"Doubtful courage" trait given wrongfully.

Thread: "Doubtful courage" trait given wrongfully.

  1. Dayve said:

    Default "Doubtful courage" trait given wrongfully.

    I know what's causing it. When your army, led by a general/family member, attacks an enemy army, you may have friendly reinforcements if another army is nearby. In my case rebels had spawned outside my city, so I sent an army to kill them and the reinforcing army from inside the city joined in. On the battle map this unit (just a unit of leves) entered the battle right behind the enemy army, so I clicked "withdraw" to send them back over the red line as I didn't need them.

    To clarify, I only withdrew the unit of leves that were not a part of my army - they were reinforcements from the city that I didn't need or want. My actual army, led by a family member, deployed for combat and defeated the enemy army, including the family member who was engaged in the battle from the moment melee combat was joined. First of all his unit and a unit of equites Romani chased away the enemy cavalry and light skirmishers, then turned to charge the rear of the enemy infantry, which routed the enemy army. After that the general and the equites chased down 600-something prisoners.

    But after the battle he got "doubtful courage".

    It's because I clicked withdraw on the reinforcing unit of leves.
     
  2. Dayve said:

    Default Re: "Doubtful courage" trait given wrongfully.

    Actually, scrap all of this. If ANY of your units break and/or route entirely from the battlefield during a battle, your leading general will get the "doubtful courage" trait. I've tested it in like 5 different battles now, purposely sending one unit of my army forward toward the entire enemy army, and engaging the entire enemy army with that one unit so that it gets destroyed and routes.

    Even if your army wins a crushing victory and your general proves himself to be possibly the bravest man that ever lived, if one piddly little unit of leves in your army runs away during combat your general can get "doubtful courage".

    It may not be every single time, but it has been every single time for me. Also I have a Roman game going now where every family member has the trait "doubtful courage" because it was they who tested this
     
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    webMaster412160 said:

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    Woa that sucks man, hopefully they'll fix in next patch.
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    QuintusSertorius said:

    Default Re: "Doubtful courage" trait given wrongfully.

    I think the root of the issue is here:

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    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle5_brave
      WhenToTest PostBattle
    
      Condition Routs
    		and Trait Brave > 0
    
      Affects Brave -4  Chance  100
    
    ;------------------------------------------
    Trigger battle5_coward
      WhenToTest PostBattle
    
      Condition Routs
    		and Trait Brave < 1
    
      Affects Coward  4  Chance  100
    This appears to be a completely unbounded trigger, but I don't know enough about traits to understand what's going on.
     
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    Finlander said:

    Icon1 Re: "Doubtful courage" trait given wrongfully.

    I'm not much into these things so knowledge is limited, but I was wondering if this would work:

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    Trigger battle5_coward
      WhenToTest PostBattle
    
      Condition IsGeneral
               and Routs    
                   and Trait Brave < 1
                    
    
      Affects Coward  4  Chance  100

    If I am not mistaken, changes to character_traits.txt are savegame compatable so up to you if you want to test it.
    Last edited by Finlander; September 16, 2016 at 07:13 AM.


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