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    no thanks i prefer my wine and women, and i hazard a guess your iranian women would also like wine and women.

    also,
    how do you explain

    source: https://books.google.com.au/books?id...winter&f=false

    basically in iran it's more accepting of un-islamic sodomy in summer and straight sex in winter?
    then what's the deal with forcing gays to undergo sex changes?
    As i said most of Iranians dont act like what you think or what you wish.......
    Encyclopedia of Gay Histories and Cultures?Wow.Didnt know such of books even
    exist,why i explain you while i know you wont accept?Best way that you can find your answers is reading persian sources about what you need to know,not those that wrote by non-iranians or opositions.About those questions i must say that in islam homosexuality is a sin and mental illness and not consider as a human right or whatever and by law those who want to live more comfortable may want to do a sex change operation and those who do not want (a
    significant number of them) they must never reveal that they are sodomy.and what you mean by"in Iran its more accepting of un-islamic sodomy in summer and straight sex in winter?"Its more like a joke.Its not true man.And those tourists that are gay or les must reveal their relations and have sex in their private(non-proliferation).and you may ask why Revealing?Its because"Islam has forbidden the people of Sodom action because some reasons(Promoting sodomy.) and prevent the spread of AIDS and sexually transmitted diseases.
    http://www.islamquest.net/intro Another site for your questions about Islam
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    Samarkand looks nice.
    Istanbul is a bit too "modern" for my taste. I prefer the Persian style architecture of the other cities.

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    Hafez, Rumi and Saadi... weren't they all considered heretics?

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    Hafez, Rumi and Saadi... weren't they all considered heretics?
    By whom khomeini? Yes definately.

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    I mean at the time that they were alive.

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    Yes, I was also under the impression that pagans were not treated very well, and that Mohammad was not very fond of Jews when he realized they weren't going to convert but allowed most of them to live as Jews.
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    I've never studied any Persian poetry, though what did stick with me from summaries are odes to alcohol, and how my love's buttocks are like full moons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    I've never studied any Persian poetry, though what did stick with me from summaries are odes to alcohol, and how my love's buttocks are like full moons.
    If you read one of Mulavi(Rumi)'s poem about how a bondwoman killed by a donky's dick you will die because of so much laughing.but you will also find Rumi's mystical themes in that poem.

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    You have just heard about slang poems.most of the Persian poems are about God , theology and love.and of course there are some facetiae, they are very funny and intersting specially Saadi's and Molavi's.
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    also, one more thing i forgot, people keep bringing up the young liberal demographics of Iran as if it was some trump card, as if Saudi Arabia doesn't have one too, which by the way has more freedom than the Iranian counterpart because young liberal Saudis go on exchange to western countries all the time and become even more liberal, whereas most Iranians who are abroad are there because they fled
    In reality, however, Iran has also discovered the revolutionary practice of sending her students abroad, preferably in the US (almost 10 thousands). Of course, we can pretend that student exchange programs are a clever stratagem, which helps the poor Iranians to run away from the claws of the Revolutionary Guard, but unless these claims are supported by evidence, they will sound more like xenophobic paranoia than sensible arguments.
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    Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, children, many of whom have very ambitious expectations instead of professional qualifications, due to the fact that school books are mainly busy teaching hatred against infidels, are religiously indoctrinated and essentially forced to endorse the official religious propaganda (because a state which sells condoms near the Kaaba can not be very sincere about its piety), therefore getting discourage to overthrow the prevailing royal establishment. Even if they did, though, thanks to the education system, the religious bigotry of the Saudis' successors is guaranteed, which is why the kingdom is really, really doomed.
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    I admit, however, that the dynasty is sometimes willing to provide for women...
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    Iranian stealth tank
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    Lol,but Maybe its better not to call it a tank.Its more like a light strategic vehicle usefull for some operations on the battlefield.As we know tanks usually have more armor and they are obviousley slower.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-HE5wRz84 From california




    Castle Rudkhan,Fooman,Gilan


    Azadi tower,Tehran





    A beautiful view of the architecture of mosques in Iran
    Last edited by zarmehr; July 03, 2016 at 08:44 PM.

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    Some videos from Iranian music and history:
    http://www.aparat.com/v/F0LIe
    Iranian kingdoms since 3200BCE(song's name is"O fatherland,you are still glorious")

    http://www.aparat.com/v/HDtsx
    Iranian traditional music(song's name is "The soil of the fatherland")

    http://www.aparat.com/v/4o7nj
    song's name is "Na,Naro(No,Don't go)"

    I always wanted to listen to a romantic Japanese,German and Chinese music because these languages sound a little rough to me.If any one is from these countries please send one.I did not find something worthy on internet.
    Last edited by Heidar; July 03, 2016 at 04:14 PM.

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    Not an answer. My question stands.

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    Hello dear friend
    Fardin won't be available for about 2 weeks.If it's not a problem to you I'll try to answer to your question.
    At the first place I want to prove that Quran is only from the God and No human is able to write such a book.
    أَفَلَا يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ وَلَوْ كَانَ مِنْ عِنْدِ غَيْرِ اللَّهِ لَوَجَدُوا فِيهِ اخْتِلَافًا كَثِيرًا (نساء 86)
    translation:Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.

    «أَمْ يَقُولُونَ افْتَرَاهُ قُلْ فَأْتُواْ بِعَشْرِ سُوَرٍ مِّثْلِهِ مُفْتَرَيَاتٍ وَادْعُواْ مَنِ اسْتَطَعْتُم مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ» (هود، 13)
    translation:Or they may say, "He forged it," Say, "Bring ye then ten suras forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsoever ye can, other than Allah!- If ye speak the truth!

    «*أَمْ يَقُولُونَ افْتَرَاهُ قُلْ فَأْتُواْ بِسُورَةٍ مِّثْلِهِ وَادْعُواْ مَنِ اسْتَطَعْتُم مِّن دُونِ اللّهِ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ*» (یونس، 38)
    translation:Or do they say, "He forged it"? say: "Bring then a Sura like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can besides Allah, if it be ye speak the truth!"
    Bring the things that the God said if you can!
    And now I'll put some miracles of Quran:
    أَلَمْ نَجْعَلِ الْأَرْضَ كِفَاتًا ﴿۲۵﴾
    translation:We made the earth with the gravitation(mentioning to the gravity of earth 1100 years before the Newton)

    وَهُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ كُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ ﴿۳۳﴾
    translation:And He is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.(mentioning to the orbits of planets and moving of the stars)

    خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ بِغَيْرِ عَمَدٍ تَرَوْنَهَا وَأَلْقَى فِي الْأَرْضِ رَوَاسِيَ أَنْ تَمِيدَ بِكُمْ وَبَثَّ فِيهَا مِنْ كُلِّ دَابَّةٍ وَأَنْزَلْنَا مِنَ السَّمَاءِ مَاءً فَأَنْبَتْنَا فِيهَا مِنْ كُلِّ زَوْجٍ كَرِيمٍ ﴿۱۰﴾
    translation:He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.(mentioning to the both sex(male and female) of the plants 1200 years before Carl Nilsson)

    فَمَنْ يُرِدِ اللَّهُ أَنْ يَهْدِيَهُ يَشْرَحْ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ وَمَنْ يُرِدْ أَنْ يُضِلَّهُ يَجْعَلْ صَدْرَهُ ضَيِّقًا حَرَجًا كَأَنَّمَا يَصَّعَّدُ فِي السَّمَاءِ كَذَلِكَ يَجْعَلُ اللَّهُ الرِّجْسَ عَلَى الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿۱۲۵﴾
    translation:Those whom Allah (in His plan) willeth to guide,- He openeth their breast to Islam; those whom He willeth to leave straying,- He maketh their breast close and constricted, as if they had to climb up to the skies: thus doth Allah (heap) the penalty on those who refuse to believe.(mentioning to the lack of oxygen in the sky near space)

    Do you accept this book is only from the God or I should bring you more?
    إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِالذِّكْرِ لَمَّا جَاءَهُمْ وَإِنَّهُ لَكِتَابٌ عَزِيزٌ ﴿۴۱﴾
    translation:Those who reject the Message when it comes to them (are not hidden from Us). And indeed it is a Book of exalted power. (۴۱)

    لَا يَأْتِيهِ الْبَاطِلُ مِنْ بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَلَا مِنْ خَلْفِهِ تَنْزِيلٌ مِنْ حَكِيمٍ حَمِيدٍ ﴿۴۲﴾
    translation:No falsehood can approach it from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.

    هُوَ الَّذِي أَنْزَلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ مِنْهُ آيَاتٌ مُحْكَمَاتٌ هُنَّ أُمُّ الْكِتَابِ وَأُخَرُ مُتَشَابِهَاتٌ فَأَمَّا الَّذِينَ فِي قُلُوبِهِمْ زَيْغٌ فَيَتَّبِعُونَ مَا تَشَابَهَ مِنْهُ ابْتِغَاءَ الْفِتْنَةِ وَابْتِغَاءَ تَأْوِيلِهِ وَمَا يَعْلَمُ تَأْوِيلَهُ إِلَّا اللَّهُ وَالرَّاسِخُونَ فِي الْعِلْمِ يَقُولُونَ آمَنَّا بِهِ كُلٌّ مِنْ عِنْدِ رَبِّنَا وَمَا يَذَّكَّرُ إِلَّا أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ ﴿۷﴾
    translation:He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.

    وَهَذَا صِرَاطُ رَبِّكَ مُسْتَقِيمًا قَدْ فَصَّلْنَا الْآيَاتِ لِقَوْمٍ يَذَّكَّرُونَ ﴿۱۲۶﴾
    translation:This is the way of thy Lord, leading straight: We have detailed the signs for those who receive admonition.
    May the Allah Guide you!
    Last edited by Heidar; July 05, 2016 at 09:49 AM.

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    Recently met three Iranians that came to do their doctorate in physics on my country. Really nice and intelligent people.


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    If I travel to Iran is there any chance that I might get arrested? I heard that a man got arrested for having sex with a local girl, I'm not making promises but I'm pretty sure that I will not break any real laws.
    Though it would be cool to visit some of these cities. Also some of the forests and deserts look cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Oda Nobunaga View Post
    If I travel to Iran is there any chance that I might get arrested? I heard that I man got arrested for having sex with a local girl, I'm not making promises but I'm pretty sure that I will not break any real laws.
    Though it would be cool to visit some of these cities. Also some of the forests and deserts look cool.
    Are you kidding me?get arrested?
    Just respect the laws like every other country you visit then you'll find nothing but friendliness and hospitable people even the policemen will greet you.
    If you really want to visit Iran I'll gladly send you the experience of the other tourists who have visited Iran:
    http://www.goatsontheroad.com/irania...ce-people-say/
    http://www.travelgeekery.com/iran-an...#axzz4DPeGTKA2
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...fNpRzXze42hY9A
    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/09/2...eign-tourists/
    here is travel tips:
    http://www.destinationiran.com/travel-tips
    http://www.heartmybackpack.com/blog/travel-tips-iran/
    http://thecitylane.com/10-tips-you-s...visiting-iran/
    http://www.roughguides.com/article/travel-to-iran/

    And remember this from me :learn how to taarof!just google it.
    watch the videos that Fardin has sent in the first post that was made by tourists
    here is the laws you must not break:forget about sex with locals and wine and alcohol but the second one is not that decisive just do the second one in private(if you even could find wine)and the most important thing is do not take photos of military and nuclear bases even if you do and they find out they'll just delete the photos and nothing more.
    Last edited by Iskar; July 04, 2016 at 05:39 AM. Reason: personal reference removed

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    If you plan on screwing the local Muslims, the primary reasons for getting caught is if the counter intelligence agency is tailing you, and they think it's worthwhile either blackmailing you or your country, or her relatives feel their family honour has been impugned when they find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post
    If you plan on screwing the local Muslims, the primary reasons for getting caught is if the counter intelligence agency is tailing you, and they think it's worthwhile either blackmailing you or your country, or her relatives feel their family honour has been impugned when they find out.
    Hey guy please watch your language!we are not kidnappers to blackmail anyone!
    If you bother yourself and read the blogs I sent you'll know who are you dealing with!

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