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    Iberians and Celtiberians
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    Credits
    Below you will see a preview of our Iberian roster. This includes some 140 units with 7 different rosters with a significant degree of visual (and, to the best of our knowledge, accurate) diversity designed to work with our population script and Area of Recruitment system. These units wouldn't be possible without the help of a number of contribors. We are incredibly greatful to have access to their work. It wouldn't be possible for us to do something like this without their generosity and hard work.

    Miri82 | Culture Identity Pack: Iberians for Rome II
    Miri82 is a modder who provided us with the textures and models below. Most of these units - the components and many of the basic concepts - come from his work for Rome II. His work is the most thorough and detailed Iberian overhaul done by any modder. His work is an overhaul in its own right, and we would not have been able to have this level of detail on our own. The units below are mostly his hard work.

    Cpt. Cortes | Lucio Boreno
    Lucio is the main creator of these units in terms of putting them together and conducting research. He wrote the variantmeshes and they are his creation.

    Divide et Impera
    As always going forward, a number of DeI elements have been incoropraed into the above units.

    HigoChumbo
    provided help in the past that aided in the research for these units. He took time to collect the relevant information from various sources and send it to me. It was thorough and incredibly useful.


    Southern Iberians and Turdetani
    "The Turdetani are the most civilized of the Iberians : they know to write and possess books, and also poems and a code of laws that they consider older than seven thousand years ..." (Strabo, Geography, III, 1, 6)

    Strabo III.2.4 on the economy or wealth of the Turdetani:
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    Turdetania itself is marvellously blessed by nature; and while it produces all things, and likewise great quantities of them, these blessings are doubled by the facilities of exportation; for its surplus products are bartered off with ease because of the large number of the merchant vessels. This is made possible by the rivers, and by the estuaries as well, which, as I have said,24 resemble rivers, and, like rivers, are navigable inland from the sea, not only for small boats but also for large ones, to the cities of the interior. For the whole country beyond the seaboard that lies between the Sacred Cape and the Pillars is a plain for a considerable distance inland. And here, at a large number of places, are inlets which run up from the sea into the interior, resembling moderate-sized ravines or simply river-beds, and extending for many stadia; and these inlets are filled by the overflows of the sea at the flood-tides, so that one can sail inland thereon as readily as on the rivers — 143in fact, better, for it is like sailing down the rivers, not only because there is no opposing current, but because, on account of the flood-tide, the sea wafts you onwards just as the river-current does. And the overflows are greater on this coast than in the other regions, because the sea, coming from the great ocean, is compressed into the narrow strait which Maurusia forms with Iberia, there meets resistance, and then easily rushes to those parts of the land that yield to it. Now, while a number of the inlets of this kind are emptied at the ebb-tides (though some of them do not become wholly dry), yet a number of them enclose islands p29within themselves. Such, then, are the estuaries between the Sacred Cape and the Pillars, for they have an excessive rise of tide as compared with those in the other regions. A rise of tide like this affords a certain advantage to be utilised by sailors, namely, the estuaries are made more numerous and larger, oftentimes being navigable even for a distance of eight25 stadia; so that, after a fashion, it renders the whole country navigable and convenient both for exporting and importing merchandise. And yet it also affords a certain annoyance; for, on account of the vehemence of the flood-tides, which press with superior force against the current of the rivers, navigation on the rivers is attended by no small danger to the vessels, alike in their descent and ascent. But in the case of the estuaries the ebb-tides too are harmful; for the ebb-tides too grow violent in proportion to the strength of the flood-tides, and on account of their swiftness have oftentimes even left the ship stranded on dry land. Again, the cattle which cross over to the islands that lie off the rivers or the estuaries have at times actually been engulfed; at other times they have merely been cut off, and in their struggle to get back to the land lacked the strength to do so, and perished. But the cows, they say, are by observation actually aware of what happens, wait for the retirement of the sea, and then make off for the mainland.
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    There are exported from Turdetania large quantities of grain and wine, and also olive oil, not only in large quantities, but also of best quality. And further, wax, honey, and pitch are exported from there, and large quantities of kermes,27 and ruddle28 which is not inferior to the Sinopian earth. And they build up their ships there out of native timber; and they have salt quarries in their country, and not a few streams of salt water; and not unimportant, either, is the fish-salting industry that is carried on, not only from this county,ş but also from the rest of the seaboard outside the Pillars; and the product is not inferior to that of the Pontus. Formerly much cloth came from Turdetania, but now, wool, rather of the raven-black sort.29 And it is surpassingly beautiful; at all events, the rams are bought for breeding purposes at a talent apiece. Surpassing, too, are the delicate fabrics which are woven by the people of Salacia.30 Turdetania also has a great abundance of cattle of all kinds, and of game.

    But as for Turdetania and the territory adjoining it, there is no worthy word of praise left to him who wishes to praise their excellence in this respect. Up to the present moment, in fact, neither gold, nor silver, nor yet copper, nor iron, has been found anywhere in the world, in a natural state, either in such quantity or of such good quality. And the gold is not only mined, but is also washed down; that is, the gold-bearing sand is carried down by the rivers and the torrents, although it is often found in p41the waterless districts also; but in these districts it cannot be seen...whereas in the flooded districts the gold-dust glitters. Besides, they flood the waterless districts by conducting water thither, and thus they make the gold-dust glitter; and they also get the gold out by digging pits, and by inventing other means for washing the sand; and the so-called "gold-washeries" are now more numerous than the gold mines

    They build the silver-smelting furnaces with high chimneys, so that the gas from the ore may be carried high into the air; for it is heavy and deadly. Some of the copper-mines are called gold-mines, and from this fact it is inferred that in former times gold was mined from them.

    Not very far from Castalo is also the mountain in which the Baetis is said to rise; it is called "Silver Mountain" on account of the silver-mines that are in it. According to Polybius, however, both this river and the Anas, though distant from each other as much as nine hundred stadia, rise in Celtiberia; for, as a result of their growth in power, the Celtiberians caused the whole neighbouring country to have the same name as their own.
    "But these Bastetani which I have just narrated, too, are under the dominion of Turdetania, and so the Bastetani over river Anas, and most of their neighbors." (Strabo, Geography III, 2, 11)

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    The Units
    The Turdetani and their subjugated neighbors, the Contestani and Bestetani, had the most influence from the Carthaginians, and it shows in their equipment. They come equipped with the famed curved falcatta blade of Hispania with some using straight blades. Still others fought with spears. Their equipment style moves through three distinct phases. Initially, they operated with lighter equipment - mostly leather and sinew helmets, little armor, and the small, round, caetra shield. A small portion of their army came from the nobility which were more heavily equipped. This chieftain from the fourth century (artist depiction based on a relief) serves as an example. These light warriors packed two iron javelins. In the middle of the third century, these Iberians began to develop their own cavalry arms which previously had been extremely rare outside the armies of the Northern Celtiberians.

    By the late third century, around the time of the Barcid conquest of Iberia, these tribes were the first Iberians outside those in the Northeast to adopt the oval scuta shields. Leather and felt armors were adopted with some pictured featuring pteryges similar to Punic or Greek linothoraxes. Simultaneously, the more Eastern tribes in direct contact with the Carthaginians began to adopt jockey-style montefortino helmets (most finds are missing their cheekplates) which seem to have come from service with Carthaginian mercenaries.

    These units are quality medium and light infantry, especially in the late phases. They likely provided the bulk of the Iberians who served under Hannibal in Italy where they acquitted themselves quite well. They are versatile infantry suited to a variety of situations, though best kept away from the heaviest infantry they could encounter. In the hands of the right general, they can, however, be a very capable fighting force.
    Spear and Sword Caetrati
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    Spear and Sword Scutari
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    Noble Caetrati and Scutari

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    Caetrati and Scutari Cavalry
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    Eastern Iberians - Edetani
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    The Edetani were an Iberian tribe located on the middle of the Eastern Iberian coast. Images depicted below show from their territory show their arms and equipment as well as what appears to be black body paint. Modern historians argue that:

    Edetani warriors (neighbours of the Arevaci) went naked (or, at least, barefoot) for ritual reasons, and that they protected themselves with a paste tentatively identified as a manganese compound. Sarriugarte (2003: 1) literally states: "They (the Edetani) went totally barefoot, applying to themselves a product (permanganate) that made the skin wizened when it dried out, and allowed them to walk as if they were wearing some sort of footwear". Eslava-Galán (2004: 166) makes a similar assertion: "It is possible that some naked parts, arms and legs, were smeared with permanganate, which would give them a stiff texture". - Source

    Like their Southern neighbors, in the late through the middle of the second century they fought with round caetra shields and leather armors to include helmets before they adopted the oval scuta shield. They were close to areas where archaeological finds have confirmed the introduction of the montefortino jockey style helmet. Other finds have included round central bosses belong to oval shields. Like the tribes of Andalusia to the south, they fight with swords and spears, and come with two iron javelins.
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    The Units
    Spear and Sword Caetrati
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    Spear and Sword Scutari
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    Caetrati and Scutari Cavalry
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    Eastern Iberians - Illergatae, Illercavones
    Units
    Sword and Spear Caetrati

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    Sword and Spear Scutari
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    Caetrati and Scutari Cavalry
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    Northeastern Iberians - Cessetani
    The Cessetani and Iberian tribes located up in the Northeast of the peninsula above the Ebro River differed from other Iberians. Their close contact with the Celts in the North led them to adopt La Tene style arms and equipment from the fourth century on. They also had contact with Greek colonists located along the coast. Embossed bronze cuirasses have been found in their territory along with chalcidian helmets that were used by their nobility. They used longer Celtic-type spears, swords, and shields.
    Trival Levies
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    Sword and Spear Scutari
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    Noble Sword and Spear Scutari
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    Caetrati and Scutari Cavalry
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    Plateau Celtiberians - Arevaci
    The Arevaci were a Celtiberian people who inhabited North-central Spain and who constituted the most powerful tribe in the Celtiberian Confederacy whose members consisted of Lusones, Belli, and Titii. In terms of combat forces, the evidence we have indicates a mixture of Celtic and Iberian influences. The ancient authors heaped praise on them for their martial ability as well as their fierce independence. Their resistance at Numantia during the Celtiberian War is the stuff of legend as 4 to 8 thousand held off the Roman legions. It led to the downfall of several Consuls until the Romans appointed Scipio Aemilianus Africanus (later would take the surname Numantinus after his successful siege) to finish the job that others could not.

    We have relatively decent descriptions and depictions of their arms and equipment. The poet Lucilius describes them as wearing braccae (breeches), neck rings, and sagas (cloaks, which are mentioned by several other writers). This description is backed up by the visual evidence that we have. The sagas are the most commonly referenced pieces of clothing. Diodorus describes these garments along with aspis sized shields to go along with more Celtic types.
    Diodorus 5.33, on the Celtiberians - Black wool cloaks, shields, equipment
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    Now that we have spoken at sufficient length about the Celts we shall turn our history to the Celtiberians who are their neighbours. In ancient times these two peoples, namely, the Iberians and the Celts, kept warring among themselves over the land, but when later they arranged their differences and settled upon the land altogether, and when they went further and agreed to intermarriage with each other, because of such intermixture the two peoples received the appellation given above. And since it was two powerful nations that united and the land of theirs was fertile, it came to pass that the Celtiberians advanced far in fame and were subdued by the Romans with difficulty and only after they had faced them in battle over a long period. 2 And this people, it would appear, provide for warfare not only excellent cavalry but also foot-soldiers who excel in prowess and endurance. They wear rough black cloaks, the wool of which resembles the hair of goats. 3 As for their arms, certain of the Celtiberians, carry light shields like those of the Gauls, and certain carry circular wicker shields as large as an aspis,39 and about their shins and calves they wind greaves made of hair and on their heads they wear bronze helmets adorned with purple crests. The swords they wear are two-edged and wrought of excellent iron, and they also have dirks a span in length which they use p187in fighting at close quarters. 4 And a peculiar practice is followed by them in the fashioning of their defensive40 weapons; for they bury plates of iron in the ground and leave them there until in the course of time the rust has eaten out what is weak in the iron and what is left is only the most unyielding, and of this they then fashion excellent swords and such other objects as pertain to war.41 The weapon which has been fashioned in the manner described cuts through anything which gets in its way, for no shield or helmet or bone can withstand a blow from it, because of the exceptional quality of the iron. 5 Able as they are to fight in two styles, they first carry on the contest on horseback, and when they have defeated the cavalry they dismount, and assuming the rôle of foot-soldiers they put up marvellous battles. And a peculiar and strange custom obtains among them: Careful and cleanly as they are in their ways of living, they nevertheless observe one practice which is low and partakes of great uncleanness; for they consistently use urine to bathe the body and wash their teeth with it, thinking that in this practice is constituted the care and healing of the body.42
    The Celtiberians were sought after soldiers for both the Carthaginians and Romans. While they would increasingly be used as light infantry and cavalry by the Romans, they were at times levied as units of scutati. They were typically more heavily armed than Iberian tribes in the South, and their encounters with the Romans left a significant influence. It is probably that the design of the gladius was copied from Celtiberian sword designs.

    Before we get started, two useful images that show the progression of Celtiberian arms and weapons over time:
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    The Units
    The Arevaci, to include their capital Numantia, formed a confederation with three smaller Celtiberian tribes. Together, they constituted the most feared warriors of the Iberian peninsula. Heavier armed than other groups, these warriors showed themselves capable of squaring up against the heavy Roman infantry of the second century. They adopted cavalry earlier than their neighbors, and Rome clearly valued its fighting ability as treaties with them in the second century BC and on called for them to serve as allied forces. Their infantry came equipped iron javelins, spears and swords. In the early to middle of the third century they fought with blades that eventually evolved into the likely basis for the gladius hispaniensis adopted by the Romans. Later certain Roman generals fighting on the Iberian peninsula liked to employ Celtiberians as bodyguards.. They used a variety of shields to include smaller caetra shields, large round whicker shields the size of an aspis, and oval scuta style shields. Like their neighbors, the Edetani, it is believed that they employed body paint on their skin in battle for ceremonial purposes. They used ochre and black pastes.
    Light Infantry
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    Arevaci Spear and Sword Warriors

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    Noble Spears and Swordsmen
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    Cavalry
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    Lusitanians
    The Lusitanians, per Strabo and Pliny (35-47 tribes), consisted of dozens of tribes in the region near the Tagus river that combined into a loose confederacy that united at times of war or emergencies (such as during the Carthaginian and Roman incursions). The sources emphasize that they were typically lightly armed, but fierce and happy to lay ambushes. The stereotype most people have of Iberian warfare largely comes from these people. We have relatively detailed decriptions of their equipment from several sources.

    Strabo tells us that when they wore their hair long, but went "into battle they bind their hair about the forehead." Click this link to see an example of the bound hair style - the soldier in the bottom right of the picture.

    Diodorus tells us they were the most valiant of the Iberians, that they carried tough small circular shields (Caetra's), that they used the typical Iberian javelins, and that they had adopted certain equipment from the Celtiberians (helmets and swords). We also get a glimpse of their martial culture as he documents that they held combat competitions between their troops in full gear.
    Diodorus 5.34:
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    The most valiant among the Iberians are those who are known as Lusitanians, who carry in war very small shields which are interwoven with cords of sinew and are able to protect the body unusually well, because they are so tough; and shifting this shield easily as they do in their fighting, now here, now there, they cleverly ward off from their person every blow which comes at them. 5 They also use barbed javelins made entirely of iron, and wear helmets and swords very much like those of the Celtiberians. They hurl the javelin with good effect, even over a long distance, and, in fine, are doughty in dealing their blows. Since they are nimble and wear light arms, they are swift both in flight and in pursuit, but when it comes to enduring the hardships of a stiff fight they are far inferior to the Celtiberians.
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    And a peculiar practice obtains among the Iberians and particularly among the Lusitanians; for when their young men come to the bloom of their physical strength, those who are the very poorest among them in worldly goods and yet excel in vigour of body and daring equip themselves with no more than valour and arms and gather in the mountain fastnesses, where they form into bands of considerable size and then descend upon Iberia and collect wealth from their pillaging. And this brigandage they continually practise in a spirit of complete disdain; for using as they do light arms and being altogether nimble and swift, they are a most difficult people for other men to subdue. 7 And, speaking generally, they consider the fastnesses and crags of the mountains to be their native land and to these places, which large and heavily equipped armies find hard to traverse, they flee for refuge. Consequently, although the Romans in their frequent campaigns against the Lusitanians rid them of their great spirit of disdain, they were nevertheless unable, often as they eagerly set about it, to put a complete end to their plundering
    Strabo elaborates further. They liked to lay ambushes, mentions the same Caetra's and "butcher's" knives. They had linen cuirsses (linothoraxes) and some used chain mail (more Celtiberian influence. He also mentions the javelins, and that some used spears with bronze heads.
    Strabo Book 3.3.6
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    At any rate, the Lusitanians, it is said, are given to laying ambush, given to spying out, are quick, nimble, and good at deploying troops. They have a small shield two feet in diameter, concave p73in front, and suspended from the shoulder by means of thongs (for it has neither arm-rings nor handles). Besides these shields they have a dirk or a butcher's-knife. Most of them wear linen cuirasses; a few wear chain-wrought cuirasses and helmets with three crests, but the rest wear helmets made of sinews. The foot-soldiers wear greaves also, and each soldier has several javelins; and some also make use of spears, and the spears have bronze heads. Now some of the peoples that dwell next to the Durius River live, it is said, after the manner of the Laconians — using anointing-rooms twice a day and taking baths in vapours that rise from heated stones, bathing in cold water, and eating only one meal a day;76 and that in a cleanly77 and simple way. The Lusitanians are given to offering sacrifices, and they inspect the vitals, without cutting them out.

    All the mountaineers lead a simple life, are water-drinkers, sleep on the ground, and let their hair stream down in thick masses after the manner of women, though before going into battle they bind their hair about the forehead. 155 They eat goat's-meat mostly, and to Ares they sacrifice a he-goat and also p75the prisoners and horses; and they also offer hecatombs of each kind, after the Greek fashion...All the men dress in black, for the most part in coarse cloaks, in which they sleep, on their beds of litter. And they use waxen vessels, just as the Celts do. The women wear dresses and embroidered garments. Instead of money, those who dwell far in the interior exchange merchandise, or give pieces of silver cut off from plates of that metal. Those condemned to death are executed by stoning; parricides are put to death without the frontiers or the cities. They marry according to the customs of the Greeks.

    They also hold contests, for light-armed and heavy-armed soldiers and cavalry, in boxing, in running, in skirmishing, and in fighting by squads. And the mountaineers, for two-thirds of the year, eat acorns, which they have first dried and crushed, and then ground up and made into a bread that may be stored away for a long time. They also drink beer; but they are scarce of wine, and what wine they have made they speedily drink up in merry feastings with their kinsfolk; and instead of olive-oil they use butter.
    Appian also tells us that the Romans had a rough time dealing with Lusitanian cavalry. They seem to have employed hit and run tactics and operated in small groups so that the more heavily armored Romans were unable to catch them. Yet, he also describes segments of their forces with armor - most likely the Celtiberian chain mail. They were described as fast and with high stamina as well as typically accompanied with light infantry. It also seems that in some situations they had a habit of dismounting to fight.
    The Units
    Lusitani Slingers

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    Lusitani Mountain Cavalry
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    Lusitani Levies
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    Lusitani Caetrati and Mountaineers
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    Lusitani Raiders

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    Lusitani Nobles
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    Lusitani Devoted Spears and Swordsmen
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    Lusitani Noble and Devoted Cavalry
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    Northern Celtiberians - Gallaeci
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    Units
    Gallaeci Slingers and Tribal Levies

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    Gallaeci Caetrati
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    Gallaeci Devoted Spears and Swordsmen

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    Gallaeci Nobles
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    Gallaeci Noble Cavalry

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    Gallaeci Devoted Cavalry

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    Awesome units guys can't wait to see the northern celtiberians and the rest ofcource.
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    Great preview! wow!
    10/10 and still willing to see the rest
    +support keep it up!

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    I think people will be pleased with the full roster. A lot of diversity, and we plan to implement this as an AOR system so you get access to them all if you unite the Iberian tribes. The Roman player will also be thrown into Iberia right away so hopefully they make interesting enemies. We have some plans on overall combat to make them play a bit differently.

    The only thing I'd like to improve, after a first release, are the shields. Mainly, the scutum models. There are three distinct boss types found in the peninsula. The CA Iberian scutum model isn't quite right and we'd like to do it right when we get a chance.

    I'd like to eventually go into this sort of depth for some other barbarians that don't get a lot of love. We have a lot of depth with our Hellenistic factions, Romans (obviously). The Celts are a blackhole where there's not much to distinguish tribes or areas from one another, but the Germans are one group I'd like to give a similar treatment down the road. Have a few other ideas, as well.


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    Will you replace religion with culture or will you have both? Religion, and culture sounds good! Also is there a way to increase the amount of building slots in settlements?

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    Excellent as always - detailed, historical and very various factions. + rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABH2 View Post
    I think people will be pleased with the full roster. A lot of diversity, and we plan to implement this as an AOR system so you get access to them all if you unite the Iberian tribes. The Roman player will also be thrown into Iberia right away so hopefully they make interesting enemies. We have some plans on overall combat to make them play a bit differently.

    The only thing I'd like to improve, after a first release, are the shields. Mainly, the scutum models. There are three distinct boss types found in the peninsula. The CA Iberian scutum model isn't quite right and we'd like to do it right when we get a chance.

    I'd like to eventually go into this sort of depth for some other barbarians that don't get a lot of love. We have a lot of depth with our Hellenistic factions, Romans (obviously). The Celts are a blackhole where there's not much to distinguish tribes or areas from one another, but the Germans are one group I'd like to give a similar treatment down the road. Have a few other ideas, as well.
    Good news indeed!

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    FANTASTIC! Great preview with amazing amount of detail. Looking forward to play this mod.
    Best regards,

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    Added in the Lusitani and Gallaeci to the above. Should point out that UMC made the helmet model featured in the above, and Petellius took the screenshots of all these units along with making the banner.


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    YOU!!! You returned these helmets (almost in a virtual way) to his truly owners! Thanks!

    The history behind these pieces is absolutely shameful. As you could imagine, these helmets were stolen from celtiberian tombs near the ancient city of Numantia, in unknown locations (because the raider, who had been stealing this type of pieces for decades (more than 2,000 pieces were recovered by the spanish Civil Guard in his garage!) can´t remember it ), and later sold to auction houses of Germany and UK, without the possibility of any academician could study it.

    Then, the german government wrote to the spanish goverment that these helmets could be potential cultural heritage of Spain. Wich was the answer of the spanish goverment? None (Oh, God of History! we have a continuous decline for 4 centuries, when will this situation end?)

    So, you are returned his ancient helmets to the celtiberian peoples. At least, it's a poetic victory.

    Epona guide your journey, noble modders of AE!
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    I'm glad it means so much to you They are truly wonderfully pieces that look astounding in game.
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    AE: Battle Balancing and BAI.

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    Default Re: [PREVEW] Iberians and Celtiberians

    Awesome preview!





















































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    Default Re: [PREVEW] Iberians and Celtiberians

    There is going to be a vascones tribe in the mod ?

    If is not, wich is the tribe that is going to be in the pamplona region on the campaing?

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    Default Re: [PREVEW] Iberians and Celtiberians

    Quote Originally Posted by sobaos View Post
    There is going to be a vascones tribe in the mod ?

    If is not, wich is the tribe that is going to be in the pamplona region on the campaing?
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14370901
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    AE: Battle Balancing and BAI.

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    Default Re: [PREVEW] Iberians and Celtiberians

    Keep up the hard work guys! REALLY looking forward to this Mod coming out... Will play many, many hours... before CIV6 hits, I'm sure.... My fav time period of Roman history.. your Mod and the Attila engine - should be fantastic!

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