GATHER THE WAR-HERDS! THE BEASTMEN COMETH!!!

[RGA]

All campaign dlcs:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/34...snr=1_5_9__405
http://store.steampowered.com/app/34...snr=1_5_9__405
http://store.steampowered.com/app/27...snr=1_5_9__405
http://store.steampowered.com/app/26...snr=1_5_9__405
http://store.steampowered.com/app/32...snr=1_5_9__405

just think again about price, pls

You forgot the day of Empire and Napoleon Total war when campaign DLC cost only 8 euro

[joedreck]

18 Bugs for a handfull new units and copied things and mixed from other factions!?

So 3 new 80% copied factions will cost same as a New game!? No one of my friend will buy a Total War game. Never!! That one who did said, he is very disappointed now to pay 200 Bugs at the end maybe to have full game. This will be his first and last TW.

Sad!! Bad idea to hold and grow up clients.

10 bugs would be ok for him and me.

P.S. take my 10 bugs and keep the Mini campaign. I don't need it.

[Markas]

18 Bugs for a handfull new units and copied things and mixed from other factions!?

So 3 new 80% copied factions will cost same as a New game!? No one of my friend will buy a Total War game. Never!! That one who did said, he is very disappointed now to pay 200 Bugs at the end maybe to have full game. This will be his first and last TW.

Sad!! Bad idea to hold and grow up clients.

10 bugs would be ok for him and me.

I'm pretty sure you can't pay in bugs.

[HouND_DoG]

$18 is steep :/

[Lionheart11]

18 Bugs for a handfull new units and copied things and mixed from other factions!?

So 3 new 80% copied factions will cost same as a New game!? No one of my friend will buy a Total War game. Never!! That one who did said, he is very disappointed now to pay 200 Bugs at the end maybe to have full game. This will be his first and last TW.

Sad!! Bad idea to hold and grow up clients.

10 bugs would be ok for him and me.

P.S. take my 10 bugs and keep the Mini campaign. I don't need it.

Next after that when droves of teenagers flock with cheeseburger cash arguments, comes the pay to play $$$ or season pass $$$ and people will still be smiling and gay, saying what a great day this is. Probably comes free with bugs mate .

[LinusLinothorax]

$18 is steep :/

Aye, the prices are in Paradox-ish spheres by now.

[daelin4]

Are 17 bucks normal for a faction dlc?

To be fair, it comes with a minicampaign, plus it's not like the faction is a rehash of old material, it's a new race with new voices, etc.

But yes, all that said, it's still expensive for a faction DLC. They'd probably make more and justify the slightly higher cost if only it had more content, ie it also came with Skaven, or it has very different mechanics involved (which doesn't seem to be the case reading over the steam page).

In any event, if price is too high then just wait for Christmas sales or whatever. Heck I bet three months after release it will be on super discount, IIRC Rome2 was like that.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

Yes, it's kind of expensive and I'll be waiting for a sale for sure, but it's not oppressively overpriced. It's a new faction, with new voice acting, new animations, new battle maps, a complete new mini-campaign, new spells, etc. It's a lot more work than other campaign DLCs they've done, and only a few dollars more. Not a big deal.

[C.Maximus]

So I think it is a bit expensive too however..... Comparing it to previous faction DLC's I actually think this one gives more bang for its buck then most. Take a really good one (Empires of the Sand) for Attila. It gave 3 factions over the 1 faction this one gives. However.. In order to make this faction the designers had to only modify already made human/horse/camel models and design some new clothing for them. They then only had to make 1-2 unique units for each faction and the rest is campaign map changes (bonuses and such)...

Humans always will be humans and it is easier to do 5 human faction then create an entirely new race with new models, creatures, animations, and on top of that a mini campaign AND new campaign mechanics... I was interested to see how they were going to do new factions in warhammer due to this. I mean there is a tomb kings mod but I am waiting for the official tomb kings dlc because the egyptian looking models do not exist in the game.

All and all.. I am excited and most likely will NOT wait for a sale to pick this up unlike I have done with every other dlc.... Mainly because there is so much more content then usual dlcs...

And to all the people who saying "This is the first evil faction I am interested in" you guys need to try the undead. Sending legions of skeletons to their doom is great.

[drillmaster]

Whats wrong with people? Of course its expemsive but whats so different that say Hannibal at the gates? Same romans same carthaginians 2 extra generic factions that nobody cared for and a new map. Just because you can complain about everything nowadays doesnt mean its smart to do so..... ill probably get this one.

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[axicup]

I'm a little bit concerned about the concentration of chaos forces in the north now. There are constant chaos invasions as is, and now there will be beastmen, and even more chaos corruption will be brought with them. The game needs a strong third side (and fourth, and fifth), but beastmen are just reinforcing one of the two.

I'm predicting full devastation of Empire's lands by turn 70 every game session, with no involvement from the player. :\

Edit: Increased Greenskins presence in the north could help, if they stayed truly neutral and were willing to fight anything.

[RGA]

I'm a little bit concerned about the concentration of chaos forces in the north now. There are constant chaos invasions as is, and now there will be beastmen, and even more chaos corruption will be brought with them. The game needs a strong third side (and fourth, and fifth), but beastmen are just reinforcing one of the two.

I'm predicting full devastation of Empire's lands by turn 70 every game session, with no involvement from the player. :\

Edit: Increased Greenskins presence in the north could help, if they stayed truly neutral and were willing to fight anything.

Khazrak begins the Grand Campaign in the Tobaro Region of Estalia, while Malagor begins play in The Marshes of Madness, deep in the Badlands

That would solve your problem

[axicup]

That would solve your problem

Ooh, thank you, I read right through that one. Now they're willing to set up different starting positions for different Legendary Lords. Might be just for hordes.

Is it lore-friendly, though?

[FirstItGiveth]

Looks awesome, pre-ordered!

[Baron of Hyrule]

@axicup, Lore friendly enough. Beastmen inhabit all the old world forests and beyond. I think Lustria is the only place free of beastmen.

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Edit: my mistake, mistook Malagor for Morghur.

[Aenerion1]

From the 7th ed. army book:

"The Old World is the territory and the hunting ground of the Beastmen, lands they regard and refer to as their blood-grounds....Though the Beastmen dwell within the forests, they rarely stay in one location for long. Instead, they move from place to place along ancient paths within the territory of each warherd,....The vast forests of the Old World are crossed by a spider's web of paths only the Beastmen know. Where these paths cross, there is to be found a site that is in some way significant to the Cloven Ones. These beastpaths are located deep in the forests, far from the towns and highways of Man, yet they are far from hidden."

Further on the book describes many places and warherds in different locations all over the Old World. So yeah, anywhere within the Old World is lorefull, although Beastmen prefer forests.

The starting positions become more unlorefull though, with these specific LL's, where Khazrak is the most dangerous and powerful Beastlord in the Drakwald forest (I'm betting on the special campaign pitting him against his arch-enemy Boris Todbringer in and around the Drakwald). And Malagor is the doom of Mankind personified according to the Beastmen, which might make it strange to have him in Dwarf & Greenskin territory.
On the other hand, if their objectives are according to lore, you could assume that their starting positions are strategic to the campaign and certain factions, AND make for a sort of quest/journey for the LL's to get to the Drakwald/kill all mankind.

[Anna_Gein]

Oddly on the French steam page, there is no mention of a new campaign map but only "nouvelle histoire de campagne" = new campaign story. The German page only refers to a "Neue Storykampagne" too. Same thing on Italiano page and Spanish page. Respectively "Nuova Campagna storia" and "Nueva historia de campana". Is it the case in any other language ?

I suspect there is no new campaign map.

[Beregond]

What is this then? There are many more cities present than in the Grand campaign. Too bad that it'd probably be extremely short and that you can't play as Empire..

[Anna_Gein]

Strange.

I do not have Total War Warhammer. So I have no idea how the grand campaign map looks.

[Aenerion1]

Let's hope modders will make other factions also playable in that campaign.