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Thread: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

  1. #761
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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Great mod, I haven't been as hyped since Rome II was announced! The only small issues I noticed so far is that several of the Salghurid and Bavanid units (including the captain model) seems to suffer from the "silver surfer" issue, unless I somehow messed up the installation. I would also like to add some retinues for the governorship of the Eastern regions, like in Transoxiana (Qara-Khitai Khanate), Fars (Salghurids) and Mazandaran (Bavanids).

    After a brief test in custom battles, I noticed the silver surfer error in the following units, but I could have missed some in the rest of the playable factions or the AOR units that are not available outside the campaign:

    Principalty of Kiev: 1. Ballista crew.
    Salghurids: 1. Oghuz noble horse archers 2. Türkmän raiders 3. Duzdariyah Fursan 4. Jundariyah 5. Tajik ubran militia 6. Duzdariyah 7. Persian archers 8. Persian spearmen.
    Bavandids: 1. Onager/catapult/ballista crews 2. General/captain 3. Gond-i Ispahbadh.

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    I recently downloaded this, I've been playing this mod with a buff and shine download i downloaded about 4-3 years ago, it didnt have that black map for undiscovered territory just fog, also recruitment wasn't that slow, mongols where much stronger but not crazy, i think for every 2nd city they got they gained 2 stacks and some more after so many turns. ive lost that downloaded of buff and shine 2.4.2 yesterday and the updates have made some changes. the delay on recruitment of soldiers wasn't this long, recruitment seems allot harder now, anyway of downloading files of buff and shine from about 3-4 years ago?

  3. #763

    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    69 turns playing seljuks of iraq for no reason diplomat agent limit reached, cant produce anymore diplomats, only have a few with over 20 cities, a sultans palaces built all over the place, why is that?

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Hello mems,

    You can remove the fog of war by changing the color in map_fog.TGA from black to white .
    You can raise the limit of diplomats by adding additional capabilities to the capital building in the export_descr_buildings.txt file. I use these lines :

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    building capital_building
    {
    levels capital_building
    {
    capital_building requires factions { , }
    {
    capability
    {
    agent merchant 0 requires factions { timurids, hre, normans, turks, yemen, cumans, kievan_rus, kyiv, saxons, byzantium, poland, england, france, moors, denmark, russia, fars, milan, sicily, venice, portugal, egypt, spain, bavandid, scotland, hungary, aztecs, slave, mongols, }
    agent_limit merchant 2
    agent spy 0 requires factions { timurids, hre, normans, turks, yemen, cumans, kievan_rus, kyiv, saxons, byzantium, poland, england, france, moors, denmark, russia, fars, milan, sicily, venice, portugal, egypt, spain, bavandid, scotland, hungary, aztecs, slave, mongols, }
    agent_limit spy 2
    agent assassin 0 requires factions { timurids, hre, normans, turks, yemen, cumans, kievan_rus, kyiv, saxons, byzantium, poland, england, france, moors, denmark, russia, fars, milan, sicily, venice, portugal, egypt, spain, bavandid, scotland, hungary, aztecs, slave, mongols, }
    agent_limit assassin 1
    agent diplomat 0 requires factions { timurids, hre, normans, turks, yemen, cumans, kievan_rus, kyiv, saxons, byzantium, poland, england, france, moors, denmark, russia, fars, milan, sicily, venice, portugal, egypt, spain, bavandid, scotland, hungary, aztecs, slave, mongols, }
    agent_limit diplomat 4
    happiness_bonus bonus 4
    population_growth_bonus bonus 2
    recruitment_slots bonus 1



    This allows small factions to have more diplomats than usual and stops large factions from spamming agents. In my edb the town_hall line doesnt give additional diplomats. I dont know if this is already the case for the original file.
    You could add the agent_limit diplomat 1 capability for higher level town halls like city_hall.

    Best regards

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Hi Mate

    thanks for that ill give that a try now, but just a little more on the topic. on turn 68 i have 1 diplomat, i went on recruiting spree of diplomats i can recruit many about 20 or so, as I have many of the required buildings to produce diplomats ie "Sultans palace" "Dari ilma" buldings . However if i go next turn with 1 diplomat not recruiting none, all of the sudden its say agent limit reached on turn 69. So after looking at every detail, trying find the difference from turn 68 to 69 i found that the "Capital" building randomly built itself im my capital city "Hamadan". why does the Capital building randomly appear? or build it self. so I destroyed that building and now my diplomats are recruitable again. That "Capital" building was not in the version of Buff and shine I played before its must have been added after. Also on my file Export_descr_buildings town_hall, Council_chambers don't give any additional diplomats, City_Hall gives 1 and mayors_palace gives 2 (for turks Dar al imira, Sultans palace are the buildings representing city hall and mayors palace I believe.) I have 21 cities with dar al imira and sultans palace built in many of those cities.


    So the Capital building does that limit merchants, diplomats, spies assasins for the AI factions and for the player after it randomly appears? deleting it fixed my problem, losing its gains on population happiness however.

    Thanks for the reply I appreciate it.

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    Did you install all three parts? I checked the files from the "mypatch" folder. The export_descr_buildings.txt file from this folder has only a "agent_limit diplomat" line for the capital building and not the cities hall building line (only has "agent diplomat" line. ), if I checked correctly.
    I assume once you delete the capital building the agent_limit diplomat is zero and this might give unlimited recruitment of diplomats.

    The team implemented the script from https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...eb-2013-update
    The script tracks movement of capital and builds capital building in the new capital and deletes the old one.

    I recommend increasing the agent_limit diplomat to some higher numbers for the capital building.

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Yes so i increased the limits of merchants, spies, assasins on the capital building lines of agent_limit. and it worked I can recruit my diplomats without destroying the capital building in campaign.

    yes sorry the city hall buildings have agent diplomat lines only. so I'm assuming that means city halls built in cities should allow for additional diplomats, but the capital building overrides their capabilities by limiting the allowable recruitments. for Ai and player.

    But I don't understand why the capital building spawned on turn 69, limiting my diplomats and other agents.

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    In the vanilla files the city hall line usually increases the agent limit by one. You can also add these back, but in some mods ai diplomats have the nasty behavior of trying to bribe cities which considerable increases turn times, when there are many diplomats.
    I sometimes also have problems with capital building not being rebuilt, but it might be to me making some modifications. Mybe one should rebuilt the Capital script using the tool from https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...eb-2013-update .

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    thanks mate appreciate it.

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Sorry for the double post.

    I checked again the edb file in baregeomod(which is basically vanilla) and stand corrected, as there is no agent_limit diplomat entry.

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    When will be released Buff and Shine 2.0 ?

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendGeneral View Post
    Hi All,

    I have been super busy with real life, and I must admit I haven't done all that much work on buff and shine.
    I am currently tinkering on a large patch that addresses as many of the communities concerns as possible. If I could ask all of you a big favour could you please list what you like about the mod, what frustrates you or you hate and what is broken/bugged out.

    I'll read all of it, and I'll do my best to fix it - mostly.
    This Mod is so much good that it deserves a one more update (to 2.0).

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    The OP has been updated in May 2020, has there been some update to the mod?

    Also here is the Fog of War free map version:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/6lx7j3...ap_fog.7z/file

    Extract the file in your Medieval II Total War\mods\BFE\data\world\maps\base and overwrite the existing one.
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    Last edited by The Despondent Mind; June 22, 2020 at 02:03 PM.

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    Default Re: Buff and Shine 1.9: New Factions, Changed Recruitment and more

    Quote Originally Posted by WeekendGeneral View Post
    Hi All,

    I have been super busy with real life, and I must admit I haven't done all that much work on buff and shine.
    I am currently tinkering on a large patch that addresses as many of the communities concerns as possible. If I could ask all of you a big favour could you please list what you like about the mod, what frustrates you or you hate and what is broken/bugged out.

    I'll read all of it, and I'll do my best to fix it - mostly.
    Hi Weekend,
    if you'd come back to modding, there're two programs that you might find useful to save time or make a thorough analysis.
    - program transforming EDU into a spreadsheet,
    - program making operations on parameters in EDU or other files.
    Just come back to us :-)
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