Subjugation issues.

[RecKooo]

Two matters I would like to draw your attention to. Has any balancing been made around Puppet States? I mean it's fine they don't necessiraly like you as your inferiors but this is just too much when your Puppets wage war against you every 10 turns just because they "feel opressed". I'm aware that they have no diplomatic initiative and thus are much more useful than Tribunary States but I think this thing should be balanced because right now Subjugating other factions is just not worth. Either you get a guy who will get wiped out anyway (because when you make them your Tribunary state, they don't sign peace treaty with every other faction as they are autonomous in terms of diplomacy) or you get a faction that either will rebel against you every 10 turns or require much more money to be gifted to them than you actually make out of tributes in order to keep good relations with them.

Second thing is: Will you make all subjugating options available for every faction? I know it might be not historically accurate but Imo it would do more good than harm

[Petellius]

We will have clients or subjugation available for all factions, we can make sure that puppet states ect have a better relationship with you when your faction leadership is strong, and have them likely to rebel when they think you are weak.

[servent9]

We will have clients or subjugation available for all factions, we can make sure that puppet states ect have a better relationship with you when your faction leadership is strong, and have them likely to rebel when they think you are weak.

Just another reply.

I hope Seleucid empire has no clients like Persia, dragiana, etc in Rome2.

cause I love large factions like rtw1. ( like in the pre-trailer of AE)

[RecKooo]

Will this be made in first release? :> Just curious

[Willhelm123]

We will definitely make efforts to fix the quite frankly very poor subjugation that Attila has, it's just a question of setting the right values. It might be in first release, but first release may be wildly unbalanced in a lot of areas, please remember it will be a beta and the players are also our testers, feedback will be appreciated.