increase to local income traits are really amazing and make a difference.

**TorqueSkeptic** · September 22, 2016, 02:25 PM

Do you think it's possible to erase bad traits simply by completing enough actions capable of producing good traits?

**joeman_0** · September 23, 2016, 12:05 AM

I have no clue why I picked up bad traits. For example, my dwarf lords get "like Greenskins" trait. I was like WTF. Bethalthar Gelt gets "dishonest" trait which gives -5% to province income. I don't even know what he did to get that. I thought he is able to turn lead into gold which is like printing his own money. Then why does he need to be dishonest and take province income? This does not make sense.

**♔atthias♔** · September 23, 2016, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by joeman_0

I have no clue why I picked up bad traits. For example, my dwarf lords get "like Greenskins" trait. I was like WTF. Bethalthar Gelt gets "dishonest" trait which gives -5% to province income. I don't even know what he did to get that. I thought he is able to turn lead into gold which is like printing his own money. Then why does he need to be dishonest and take province income? This does not make sense.

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**Påsan** · September 23, 2016, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by joeman_0

I have no clue why I picked up bad traits. For example, my dwarf lords get "like Greenskins" trait. I was like WTF. Bethalthar Gelt gets "dishonest" trait which gives -5% to province income. I don't even know what he did to get that. I thought he is able to turn lead into gold which is like printing his own money. Then why does he need to be dishonest and take province income? This does not make sense.

Quite funny actually. Maybe he's a hoax and he just really likes to use gold paint on stuff?

I like random traits, gives more uniqueness to the character The best was in Med 2 where it was no skill trees and it was all random and action based how your generals personality grew. Skill trees are lame but they fit in warhammer due to the nature of the setting and it was awful in Shogun 2 where you could make the most amazing admiral in the world out of a general that has never seen the sea.

**Carl Jung was right** · September 26, 2016, 01:01 AM

You could just live with it. Do the negative traits matter that much? In Med II, having bad traits could be disastrous to the character and the units under his command - in WTW it's hardly even worth a mention. Most modifiers are so low they barely affect gameplay.

**IronBrig4** · September 27, 2016, 03:10 PM

What really gets me is when I try to pick a new general or hero and EVERY candidate is blind, crippled, or deaf. Seriously?! Across the length and breadth of the Empire, you can't find me someone who's not in the Paralympics?

**Slaists** · September 27, 2016, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Carl Jung was right

You could just live with it. Do the negative traits matter that much? In Med II, having bad traits could be disastrous to the character and the units under his command - in WTW it's hardly even worth a mention. Most modifiers are so low they barely affect gameplay.

There is a big difference between the fiscal handicap and good econ traits. Sure, once you're in mid-to-late game those do not matter anymore as you're likely swimming in cash.