266 AL

[Poach]

266AL (Year 7)

The realm looks to be at peace. The Reach has been pacified, seemingly for the foreseeable future, while any other enemies the King has are in hiding. A tournament is held at Castamere now that the realm is finally stable enough to warrant one.

Post any rolls you need.

[Dirty Chai]

Since Princess Elinor Martell is in a catatonic state permanently, I'll ask for a low chance death roll for her

I'll give it 3/20

17 she survives another year.

Lay another on me

[Trot]

Lay another on me

Roll 4 She has a very rough year almost dying multiple time, but ultimately she survives the night.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Additionally the following is now in effect:

1. Ravens are no longer instant messaging devices

2. Due to moderation oversight double income for lands were claimed resulting in very skewed and unbalanced financial situation with the Royal purse sitting at half a million dragons. In order to attempt to even the playing field, I feel it is OK for players to take 3x their unbuffed land income for this year. Post if you have any opposition to this. - Disputed. Do not do this at this time.

[The Mad Skylord]

Wait, what? Since when did I get 500k? The only time I was close was when I got cash from War tax and Lannister.

[Poach]

I don't and I told you that in the Aegon's Hill thread about it. You're just ignoring that now, are you? You being mad that we ed the rules up doesn't mean you get to give everyone free money. Skylord got his money through legitimate means. Giving people free money is not legitimate means. No one gets free money.

[Pericles of Athens]

I think Skylord should just pay back the extra money he got from dragonstone, I'm sure he's got the cash to do it.

[Gandalfus]

I object

[Pontifex Maximus]

We had absolutely no resolution of that discussion anywhere and I'm not going to let it just die because people failed to comment. That's my fix. As I explained, even with the one province rule not in effect Skylord used incomes from two provinces to improve a single province. I'm not rehashing my arguments here because everyone has seen them. Dragonstone income x5 is no small thing. Even with my fix players who didn't claim two incomes come out poorer for it.

Poach objected strongly to any taking away of money from Aerys because he considered it punitive (it wasn't, by any stretch, Aerys is literally sitting on piles of money) so my fix is to even the playing field by letting players claim 3/5 of what Aerys claimed.

I'm happy for Aerys to forfeit 250,000 dragons from his purse to resolve it, but short of that I'll be encouraging anyone else who thinks the same to claim 3x land income.

[Poach]

I commented and I included suggestions.

[Pontifex Maximus]

Yeah well nobody else did. So it's essentially down to your vote versus my vote. I'll remind you that this fix is a massive compromise to what I really wanted to do. I don't really appreciate the sheer obstinacy I'm facing with fixing a rather large problem in the game at the moment.

[Poach]

That's because the only person hell-bent on seeing Skylord somehow punished for this is you.

[Pontifex Maximus]

That's because the only person hell-bent on seeing Skylord somehow punished for this is you.

that's simply not true. There are two others and one on the fence, as you can see in the mod forum. But for the 6th time, it isn't a punishment. It is removing income that should not have been claimed due to moderator oversight. But we're past that. I'm proposing something else entirely. Something that is still unfair but more fair than doing nothing. I fail to see how it is in the slightest way objectionable. I really don't see how one character having enough money t instantly assassinate any character in game twice over is a good thing for fairness, and then that character also being king.

[Pericles of Athens]

I'll vote for PM's proposal. Its not really a punishment. It was a misunderstanding and now he gives back what the rules say he never should have gotten.

[Poach]

And my suggestion was a poll on your income boost proposal. Still seems the fairest way to settle it to me.

[Pontifex Maximus]

And my suggestion was a poll on your income boost proposal. Still seems the fairest way to settle it to me.

Well we can do that here. So far:

1 against any action
1 for income boosts
2 for a 250k king repayment

And I could change my vote making it 3.

[Pericles of Athens]

I think the fairest thing to do is have the king give the money back, its not even half of his funds right now lol. Rather than giving everyone instant cash for no reason.

[Poach]

I'd like an actual mod poll, like I suggested before you ignored that and told the playerbase they can have free money. The poll for making Skylord pay it back already failed.

[Pontifex Maximus]

I did a mod poll. Nobody commented at all except you and I for days. In the meantime in my view something really bad is going on in the game. This just isn't something I'm willign to sit on my hands about. I think it needs to be addressed ASAP and it's been a week...

[Pericles of Athens]

Shouldnt that be something the community votes on, not something the mods vote on?