Do you play with regional occupation limits?

[Fallen851]

I spent the first 1/5th of my VC campaign playing with regional occupation, then decided I'd prefer to conquer the pesky Dwarves that kept backstabbing me and actually get something out of it beyond some loot. it just felt like going to war with anyone but the Empire or Bretonnia was waste of time. The Greenskins proceeded to take over literally everything, and I just finished a massive battle, 5 Greenskins stacks versus 3 VC stacks. It was fun, but I can't help but wonder if I hadn't allowed the Greenskins to take over everything, would the game have been better?

Is anyone playing with regional occupation and enjoying it?

I'm curious regarding people's opinion, maybe I should keep regional occupation on for next campaign.

[Emperor Arcturus Mengsk]

I don't mind regional occupation, I'm still playing without any mods and the game seems okay so far, I usually install mods after some time have passed never at the start.

It also kind of makes sense to me in some RP way.

I don't know if Dwarfs in warhammer are any similar to Tolkien Dwarves but I think they wouldn't enjoy living in Altdorf, so they stick to their mines where their gold is cozy and safe underneath the earth

Same with Men, they wouldn't like living in a mine their whole lives right?...

The Von Carstein case is arguable but still, his living subjects are either intimidated or mind controlled into submission, everyone else serves in death, and he wants to be an eternal emperor in place of Franz, so him Establishing an underground empire seems way out of character, he likes being in the open because he wants others to fear him.

The Greenskins see men and dwarfs as sport they aren't after occupying human cities, they want to raze them to the ground because that's the definition of fun to them.

Franz goal is to reunite the fractured imperial provinces, in order for the Empire to be stronger and able to face all external threats Greenskin, Vampire or Chaos.

So to answer your question I don't understand why people dislike this feature so much, it seems interesting to me that you can't just go everywhere and paint it one colour.

I believe it will be even better after the map gets the extensions, perhaps the way the factions interact with each other will chance massively.

[Ichon]

I've let RO on and only done a camera lower mod and different LL start position mod. So far I don't mind it- it is certainly more interesting for Empire and some factions than others though. Not being able to conquer Norsca or the Dwarf holds near Reikland makes it more of a challenge to expand compared to playing as Greenskins even with the different start position mod where Azhag starts as Black Venom by the Border Princes most of the nearby targets are already holds so by the time RO is really noticeable players already have a fairly strong Empire.

I will probably try playing VC without RO because I'd love to move into Norsca as VC and just defeat Chaos from there then move south into the Empire and Bretonnia at the same times (hopefully they ally against me).

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

I do not, and actually haven't played with it yet.

It doesn't make much sense to me, honestly. I view it more as territory ownership than literal occupation, so going in and taking over a dwarf hold, for instance, doesn't mean thousands of men, women, and children are living their lives underground. It could just be a garrison and a mining town.

If Im RPing, I just... Don't conquer certain things. In my Empire campaign, I never conquer the orcs, I just go into the badlands and sack/raze their settlements, then leave.

[tgoodenow]

I use it, but it does make nations with alot of trading partners very OP. I'm waiting for an economic rebalacing mod. I like VC campaign with it because they don't trade as much as humans. I imagine it would make the game much harder as Chaos though. Regional occupation and allowing orcs trading makes them OP as well.

[geala]

I had a campaign with the "Conquer Anywhere" mod but I stopped it and started an Empire vh campaign with vanilla regional occupation restrictions. I prefer the vanilla rule here, hard to believe. At least as Empire vanilla makes sense, because it makes war against the Norsca much harder, and they were my nightmare in the first third of the game and also later extremely annoyed me, binding some armies desparately needed elsewhere.

[alQamar]

no I used Dresden's mod.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

no I used Dresden's mod.

I would love to but it seems unstable and errors on the campaign map :/

So I play normal, and I hope the remove it in the future.

[alQamar]

I would love to but it seems unstable and errors on the campaign map :/

So I play normal, and I hope the remove it in the future.

Cannot tell about stability issues after an successful campaign but it has some few issues like you capture a settlement and very rarely cannot destroy some buildings.

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[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Cannot tell about stability issues after an successful campaign but it has some few issues like you capture a settlement and very rarely cannot destroy some buildings.

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I have limited time at my hand so I will not risk any of my campaigns :S

still it should be remove or redesigned.

[Archimonday]

I play normal, I like it, mainly because it allows the campaign to continue. Chaos hordes and others always rise from the dead even if you think they are beaten. It also ensures that one faction cant rule the entire map, and forms permanent allies.

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[gary0044187]

Yes, I like the added depth this provides.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Yes, I like the added depth this provides.

but I don't think it will work for future races to be honest :S
I mean look at tomb kings, they would not be able to expand at all, as it is only mountain holds all the way up to border lands.
Which I will have to point out is area they own before they become undead!

[gary0044187]

but I don't think it will work for future races to be honest :S
I mean look at tomb kings, they would not be able to expand at all, as it is only mountain holds all the way up to border lands.
Which I will have to point out is area they own before they become undead!

Yeah but why would Settra even want to do that? TBH, there would have to be a damned good reason for him to march. seems to me, badlands could be fine for him, and silvania. so maybe they add flags to those two to allow him to expand there, let orcs expand into his area and let vampire counts do so as well. for that matter, seems like they would have to add chaos dwarves and ogre kingdoms together to create places for them to fight over. Either way, this whole not being able to take a province just to deny your enemies is a pretty neat added depth.

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Maybe the Tomb kings will be able to conquer holds because they are kind of tomby

For the love of luna I hope not.

i understand the purpose of regional occupation limits, but for me i'm always for world domination.....

It just falls apart as soon we leave the first game, what should the dorfs do in Asur land?

Yeah but why would Settra even want to do that? TBH, there would have to be a damned good reason for him to march. seems to me, badlands could be fine for him, and silvania. so maybe they add flags to those two to allow him to expand there, let orcs expand into his area and let vampire counts do so as well. for that matter, seems like they would have to add chaos dwarves and ogre kingdoms together to create places for them to fight over. Either way, this whole not being able to take a province just to deny your enemies is a pretty neat added depth.

Dude it is Settra the guy who wants to be king of kings, ofc he wants the whole world.

I just don't think the system is all that thought out to be honest, I was critic before release, and still here after release.
I can see the fun in it, but later more races will come, and the whole nemesis system falls apart.

Let the nemesis stay in small campaigns, then I play grand campaign I want my map to be in my colour.
Or aleast let it be the players choice what they what to do with the city.
And my last point!!!!
It is not even lore accurate.

anyway goodnight!

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[Emperor Arcturus Mengsk]

Maybe the Tomb kings will be able to conquer holds because they are kind of tomby

[Ataegina]

i understand the purpose of regional occupation limits, but for me i'm always for world domination.....

[Fallen851]

I think I might try the game with regional occupation for my next campaign. I think I made a mistake turning it off.

[gary0044187]

clicked the spoiler... now calling the glue factory to take you away...

[vae victus]

I'm playing as the dwarves, dorfs, whatever. I've managed to wipe out all the orcs but I can't expand anywhere. Chaos has been defeated, and I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs, i cant expand anywhere and im allied with the human factions. I can see how it could work, but it seems to make for a very similar campaign, where you can settle is already mapped out for you. CA never let history accuracy override the game and the lore seems take away the domination aspect. An option to turn it on/off would be good for all I think. Is it different for other factions?