Autocalc for the harvesting of rooters !!

**Yerevan** · June 09, 2016, 09:34 AM

By harvesting routers I mean chasing and killing the routing units at the moment the battle is won. Please, tell me I'm the only one to find this tedious ! When the battle is finished and you have all the ennemy army running away, of course you know you ll need to kill as many as you can to optimise (because who wants to fight unclimatic battles against army remnants) and then start the most boring and anti-fun phase in all TW gameplay : the sync of your inf and cav to kill as many routers as possible.

Most of the time, becquse of those clickfest ultra fast battles, the killing of routers takes 2 times longer than the battles itself !!!
I can't start to imagine how frustrating this must be with Dwarves !

So, I remember there was this feature (or my memory plays tricks to me) before, back in M2TW the numbers of killed routers was autocalc'd when you pushed the end battle button.

Killing routers is long and boring and life is short, I simply do the maths.

**M2TWRocks** · June 09, 2016, 10:06 AM

One of the main reasons why I don't think I could complete a Dwarf campaign. You're right - you truly spend probably 2/3 of the time during a battle perusing the map looking for the white dots, and sending your fastest units towards them.

**♘Top Hat Zebra** · June 09, 2016, 10:41 AM

Whaaat? That's the best part of the battle. Who doesn't love to see their bloodied, exhausted knights reaping the rewards of victory? Slaughtering their cowardly foe by the hundreds as they flee like frightened dogs, tails tucked between their legs (Sometimes literally.) It's a glorious sight, and I can't wait for a blood and gore DLC to make it even better.

"The Harvesting of Rooters" absolutely sounds terrifying, though, and that's what Im going to refer to it as from now on.

**Dorkus_Malorkus** · June 10, 2016, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by M2TWRocks

One of the main reasons why I don't think I could complete a Dwarf campaign. You're right - you truly spend probably 2/3 of the time during a battle perusing the map looking for the white dots, and sending your fastest units towards them.

Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra

Whaaat? That's the best part of the battle. Who doesn't love to see their bloodied, exhausted knights reaping the rewards of victory? Slaughtering their cowardly foe by the hundreds as they flee like frightened dogs, tails tucked between their legs (Sometimes literally.) It's a glorious sight, and I can't wait for a blood and gore DLC to make it even better.

"The Harvesting of Rooters" absolutely sounds terrifying, though, and that's what Im going to refer to it as from now on.

It's strange, ordering my hounds to chase Dwarf seems a little extra rewarding now. Still doesn't quite beat watching my hounds chase down the empire's decadent aristocracy.

I do not like the fact that a player's army cannot really survive a defeat but the AI armies seem to always survive defeats.

**Yerevan** · June 10, 2016, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dorkus_Malorkus

I do not like the fact that a player's army cannot really survive a defeat but the AI armies seem to always survive defeats.

Yes ! That's one of the things that I don't understand. Its obviously wrong.

Originally Posted by gary0044187

that would explain it then... now I know. that was a habit I had since back in the Shogun I days. Guess I will just leave battle immediately unless it triggers some dread traits still.

It's possible they changed it though, because I see units getting chevrons much faster than in Attila and R2.

**Yerevan** · June 09, 2016, 11:36 AM

arg I just realised I wrote rooters instead of routers

yeah, in some moments it can be enjoyable I guess but I would prefer it to be optional

**geala** · June 10, 2016, 03:43 AM

It would be much better if we had cruel and prolonged dying animations like in S2TW and very seldomly in R2TW and TW:Attila. The cavalry let behind them a tail of winding bodies, so it should be. Add guts and blood and ... Ok, I will try to become civilized again. Just auto-calc casualties for humanity's sake. Or add more cruel animations and ...

**Yerevan** · June 10, 2016, 05:09 AM

:-)

Well I have nothing against a beheading animation or two ! Or some giants dismembering guys, then beheading them like a can opener before pressing all the body's fluids right their mouth, gulp.

Ok, so I realised we're only two guys to find that the killing of routers (after battle is won) is too long and often becomes boring :-(

So I can be pretty pessimistic about my router's killing autocalc I guess.

**Borschik** · June 10, 2016, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by Yerevan

:-)

Well I have nothing against a beheading animation or two ! Or some giants dismembering guys, then beheading them like a can opener before pressing all the body's fluids right their mouth, gulp.

There will be no beheading animations because of crazy unit model variety of different heights and shapes. Actually there are no fighting animations in battles at all. Units never parry or block attacks with shields, attacker never finishes his kill with a thrust of sword through body of an enemy. Those features were present in earlier Total War games, but no more. I heard that there are special finishing animations when some lords kills some big monsters, but I never saw it happen.

And about routers: usually I just follow remains of retreated army on campaign map and auto-resolve.

**Naked Emperor** · June 10, 2016, 05:30 AM

this is why we have fast forward button.

**Påsan** · June 10, 2016, 08:15 AM

A better way of doing it is pursuing the defeated army on the campaign map and autocalc it. 100% casualties. (You dont have to autocalc, but nobody wants to spend 15 minutes fighting a depleted army. )

**gary0044187** · June 10, 2016, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Påsan

A better way of doing it is pursuing the defeated army on the campaign map and autocalc it. 100% casualties. (You dont have to autocalc, but nobody wants to spend 15 minutes fighting a depleted army. )

this, I don't pursue on battle map unless my units are low level and I want to get them some chevrons.

**Yerevan** · June 10, 2016, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Borschik

There will be no beheading animations because of crazy unit model variety of different heights and shapes. Actually there are no fighting animations in battles at all. Units never parry or block attacks with shields, attacker never finishes his kill with a thrust of sword through body of an enemy. Those features were present in earlier Total War games, but no more. I heard that there are special finishing animations when some lords kills some big monsters, but I never saw it happen..

It was second degree, I have no need for gore. Frankly I prefer it this way. I don't miss matched combat at all, I'm too happy to get a bit of unit cohesion and weight back.

Originally Posted by gary0044187

this, I don't pursue on battle map unless my units are low level and I want to get them some chevrons.

In R2 you didn't get experience when killing routers, did it change ?

**gary0044187** · June 10, 2016, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Yerevan

In R2 you didn't get experience when killing routers, did it change ?

that would explain it then... now I know. that was a habit I had since back in the Shogun I days. Guess I will just leave battle immediately unless it triggers some dread traits still.