US Presidential Election 2016: Hillary Clinton vs Donald Trump

[Diocle]

My wife and I are voting for him tomorrow.



I think this is a good place for this, from what I gather its running in several swing states.

God bless you Phier, God bless you! You and your wife you're good persons and good Americans! God bless you and your Country! Whatever happens at least you have done the right thing.

Thank you very, very much from Europe, the infamous and unfortunate stinking swamp, populated by Socialist Zombies and Stalinist vampires!

Good bless you Phier, God bless you and all those like you and God bless America!

[removeduser_487563287433]

The DNC has told the FBI it's offices have been bugged:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...ve-been-bugged

The last year I've enjoyed the repeated claims by the sexual assault supporters that every new story (never with new information) RE: the email server was another watergate. Or, more often, worse than watergate.

Now we have more or less another watergate it'll be interesting to see how they react (they won't, they will fail to respond and talk about Clinton is Satan).

Ofc, this close to the election the Dems will be throwing out everything they have and with everything so toxic and institutions like the FBI themselves partisan they may be willing to take a ask forgiveness later approach to these stories.

[Phier]

Mother Jones, sigh and someone complains about Breitbart?

Anyways onto some real news.

Another "rape victim" of Trump failed in court today...

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=000001...e-bbdf51aa0001

Shocking

America's Tolkien George RR Martin offers wise words about the election.

Tolkien had a lot less incest

Oh speaking of weird sex, did you know that occultist kook got a grant from the Clinton Foundation?



She gives back too!



There's more there to be found but I'm having far to nice a Friday night, its been a good day. Obama had to shout down a crowd of supporters. #spiritfood or dinner or whatever was #1 on twitter. Multiple swing states that were safe blue are now tied. Its like a gift of blood and semen from Moloch!

Maybe its too little too late, maybe they have another tape of Trump saying pussy or something for tomorrow. Maybe they will bring out a new fake rape victim to parade.

There isn't a single reason to vote Hilary other than shes not Trump. I could respect that if Hilary were anyone but Hilary. She's the epitome of all thats wrong with politics, not just in America but world wide. Its just hilarious watching these "leftists" flock to her, support her, worship her and seem to be oblivious/not care that shes everything they claim to be against.

Oh and the final fun of the day, CNN ran a piece today aimed at mormons apparently. Lets look!



Damn Trump and his support of gays and such! Thanks CNN!



Side note, even the usual biased polls have Trump up +10 in Utah. In play? Jebus...

[removeduser_487563287433]

Called the reaction of ignore it and talk about Clinton being Satan, heh me you somehow become more phiery every year

[snuggans]

so we must not elect Hillary because her foundation awarded a grant to a performance artist

ok ...

[removeduser_487563287433]

Also "not Trump" is actually a ing sound reason to vote for somebody. I mean McMullin seems within the restrictions of normality.

[Diocle]

so we must not elect Hillary because her foundation awarded a grant to a performance artist

ok ...

No, you should not elect the Witch just because she's a liar and a traitor.



Actually what's really surprising, even from Europe, possibly the most corrupt filthy corner of the planet, it's that her party has chosen such an indecent person as candidate for the Presidency of the USA.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Europe =/= Italy mate

[empr guy]

so we must not elect Hillary because her foundation awarded a grant to a performance artist

ok ...

I think that they're seeing the early votes come in and having a collective stroke. Even if this lady was a satanist and ate dinner with Podesta... so what?

I mean, maybe it's not the early vote, but I don't know what else has happened to cause this much brain damage in the alt right

[caratacus]

Latest from WikiLeaks, is that John Podesta considered the occupation of Ninewah, Iraq by IS, an opportunity for oil revenue.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/794722847776272384
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails...MfAZ7AdiAltApA

[Diocle]

The point is that she's a liar, and I still think (but I'm very outdated as political views) that a liar who is also a traitor cannot be elected President of the USA:

It's incredible the amount of lies vomited in the face of American citizens by this witch, as it's incredible the face of this witch when she's lying, as it's indecent the fact that everyone here well knows that you, me or any common citizen, for the thousandth part of her crimes, would be in jail for years ..



.. and .. her party is still supporting such a scum! Incredible!

Europe =/= Italy mate

Yeah, my dear, I know this, but now .. try to be chivalrous and gallant, and stop firing on the Red Cross, it's .. it's .. it's unfair, at least.

[ABH2]

There is nothing 'normal' in US politics about taking massive donations from foreign governments. Nothing. And no one in US history has ever taken as much money as Hillary. What's really troubling is that there are people who think words are more significant than that level of corruption.

I mean, we have people whining that Trump didn't release his tax returns, but meanwhile, Hillary fails to disclose donations from foreign actors that were in the millions while she was Secretary of State. We still can't be sure we know all of the foreign donations she's taken. And there are people who with a straight face can ask you why her scandals matter while clutching their pearls over remarks Trump made to Billy Bush when going to guest star on a soap opera.

Hillary is NOT run of the mill politician corrupt. She's off the charts. What's scary is that as a country we're at a point where people will excuse any level of corruption in public office based on partisan politics. Trump should be nowhere near the White House, but Hillary should be in jail. there's no other rational answer to this question.

[Ventos Mustel]

so we must not elect Hillary because her foundation awarded a grant to a performance artist

ok ...

Not even that, the Clinton Foundation made a contribution to the Annenberg Foundation which awarded a grant to a performance artist

[Cyclops]

So Trump is running an actual Satanic Panic attack? Must have some private polling showing he's hosed.

MFW when people can't distinguish Satanism from modern art. Next they'll be claiming the girl from Interior Semiotics is conducting a Lutheran mass.

[ABH2]

Oh this poor thing, someone else tell him who the republicans nominated, I don't have the heart

Trump lies. Every time he speaks, in fact. Or at least embellishes. But it would be great if I could hear one honest, substantive answer from a Hillary supporter where they explain why it's acceptable, or OK to be a sitting Secretary of State negotiating with the Chinese while at the same time their husband is being paid by the same Chinese government to advise them on their positions in the same talks. That's just one example of many things I'd like an honest answer to, but haven't gotten and won't get.

And the people who argue that she can't be indicted/charged because of lack of evidence...this is the country that incarcerated more people than any on the planet both in raw numbers and in terms of per capita (outside 1-2 very small exceptions). Something like 96% of the time when the feds charge someone, they force a plea deal. To hear mens rea used as a defense of Hillary's server is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. Not only because the Democrats rejected criminal justice reform recently specifically because of a mens rea clause, but because it's a question that prosecutors pretty much never even bother to ask when charging people with crimes that actually do require intent. Evidence that showed intent with regards to Hillary were disregarded.

You cannot, in good faith and with actual experience with our criminal justice system, argue that they could not build a case against Hillary for any number of the laws she has broken. The difference is that where as a prosecutor is normally looking for ways they can charge someone, the nebulous concept of justice be damned, with Hillary the prosecutors and even some investigators are looking for reasons not to do so. They are approaching it with the exact opposite mindset that they normally would.

I'd be perfectly fine with Comey's sophistry if it was the sort regularly employed by law enforcement in this country. But no one speaking honestly and frankly on the matter can say that's true. We live in a country where law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, and politicians have rigged the game. A country where most Americans commit felonies daily without even realizing it, and where a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich if they want to. Laws are added to the books and worded so broadly that prosecutors often find creative new ways to employ them that go well beyond the bounds of what the initial intent of the laws were. They love to overcharge people to force plea deals. And this isn't just for 'normal' people. Even the wealthy and powerful occasionally get railroaded.

The treatment of Hillary is nothing more than an example of tribal partisan politics combined with a 'too big to jail' mentality. It's sickening. And if the only other legitimate option to that is a guy who speaks at a fifth grade reading level and who speaks off the cuff, then so be it. It will show people just how not important the presidency actually is. Our federal government is so large at this point, it runs on auto-pilot and can't be killed even if the president is determined to do so. Trump is not. Other arguments boil down to hysterical fear mongering.

I will not be voting this election despite my vote counting for more than most seeing as I live in perhaps the most critical swing state in the country. I don't believe in voting in general. I don't support Trump or agree with him on very much of anything. But there is zero doubt in my mind which of the two outcomes I'd prefer. And it goes well beyond my normal hatred of progressives and left wing politics. It's beyond partisan politics. There is no legitimacy left to America's Republic if Hillary wins even if the gears of the beast continue to turn as if everything is normal. A Republic's most important and defining characteristic *is not* democracy. It is the rule of the law.

[the_mango55]

There is nothing 'normal' in US politics about taking massive donations from foreign governments. Nothing. And no one in US history has ever taken as much money as Hillary. What's really troubling is that there are people who think words are more significant than that level of corruption.

I mean, we have people whining that Trump didn't release his tax returns, but meanwhile, Hillary fails to disclose donations from foreign actors that were in the millions while she was Secretary of State. We still can't be sure we know all of the foreign donations she's taken. And there are people who with a straight face can ask you why her scandals matter while clutching their pearls over remarks Trump made to Billy Bush when going to guest star on a soap opera.

Hillary is NOT run of the mill politician corrupt. She's off the charts. What's scary is that as a country we're at a point where people will excuse any level of corruption in public office based on partisan politics. Trump should be nowhere near the White House, but Hillary should be in jail. there's no other rational answer to this question.

The Clinton foundation is a tax exempt charity that has to disclose everyone who donates, who are you claiming they took a donation from they didn't disclose?

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors

Furthermore, as a charity, they will take money from anyone willing to give it. And the Clinton Foundation does good work, unlike Trump's charity which is basically a tax free ATM for Trump.

I mean hell, he paid his son's $7 boy scout membership fee out of his damn charity, how pathetic is that.

http://heatst.com/world/donald-trump...m-his-charity/

[snuggans]

you just typed all of that crap up, have no evidence to show for it, and then after getting on the high horse of "muh rule of law" you suggested that Trump is fine as a last resort ... the guy who regularly craps on the law and actually gets caught endlessly

"this is not partisanship" lol yeah it is, you actually enjoy obstructionism and shutting down the federal government and lopping off entire departments which keeps the deplorables in line. stop pretending it's about the rule of law, the Democratic Party is the one with the moral advantage here, not the rest of you which had to be dragged by the ear every single freaking time, whether it was the civil war, jim crow, civil rights movement

you can't claim western civilization is so much more progressive than Muslims if you hate progressivism and the people voting for Trump didn't contribute anything to secularism or civil liberties

[removeduser_487563287433]

Good news in NC where a federal judge has ordered the state to restore voters purged from the ballot list, following an emergency hearing in response to the NAACP suing the state.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58...b0e80b02ca2471

I don't expect any sexual assault supporters to be in favour of this victory over vote manipulation, despite their claims of concern of fraud two weeks ago.

[empr guy]

So Trump is running an actual Satanic Panic attack? Must have some private polling showing he's hosed.

Early voting totals suggest Hispanics are building a large wall between trump and the presidency, so theres that

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In another of my posts; "Try to get the deplorable to discuss a policy, once" Donald has announced he wants to privatise roads and bridges in the United States.

America's infrastructure is famously not the pride of the nation: Donald himself has brought attention to this, and promised to fix them all. But of course, he's promised to cut Government spending and cut the deficit:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/...d_bridges.html

So looks like this is the bad idea they've come up with for that. Move the spend to the pockets of the average American, and reduce the essential infrastructure of the USA to a for-profit operation.