Judex-Rex - The original thread

[grif]

AOR

Ready AOR (Area Of Recruitment) for the mod, obtained on the basis of full investigation late-ancient document
Notitia Dignitatum.
The mod will be their 40: 26 pieces for the Roman "federates" and 14 for all the factions that will capture this area and will be able to hire local special units.


Important information!
The first chapter is completely finished, we started to develop the second chapter!
This means that - the final version of the 014 in this chapter. Next version will be updated to version 020 - the second chapter mod.
Explanation: The version of the 015-019 will not be updated, now you have to wait for version 020!

[CROWNROBIN]

Great! Looking forward to the AOR.

By the way, I noticed that there are some small Chi-Rho symbols on Domestici Pedites' helmets, the detail is amazing! Will you overhaul other vanilla units in the future?

[grif]

Thank you!
Necessarily do it!
This is a project with the historical trend and the main task is to show the Roman and barbarian army in this period.
Currently, we have studied and deciphered 70-80% of the text Notitia Dignitatum:
http://late-roman.ru/notitia-dignita...inskie-chasti/
We plan to revive all units of the Roman army of the Notitia Dignitatum !!!
All that is deciphered. I repeat - it is 70-80% of the manuscript.
We can not yet about to count the number of units, the study continues, but I think there will be more than 500 units.

Following items we are now doing - line Milites 7-16 units.

[atademir]

Great mode


Thank you


How did you do that?

There are incredible details

Can you source?

I want to learn

Please

Thank you

[grif]

Thanks

Can you source?

Source Notitia Dignitatum

Historical education, research and text analysis - helped to understand and make brunch Roman units.
Soon we will show how it will look!

[CJiaBa]

Preview of some new patterns for the Romans. Please note that there are 2 types of shield: wooden and leather-covered and how differently they look

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[grif]

Version 0.1.6 - not updated!

We have studied and understood as the line should look like the historicity of the Roman army in a computer game and are ready to submit it!

Roman line of troops

Two types of armies, one of which with its division into castes. Each entry under more than one type of unit, and a large group of units of a class! The basis is taken from the number of units cohort, Equites, not classes parts - the legion, Auxilia and so on.! Below are the units in combat authority, from simple to complex.

Limitanei - frontier army
Milites, Numerus, Legionis (Legion, and the Legion is not!), Auxiliares, Equites, Cuneus equitum

Comitatensis - field armies; Army composed during the reign
Comitatensis: Legionis, Equites, Cuneus equitum, Comites
Palatina: Auxiliares, Legionis, Equites, Cuneus equitum, Comites, Schola

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The first group finished units milites, consists of 16 units, 13 of which are new!

Milites

Basic (hiring of construction of buildings):

defensores
armigeri
balistarii
praeventores
exploratores
superventores

AOP (hiring of cultural zones on the map):

cimbriani
dacisci
dalmatae
italici
mauri
menapii
moesiaci
nervii
scythici
tungricani


... Patch is very large, hence skipping within the meaning of the version. For the same reason, to put all the information, including screenshots is very difficult, so the screenshots will be presented a little later!

[grif]

Added two new types of animation: the sling with a spear and shield, crossbow with a spear and a shield.
Old number of units 50 and 120, the number increased to 100 and 200.
The old units are replaced on the shields of the new sample shields, even more high-quality.

Milites 16 units, 13 of which are new:



Milites defensores


Milites armigeri


Milites balistarii


Milites praeventores


Milites exploratores


Milites superventores


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Milites cimbriani


Milites dacisci


Milites dalmatae


Milites italici


Milites mauri


Milites menapii


Milites moesiaci


Milites nervii


Milites scythici


Milites tungricani

[grif]

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to Milites - since these figures are not represented in the Notitia Dignitatum, but being based on other pictures, similar in name, and if there are none then the others.

[grif]

Milites


Milites defensores
Defenzory [the Byzantine Empire] - 1) (defensores); the bulk of the infantry units that serve to support cursors if they fail when forced to retreat; 2) (defensores civitatum); created in the second half in IV. Institute of Civil advocates ordinary citizens from the arbitrariness of municipal councils (curiae) and imperial officials. They are appointed for 5 years by the Emperor or the praetorian prefect, and certainly not of the kurialov. Defenzory gradually concentrated in the hands of wide administrative and police law. They monitored the implementation of laws, especially in religious matters, gained control of the municipal police, and became one of the main responsible for order in the cities of the empire.
Byzantine dictionary: в 2 т. / [ сост. Общ. Ред. К.А. Филатова]. СПб.: Амфора. ТИД Амфора: РХГА: Издательство Олега Абышко, 2011, т. 1, с. 286.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from Fortenses (in Africa).

Milites cimbriani
Kimbriane - Germanic tribes of the Cimbri.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Cimbriani.

Milites dacisci
Dacian tribes.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Daci.

Milites dalmatae
Dalmata - the inhabitants of the province of Dalmatia.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Divitenses seniores.

Milites italici
Italica - the inhabitants of the Italian provinces.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions легионов Gacundani.

Milites mauri
Mauri - tribes Moors.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Mauri cetrati.

Milites menapii
Menapii - Belgian tribe, prov. Civitas Menapiorum, later became Civitas Turnencensium.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Menapii seniores.

Milites moesiaci
Residents of the province of Moesia.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Moesiaci seniores.

Milites nervii
Nerves - nerves tribes.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Nervii.

Milites scythici
Scythian tribes.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Scythae.

Milites tungricani
Tungrikany - tungrikanov tribes come from Belgian Gaul.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Tungri.

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1. Lancea (Latin lancea -. Spear) is a lightweight spear up to 2.5 m in length. These spears are common in archeology, in Lancea tip mostly small leaf-shaped.

2. In Greece and Rome, the sling was one of two main weapons of light, supporting the infantry. The second is - a variety of options for darts. The effectiveness of the sling was small, but in Europe sling stone bullets are used as weapons of war until the end of the XVI century.

3. Round shield is presented on a mosaic from the Piazza Armerina, traced on wood carving from Egypt, but in general is rare. It is based on the design of the shields Dura Europos и germans shields round.

4. The helmet is a type of infantry "Kammhelm", that are found in Intercisa.

5. The basis is taken tunic Tunica Manicata, some pieces of which were found in Egypt and date back to the 5th century, as well as presented on a mosaic from the Roman villa Piazza Armerina.

[grif]

Milites balistarii

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Secunda Flavia Virtutis.

1. Lancea (Latin lancea -. Spear) is a lightweight spear up to 2.5 m in length. These spears are common in archeology, in Lancea tip mostly small leaf-shaped.

2. Manubalist, manuballites - Roman analogue crossbow, whose predecessor was gastrofet. Although the spread is narrow, yet it was known in the Roman Empire. At the same time used in Byzantium. A testimony of this are some of the historical sources of antiquity. As the ancient Greek crossbow manubalist was already certain type of weapon, although it occupies a middle position between the bows and firearms .

3. Round shield is presented on a mosaic from the Piazza Armerina, traced on wood carving from Egypt, but in general is rare. It is based on the design of the shields Dura Europos и germans shields round.

4. The helmet is a type of infantry "Kammhelm", that are found in Intercisa.

5. The basis is taken tunic Tunica Manicata, some pieces of which were found in Egypt and date back to the 5th century, as well as presented on a mosaic from the Roman villa Piazza Armerina.
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Milites armigeri
Armigeri - Latin for armored, protected by armor.

Figures on the boards is not fictional, but do not belong to milites, since Notitia Dignitatum in military units these figures are not presented, as being based on the figures from the legions Fortenses (in Spain).

1. Lancea (Latin lancea -. Spear) is a lightweight spear up to 2.5 m in length. These spears are common in archeology, in Lancea tip mostly small leaf-shaped.

2. In Greece and Rome, the sling was one of two main weapons of light, supporting the infantry. The second is - a variety of options for darts. The effectiveness of the sling was small, but in Europe sling stone bullets are used as weapons of war until the end of the XVI century.

3. Round shield is presented on a mosaic from the Piazza Armerina, traced on wood carving from Egypt, but in general is rare. It is based on the design of the shields Dura Europos и germans shields round.

4. The helmet is a type of infantry "Kammhelm", that are found in Intercisa.

5. Lorica hamata, «Lorica hook", from the Latin. hamus «hook" - the type of mail armor used by the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire.

[CJiaBa]

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[grif]

Ready to reconstruction of the helmet of the Worms.
Left - complete reconstruction: silvered dome, with decorative silver balls on the crest.
The remaining alternative to the existing analogues: a second gold-plated and silver balls, the third just iron, the fourth - tired iron.



Reconstruction Author: grif
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Ready to reconstruction Unknown Visigothic helmet.



Reconstruction Author: CJiaBa

[CROWNROBIN]

Excellent! Glad to see these new progress!

[Majorien]

Hello Grif, this is really very nice.
But, in order to be historically accurate, two remarks:
- i hope your milites are wearing lorica hamata : most of the units you are actually showing were crack units with a great equipment, not only armigeri.
- when you say for instance that milites cimbriani are still soldiers from those tribes, it is false : with time the soldiers of those regular units were roman, with some barbarian enroled individually.
Keep on that massive ggod work !
For some info on different western unit, using a translator pluggin you can go there : https://comitatusgaulois.wordpress.com/

[grif]

CROWNROBIN
Thank you for your kind words!

Majorien
I fully agree with you! If I understand you correctly .. (I use only Google translator).

Most legionnaires had good armor! But this is not the legionnaires, these guys Milites!

cimbriani - not quite federates! That's right, they are trained in the Roman army. But we believe that it is not purebred Romans and not mercenaries. In Notitia all they have and are described by some historians.
Federate this Auxilia - they are not ready, and will be later.

[Alex De]

Wonderful mode

Excellent job

Thank you

[mhawari]

Hey bro, can i make 12 tpy submod for this mod ?

[Giwrgos Stamos]

first i am really happy to sse this kind of work and time u divote here,second i have a couple of questions are you planning an update and if will be save game compatible because i reaaally want to start a campaign with this project

[grif]

Hey bro, can i make 12 tpy submod for this mod ?

Oh sure! You can make sub-mod!
By the way, we need developers to team! The only rule - historicity!

first i am really happy to sse this kind of work and time u divote here,second i have a couple of questions are you planning an update and if will be save game compatible because i reaaally want to start a campaign with this project

Soon we will present version 019.
Available update will be in version 022 - Chapter 2: Roman legions.
This is approximately 2 weeks.
You have to start a new campaign.