Clearing Up Misconceptions about IRAN

[Fardin]

It's always the same story: a man (I'm not aware of women doing that, interestingly. Maybe they're not important to the gods?) claims to have received some kind of message from some god, instructing his followers and making the new "prophet" rich and powerful in the process. Of course, everything these prophets teach (supposedly God's word) only conforms to their own educational background. Take Mohammad, or Joseph Smith, or L. Ron Hubbard. In fact, I suspect that all religions, including Judaism and Christianity, were founded this way. The recurring pattern is just too obvious. The difference is that some are more aggressive than others.

OK!I'll prove it to you.
1. Our Prophet was illiterate before he was chosen by God.So he could not write such a perfect book like Quran.
2. Every historian and history books proves that he was a honest,good-tempered and trustworthy man.Even all of the Arabs were fascinated by his morality and behaviors.so how could be possible a man like our prophet be a liar?
3. After his appointment by the God many nobles of Arabs promised him wealth and women and so on but he said: "If you put the sun on my right hand and put the moon on my left hand,I won't stop inviting and guiding people to the right path".After that They started to annoy and harrasment even they banished him and muslims to a desert without any food for three years.In those years only the prophet's wife (Lady Khadija) and his uncle Abu Talib(Imam Ali's father) helped muslims to survive that situation but many muslims died there.even after those horrible things that happened to him he did not stop guiding people.
4. After all he did,he did not expect any reward or wealth from any one just like the prophets before him.He suffered from many problems on his path to achieve what?You can not answer this question by any other sentence but "Guiding the people to the right way".

Our human rights record is far from perfect, but it's still better than yours.

Our only human rights issue from your view is free sexual relationships and nothing else.But look at yours!Hiroshima and Nagasaki,Iraqis civilians,Afghani civilians,Vietnamies civilians and......
Should I mention exactly what your governments did to these or you know it?

Historically, some Palestinians were involved in the Holocaust, but anyway they are of course only guilty of their own deeds, like everyone else. Also, why do you care more about Palestinians and Israel than about fellow Iranians like Kurds or Tajiks and the persecution they are facing?

haha,Holocaust is nothing but a lie! Even if it was true you must have built Israel in Germany not in Palestine,You see?it is just like a joke!
We care about every muslim.What do you mean by persecution?

No, but it's Muslims - including some Iranians - who are invading my country and a few others beside under the guise of "seeking refuge from persecution", and are leading the current crime statistics percentage wise in almost every category.

where are you from?If you anwer I'll answer.As I said before the propaganda and west's media affects both the Iranians and the western people.You imagine Iran as the Axis of Evil and the birth place of terrorist and Iranians imagine the west as a paradise.
Me , my family , my relatives , my friends , my friend's friends and... have not seen or heard anything about persecution in Irans prisons but we have seen the videos of torture and beating up people by CIA or soldiers or the police force in USA and western countries many time in TV and on internet.

Who does? Certainly not Western countries.

OK,the African tribes provided them with these advanced weapons.

I'm judging people and groups of people by their deeds. And so far, the Islamic Republic of Iran has killed, tortured, raped, or exiled many good Iranians.

Oh really?Proof?western medias?fox new?BBC?or CNN?

Exactly, so what's your problem with Israel?

We know them as a usurper of muslim lands and killer of children and civilians.these problems are not enough?We do not have any porblem with Jews.we want to eleminate Israel's regime not their people.

It's funny you say that actually because a guy who ran away from Saudi Arabia told me that when a Jew dies they shout Allahu Ackbar and when a Persian dies they also shout Allahu Ackbar.

No,Reza says the truth.They believe if they kill 7 Shias they will go to the heaven.

I'm pretty sure you know this is BS, Saudi Arabia is at least as bad as Iran, I haven't seen any Iranians murdered for "practicing magic" when their slave owners get tired of them. Not to mention SA's state religion is wahhabism, which is the foundation of groups like isis and al qaeda. SA's response to the refugee crisis? They'll generously build mosques in Germany, so that they can fund the next wave of wahhabi terrorists that are EU citizens! Iran also has a path to moderation in the next few decades, SA's monarchy means that it will take generations to fix the country if you don't want it to collapse completely.

Nice and true words.

I think I prefer an Iranian mullah any day over one of those inbred Saudi royals.

Now I have a question from you!What do you know about mullah?I am very curios.

I think you're very confused, the saudis being useful doesn't mean their country isn't a repressive hole.The Iranian government being retarded doesn't mean their objectively less (but still) country is worse then the Saudis. As for daesh being a relevant threat, Do you think it's Iran thats promoting the radical wahhabism that's used as a theological basis throughout the world?

You have gained a pretty good view about middle east.
Do me a favor budy.please do not compare Iran with those filthy Wahhabies!It's a shame to see Iran is being compared with...

[Fardin]

Some video clips made by tourists who visited Iran:
http://www.aparat.com/v/vUeYg
http://www.aparat.com/v/CiqSn

[Condottiere 40K]

12th Imam
The 12th Imam: What Is An Imam?
What is the 12th Imam? According to Islamic belief, an Imam is an anointed leader or ruler. Especially among the Shia beliefs an Imam is thought (though not required), to be a prayer leader or cleric when the word is capitalized. Sunnis too believe an Imam may be a prophet; Shiites believe not all prophets can be an Imam but an Imam can also be a prophet. An Imam is said to be anointed by Allah and a perfect example of leading mankind in every way.

The Shiite interpretation is that only Allah can appoint an Imam and no man has the power to do so. The 12th Imam is said to be a descendent of the Prophet Muhammad, having divine status as did each of this succession of sons. The 12th Imam is also called the Hidden Imam and the Mahdi (guided one).

The 12th Imam: Who Is The 12th Imam?
Within the Shiite, (which is predominate in Iran), it is prophesied that there is a coming 12th Imam who is the great spiritual savior. This Imam is named Abu al-Qasim Muhammad or also called Muhammad al Mahdi. He is said to have been born the son of the 11th Imam, Hasan Al-Askari and his wife, the granddaughter of an Emperor. There are conflicting statements of her name being either Fatima or Nargis Khatoon.

Most accounts of the story say that al Mahdi went into hiding as a child around the age of 5 years (about 13th Century). It said he has been ‘in hiding’ in caves ever since but will supernaturally return just before the Day of Judgment. According to the Hadith the criteria for the Hidden Imam are:

He will be a descendant of Muhammad and the son of Fatima
Will have a broad forehead and pointed nose
Will return just before the end of the world
His appearance will be preceded by a number of prophetic events during 3 years of horrendous world chaos, tyranny and oppression
Will escape from Madina to Mekkah, thousands will pledge allegiance to him
Will rule over the Arabs and the world for 7 years
Will eradicate all tyranny and oppression bringing harmony and total peace
Will lead a prayer in Mekkah which Jesus will be at his side and follow in
Remarkably, the 12th Imam theory plays heavily into the world’s current concerns with Iran. The Shiite Muslim President of Iran, Ahmadinejad, is deeply committed to the Islamic Messiah, al Mahdi. There have been many through the years claiming to be the Hidden Imam but Ahmadinejad believes he is yet to come. He claims that he is to personally prepare the world for the coming Mahdi. In order to save the world, it must be in a state of chaos and subjugation. Ahmadinejad claims he was “directed by Allah to pave the way for the glorious appearance of the Mahdi”. This apocalyptic directive includes some very scary proclamations.
The 12th Imam: Why Is This Especially Important Now?
While Christians look for Jesus’ 2nd coming, the Jews await the Messiah and Muslims await the 12th Imam. However, of the three, Allah’s designated Mahdi is the only one who demands a violent path to conquer the world. Mr. Ahmadinejad, and his cabinet, say they have a ‘signed contract’ with al Mahdi in which they pledge themselves to his work. What does this work involve? In light of concerns over Iran’s nuclear capabilities, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has reportedly stated Israel should be wiped off the map. He spoke to the United Nations in September ’05. During that speech he claims to have been in an aura of light and felt a change in the atmosphere during which time no one present could blink their eyes. Iran’s PM is also said to have spoken in apocalyptic terms and seems to relish conflict with the West whom he calls the Great Satan. This is while he proclaims he must prepare the world for the coming Mahdi by way of a world totally under Muslim control. He is working hard to bring about the world-wide horrors that must be in place for their al Mahdi to bring peace.

[Fardin]

Yes most of your words were true but:
1. Imams are chosen by Allah.They can not be prophet because a prophet takes his massages from the Angel named Gabriel.this is the difference between Imams and the Prophets.
2.Ahmadinejad has not signed any contracts with Imam Al Ghaaem Al Mahdi.This is a complete lie from you or from him.Many rulers claimed they are Imam Mahdi or they are related to him to use the people of Iran's beliefs in their own advantage like Shah Ismaeel The founder of Safavids Dynasty and so on.
3.Imam Mahdi will return when there is chaos in every part of the world specially middle east.But this chaos will be made by a man named Sofiani and the Dajjal the one eyed man.When he returns he will unite the Islamic nations and the whole world and of course there will be wars with evils from mankind.
4.When the Ahmadinejad says: we should prepare world and ourselves for his return; he does not mean we should unleash chaos in the world it is so ridiculous!He means we must increase our power and belief to stand beside Imam Mahdi to unite the whole world and bring peace to every where.
5.Most of world will be united without any wars when they see Jesus By Imam Mahdi's side and there will be wars as I said.
6.He will return when his 313 elite soldiers are ready and its predicted by Imam Ali that the most of them are from cities and villages of Iran.They will all gather in Mecca when Imam Mahdi announces his uprising and Jesus will say prayers behind him in Mecca.

[snuggans]

hello, i have a few questions about Iran:

- why is Iran "Shia nation-building" in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen through third-party jihadist militias, IRGC, Hezbollah, Quds Force, etc and by installing pro-Iranian figures to key positions?

- what role did Iran have in the emergence of daesh both by providing safe haven for top AQI figures such as al-Zarqawi and by oppressing Sunnis and Kurds while comitting many massacres within a few short years? what do you know about the relationship between Iran and al-qaeda branches in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

- why does Iran not give up their war against Israel?

- will there ever be a secular Iran, and if not, why?

- is Iran geared specifically for Persian Shias, to the great detriment of most other minorities?

- why did Iran take in the terrorist groups that were fleeing both the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan? (the country is positioned at the crossroads after all)

[Fardin]

hello, i have a few questions about Iran:

Finally!

- why is Iran "Shia nation-building" in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen through third-party jihadist militias, IRGC, Hezbollah, Quds Force, etc and by installing pro-Iranian figures to key positions?

Lebanon was the ally of Iran since the revolution and there is no shia building there.there are shias and sunnies and christians in the government of Lebanon.
Iraq has many shia,it's the second shia country after Iran.Shias in Iraq were oppressed by the past's governments.Shias are majority in Iraq(65%) so they are taking the key roles of their country just like people of other countries across the globe who are in majority.
Real Shias and the other branch of shias are also the majority of Yemen.they were oppressed by Saudi Arabs for many many years the government of Yemen were puppet states of those Wahhabies.Now they have the chance to rule their own country by themselves.Iran has no role in the events of Yemen.Now watch the Saudi Arabs crimes in Yemen!Every day they are bombing civilians and they are killing innocent women and children every day in Yemen.If you just look at Yemen,You'll realize how funny is the human rights and UN?United Nations are just puppets of USA and those filthy wahhabies.That Ban Ki Mon even had agreements and meeting with the war minister of Saudies.
The Syria situation is complicated a bit.When the whole world turned against Iran. The Asad's father supported Iran so we owed them and now we are helping them in retaliation of their favors to us.and the shrine of sister of Imam Hussain is in the Damascus and so many of our youths went there to protect there and to avoid the assult to her shrine.because the terrorists assulted the every shia holy places they captured so this is a serious matter to us.

- what role did Iran have in the emergence of daesh both by providing safe haven for top AQI figures such as al-Zarqawi and by oppressing Sunnis and Kurds while comitting many massacres within a few short years? what do you know about the relationship between Iran and al-qaeda branches in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

The ISIS or Daesh was created in USA military prisons.when their leaders were in US prisons they were allowed to meet every body unlike other prisoner and this is the suspicious thing about it.
Massacres that caused by Iran?Are you sure you are not talking about USA and his Allies?
The Taliban leaders think that they rule Afghanistan so they have started to negotiate with the neighboring countries and IRI will use any opportunity to stop the chaos and end the massacres.

- why does Iran not give up their war against Israel?

The Israel coquered muslim lands and caused many massacres in that area.they forced palestinians to leave their homes and lands.they are doing these crimes every day.We do not have any war with the Jews!they worship the God so they are not infidels but the Zionists are our enemy.I think it was 3 or 4 years ago that they bombed many schools,hospitals and houses in Ghaza.Do you know how many civilians were killed in those bombings?Israel is a coward and childkiller regime just like the Saudi Arabia.So now you tell me why we should stop our war with them?

- will there ever be a secular Iran, and if not, why?

I do not think so.Last year about 6 millions iranian youths went to the Iraq for mourning of our third Imam(Imam Hussain) who was killed innocently with all of his male familly members,friends,relatives and even his 6 months baby in the Karbala(these events happened 14 centuries ago).The rest of our people who could not go to the Karbala mourned in Iran for his anniversary.Iran population is about 75 milions.As you can see the most of us Love shia Islam and our Imams and the fomation of a regime with out religious beliefs seems impossible.

- is Iran geared specifically for Persian Shias, to the great detriment of most other minorities?

No,as I said in the first post there are many minority in Iran and even they have many seats in the parliament.My family and relatives are Kurds originally but they live in every part of Iran just like the others and our race is from Median Aryans.Iranians have lived together for thousands of years and we are all from one body and there is not any diffrence between religions and ethnics in Iran.Even the christians are allowed to drink alcoholic drinks in their ceremonies.

- why did Iran take in the terrorist groups that were fleeing both the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan? (the country is positioned at the crossroads after all)

I did not understand who did you mean!If Iran allowed the terrorists to get in;Iran would be like Iraq,syria or Afghanistan now.

What do you think about Wahhabiism? What do all of you guys think about it actually.

The Wahhabism is number 1 enemy of humanity!

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

What do you think about Wahhabiism? What do all of you guys think about it actually.

[reza_th1998]

What do you think about Wahhabiism? What do all of you guys think about it actually.

if your purpose iran, i should say iranian people are hate from isis and wahhabiism. and isis is wild animal really.

i should say in the laws wahhabiism if a wahhabis kill 6 irani(shia) goes to paradise.(lol)

with respect to people of syria and iraq i should say if counselor and military of iran not in there, syria and iraq fall now really.

syria and iraq are our brother really and attack to them attack to us really.

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

if your purpose iran, i should say iranian people are hate from isis and wahhabiism. and isis is wild animal really.

i should say in the laws wahhabiism if a wahhabis kill 6 irani(shia) goes to paradise.(lol)

with respect to people of syria and iraq i should say if counselor and military of iran not in there, syria and iraq fall now really.

syria and iraq are our brother really and attack to them attack to us really.

It's funny you say that actually because a guy who ran away from Saudi Arabia told me that when a Jew dies they shout Allahu Ackbar and when a Persian dies they also shout Allahu Ackbar.

[Condottiere 40K]

As long as their interests align, since Syria is ruled by the Alewite minority, resented by the Sunni majority, under the dictatorial Assad clan, that has to be financially and militarily subsidized, even when the Syrians were less revolting.

[Abdülmecid I]

As long as their interests align, since Syria is ruled by the Alewite minority, resented by the Sunni majority, under the dictatorial Assad clan, that has to be financially and militarily subsidized, even when the Syrians were less revolting.

However, facts seem to contradict your opinion. Syria is not a backward nation, being divided along religious lines and such an unfounded interpretation, product of the propaganda of bigoted Sunni Islamists, who wish to attract larger numbers of disgruntled Sunnis, of the civil war is flattering for neither the rebels nor the government. It would be physically impossible for the Syrian Army to fight against the absolute majority of the country's population. Even Shabiha, the Syrian state's militia, often accused of employing very brutal methods, is, in many places, largely composed of Sunnis, not to mention the current and pre-war Syrian leadership.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

https://freehalab.wordpress.com/2012...unni-shabbiha/

Even polls confirm the fact that a considerable portion of the sympathy expressed towards both Iran and Syria is derived from the Sunni majority.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/up.../syriadata.pdf

What do you think about Wahhabiism? What do all of you guys think about it actually.

Wahhabism is a bigoted, distorted version of Sunni Islam, which is particularly successful at poisoning the minds of the Sunni youth, due to its inherent radicalism and the unprecedented financial assistance received by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which views it as an efficient tool of increasing its influence. Wahhabism is the result of the social changes happening in Arabia during the 18th century, mixed with nomadic tribalism. Possibly it would have been evaporated, hadn't been for the support of the West, which considered it as a useful ally against the common Ottoman Imperial enemy and the weakness of the West's other puppet in the region, the Sharif of Mecca. It is a real pity that huge deserts are often simultaneously accompanied the domination of nomadic ideologies and the existence of rather profitable oil fields.

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Literally nothing included in your post addresses my points.

- why is Iran "Shia nation-building" in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen through third-party jihadist militias, IRGC, Hezbollah, Quds Force, etc and by installing pro-Iranian figures to key positions?

The Assad family existed long before the Islamic Revolution, the Iraqi government has been installed thanks to the welcome efforts of the American military and I wouldn't call the popular revolution in Yemen as a foreign intervention. Unless, of course, you consider the leadership of the FSA or SDF as Sunni nation building of the West and the Gulf monarchies...

- what role did Iran have in the emergence of daesh both by providing safe haven for top AQI figures such as al-Zarqawi and by oppressing Sunnis and Kurds while comitting many massacres within a few short years? what do you know about the relationship between Iran and al-qaeda branches in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

Pretty much none. I don't see how a man killed long before the emergence of ISIL has anything to do with it... Or why should we blame Iran for the mistreatment of the Sunni minority by the Baghdad government and not the police itself or the coalition that brought the government in power, in the first place. Or why the alleged mistreatment of Iranian Kurds is related to ISIL. Or the nonexistent alliance between Iran and the Al-Qaeda of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Let's not forget that Iran was not alone at assisting the Talibans, who are not the same with Al-Qaeda during the Soviet intervention... Regarding Pakistan, the only help offered to a terrorist group that I am aware of is that of America to the rebels of Baluchistan. Really shady business.

- why does Iran not give up their war against Israel?

They're not in war.

- will there ever be a secular Iran, and if not, why?

There will be.

- is Iran geared specifically for Persian Shias, to the great detriment of most other minorities?

The current Supreme Leader is an Azeri. Doesn't look like a Nazi state to me.

- why did Iran take in the terrorist groups that were fleeing both the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan? (the country is positioned at the crossroads after all)

It really didn't. It would be rather weird providing refuge to the Talibans on the one hand and helping the Americans capture Herat on the other.

[reza_th1998]

hello, i have a few questions about Iran:

- why is Iran "Shia nation-building" in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen through third-party jihadist militias, IRGC, Hezbollah, Quds Force, etc and by installing pro-Iranian figures to key positions?

- what role did Iran have in the emergence of daesh both by providing safe haven for top AQI figures such as al-Zarqawi and by oppressing Sunnis and Kurds while comitting many massacres within a few short years? what do you know about the relationship between Iran and al-qaeda branches in Afghanistan and Pakistan?

- why does Iran not give up their war against Israel?

- will there ever be a secular Iran, and if not, why?

- is Iran geared specifically for Persian Shias, to the great detriment of most other minorities?

- why did Iran take in the terrorist groups that were fleeing both the invasion of Iraq and the invasion of Afghanistan? (the country is positioned at the crossroads after all)

wow!!! you have good information about iran.

1.i should say some third-party that was told are sunni.for example jihad and quds force.what do iran use them for shia nation??

if iran have third-party just for defense from muslims nations.

2.i did not understand.

3.in our idea israel=isis really. israel too attack to people and children of palestine. and people of palestine our brothers really.if a the murderer attack to your brother what

do you do???

a christian kill some people of jewish do muslems people shoud be accontable?? please ween.

4.no. becauce people of iran in the revolution 1979 vote to republic islamic.and should respect to people idea.

5.more than 90 percent people of iran are muslim. but other minorities have important roles in iran. all minorities have place in parliament.and they can held up their rituals.

except mason and bahai and wahaabi.

6.loool.im so sorry.till now so surprised wasnt.how do soldier of isis come from europe??

some leader of wahhabi can build a army in afghanestan.

and terrorist not transfer to afghanestan but terrorist was made in afghanestan.

surealy they hate from iran. if they can enter to iran, they was destroyed iran.

and milarty of isis fleeing to turkey.and turkey treat them.

in the end i should say iransenemies donot people of world to recognize actual iran.

i recommend that you read letters leader of iran for young of europe.

لعنت خدا بر آل سعود که سبب اینهمه بد بختی شده برای مسلمانان.

[reza_th1998]

to understand the real iran

http://www.aparat.com/v/olYrH

http://www.aparat.com/v/G53Ya

please say your opinions.thanks.

[Fardin]

to understand the real iran

http://www.aparat.com/v/olYrH

http://www.aparat.com/v/G53Ya

please say your opinions.

Thanks,Very nice videos.I'll put them on the first post.


The first post will be updated with more videos and information so check it out sometimes.

[Condottiere 40K]

Let's be fair; if the Arabs had won in forty eight, the Israelis would have been Masadaized.

[Fardin]

Let's be fair; if the Arabs had won in forty eight, the Israelis would have been Masadaized.

Yes,but we are not Arabs.Islam forbids killing and looting the civilians.

[Condottiere 40K]

And when an Imperialist dies, it's a trap.

[zarmehr]

[empr guy]

The pictures are all retarded, but as a comment on that representation of religion picture, actually islam is a sacred cow in the west because criticisms usually end up with numerous innocent people dead, and yes even the shia do this, google "the satanic verses". Criticizingextremist ideology gets portrayed as criticizing islam in general which is incredibly counter productive and harms the moderate muslims the most because it delegitimizes their position and tells the youth that being a murderous islamist is just as good as a anything else they can do with their lives. So instead of any sort of honest dialogue about the huge problems of islamic society and what may or may not be causing them, bringing it up means you're an islamophobe. You know, we can call the branch Davidians christian extremists and no ones going to really care, but you better say that orlando guy was a mental gay guy (he wasn't) or else you're just a bigot and hate all muslims.

Also I like that you called out athanaric for being "brainwashed", yet no comment on the pictures "proving" Irans military might that had such obviously fake air craft that were made specifically as propaganda

[Lord Oda Nobunaga]

I actually haven't seen any real criticisms of Islam in the main stream media either. Usually the topics are Putin, gun control, Christian Right Wing, Republicans, muh Feminism and election topics.
China is the other thing no one wants to touch.