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    Default Female Family Tree Pics

    Guys I just found those Female paintings that could work for all Muslim factions - from those in Spain to those in Persia and Volga Bulgaria and some of them even could work for for the Christian Orthodox factions from the Balkans and Russia. Those Pics will also IMHO negate all the controversy with the Muslim Women dresses and how they look compared with the rest of the world.

    What you think about it?Will they do the job for the Mod with some rework from Finix?



    Artist:Remzi Taşkıran - born in Turkish Kurdistan in 1961
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    Default Re: Female Family Tree Pics

    Great find

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    Why don't you want to add burkas? They are historical and aren't you guys trying to make a historical mod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Nomad 12 View Post
    Why don't you want to add burkas? They are historical and aren't you guys trying to make a historical mod?
    Whats wrong with the pics above?
    You really want burkas for all of them?
    All one and the same and nothing can tell what are the faces of each women and always asks the question:
    Why woman A is different from Woman B and how and with what?

    Its called variety and its for bigger immersion. Why waste when you got an opportunity like this?
    Last edited by FrozenmenSS; July 12, 2016 at 11:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenmenSS View Post
    Whats wrong with the pics above?
    You really want burkas for all of them?
    All one and the same and nothing can tell what are the faces of each women and always asks the question:
    Why woman A is different from Woman B and how and with what?

    Its called variety and its for bigger immersion. Why waste when you got an opportunity like this?
    I did not say I wanted all of them to have burkas but some should. Why not have different colored burkas so people can distinguish between different women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Nomad 12 View Post
    I did not say I wanted all of them to have burkas but some should. Why not have different colored burkas so people can distinguish between different women.
    You do realise burka's weren't forced upon the population back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckduvell View Post
    You do realise burka's weren't forced upon the population back then.
    I never said that. Many Muslim women still wore them and including no pictures with a burka is not historical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Nomad 12 View Post
    Why don't you want to add burkas? They are historical and aren't you guys trying to make a historical mod?
    I am muslim and I read Muslim kingdoms history, sometime yes, princess wearing burkas, I mean fully cover Their face, when go out. But let's accept the truth, in Abbasid dinasty and also in Ottoman dinasty, especially when they in the palace, not all princess always cover their face,

    I event can't imagine if I am a prince from Muslim dinasty or any Muslim family in palace meet a princess and she do not want to show her face, even in front of Sultan, it can be a conflict, after angry cause impoliteness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleeon View Post
    I am muslim and I read Muslim kingdoms history, sometime yes, princess wearing burkas, I mean fully cover Their face, when go out. But let's accept the truth, in Abbasid dinasty and also in Ottoman dinasty, especially when they in the palace, not all princess always cover their face,

    I event can't imagine if I am a prince from Muslim dinasty or any Muslim family in palace meet a princess and she do not want to show her face, even in front of Sultan, it can be a conflict, after angry cause impoliteness.
    The bottom line is that Muslim women wore them during that period.

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    Default Re: Female Family Tree Pics

    good find but I honestly don't see a single pic that could be used for Rus factions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beregond View Post
    good find but I honestly don't see a single pic that could be used for Rus factions

    well, maybe finix can make something with these, for the rus and probably byzantine as well:

    https://de.pinterest.com/pin/110549365830277078/
    https://de.pinterest.com/pin/389772542731034584/
    https://de.pinterest.com/pin/522347256762674641/ etc...

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    I have something in mind, before appearing this thread. So be patient
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    Georgian womens in medieval dress

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    for arab Factions:

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    A few variants in game should be like that.

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    Burkas wasn't really necessary back then for the Muslim noble women. They didn't even get out of palace why would they cover face and body that much? Burkas is necessary in some Muslim's belief not to attract men. In the palace mostly eunuchs were face to face with women. And by the way burkas wasn't very popular amongst Muslims back then.

    In my belief of Islam it is not a necessary thing though. Because it is ordered to women to cover their body only when they don't feel safe. So that men won't be attracted by women and there won't be any affairs or sexuel harrasment. If they feel safe they can wear whatever they want . It isn't popular in some modern countries too. For example in Turkey most people won't even know what burkas is when you ask them. Some people who were educated at Islamic schools(Imam Hatips) might know about it
    Last edited by OutsiderKK; August 01, 2016 at 10:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutsiderKK View Post
    Burkas wasn't really necessary back then for the Muslim noble women. They didn't even get out of palace why would they cover face and body that much? Burkas is necessary in some Muslim's belief not to attract men. In the palace mostly eunuchs were face to face with women. And by the way burkas wasn't very popular amongst Muslims back then.

    In my belief of Islam it is not a necessary thing though. Because it is ordered to women to cover their body only when they don't feel safe. So that men won't be attracted by women and there won't be any affairs or sexuel harrasment. If they feel safe they can wear whatever they want . It isn't popular in some modern countries too. For example in Turkey most people won't even know what burkas is when you ask them. Some people who were educated at Islamic schools(Imam Hatips) might know about it
    the site I posted a link to a few post up shows that the nobles did wear them back then. A few of the in game picture should be burkas. The rest should be like the pictures that the guy that started this thread found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Nomad 12 View Post
    the site I posted a link to a few post up shows that the nobles did wear them back then. A few of the in game picture should be burkas. The rest should be like the pictures that the guy that started this thread found.
    As I said, they didn't wear it in their daily life. They only wore when they had to leave the court. It is not necessary for us to see the way they dress when going abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutsiderKK View Post
    As I said, they didn't wear it in their daily life. They only wore when they had to leave the court. It is not necessary for us to see the way they dress when going abroad.
    They would wear a burka whenever they would go out into public. They should include them.

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    Hello genius!!! They didn't go into public that often, there is a reason why we are talking about witch portraits should be there. We need to be able to recognize the women when we look at the portrait.

    If you put burka you don't have to put women with faces. You either put a portrait with burka or many portraits with faces which shows the way they look in daily life. Mixing them up would be idiotic.

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