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    A single thought that lasts forever

    in this thought experiment we are simply removing all objects and seeing thought as a free flowing entity, singular yet simultaneously plural.

    imagine a single line of thought that enters your mind, then exits and immediately becomes a part of another thought-stream in someone or something else's mind. There is one line that veers off on a tangent with every dualism or change in meaning that it encounters, we may imagine this to be like a family tree of thought-streams. It doesn't like it when people 'butt in' to conversations as this is not going with the stream, to which we usually react aggressively, the disjointedness of discorse is due to distance i.e. The further away on the tree of thought-streams that people are on, then the more conflict shall arise. A proper discourse according to 'the line' will be where a theme is followed through without becoming disjointed, different branches of though trains will be brought into the fold without conflict. Although the line of thought runs on many parallels there remains a hollow epicentre - so to say, where the line wants to run as a single stream. This produces an effect like magnetism to present a general path, that in real terms equates as history.

    'the mind doesn't end after the thought'. Thoughts can be seen as like raindrops hitting the ocean of eternity, you think something you then right it down, is there a continuance. Do you get 'impressions' about people when you read their writings, does the personality carry on through?
    'Every thought has an action, every event a cause'. But not all thoughts are realised, thoughts are 'selected' in becoming actions, but do all thoughts have an effect? Sometimes i write something down then decide to delete it, then curiously i notice that the deleted sentence has had an effect almost as if i had said it, could it be that what ever happens on the line of thought, it produces a resonance or has an effect regardless of weather or not it is spoken. This effect i would think is proportional to the amount of presence it has in the mind, which would equate to the amount of time the thoughts are on the line. On another level every question has a given set of obvious answers, you will notice that in the course of a conversation, a line will form and the discourse will tend to follow that line, or at least a wiggly coil around its body.

    where the line begins and where it ends i don't know, however if it has a beginning and an end then it belongs to or is a single entity. It extends throughout existence, wherever there is mindfulness capable of thought. The meeting of two worlds [like if we had first contact with aliens] would be literally the meeting of two worlds or branches of thought, this is an extreme example similar to when two races meet for the first time or when different people meet in general terms either for the first time or after a long separation, usually there is awe or a sense of joy arises when mind worlds meet.

    We all know everyone. Do you ever get that feeling? When you meet a new person for the first time, there is an immediate recognition of entities that goes beyond considered thought, it is before we even think about anything that there is a 'knowing' that occurs. We see it all the time in nature, when creatures meet and they don't know what the other species is, yet sometimes one will attack and eat the other because it knows it is food, or they may not consider each other a threat or of any relevance and continue upon their way. The crocodile allows the bird to eat scraps of meat from around its teeth, did they sit down one day and have a conversation, deciding that it would be a jolly good thing for both parties to allow this to happen! When cows don't go near an electric fence, is it because they have told each other that it is dangerous, do birds tell each other that live electricity cables will electrocute them, no, it is due to the fact that they and all things belong to the one line that they know.

    When you think of it this forum all of its sections and subsections, are like a branch of the thought tree, together with the mods and the members [most of em], we do everything we can to hold to the line.

    ...a fun notion in the least wouldn't you say! :hmmm:
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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    Wow, this realy it theoetical, it relies on itself to such an extent that it puts religion to shame, it is utterly unproble and completly abstract.

    Its interesting, but in the same way as the notion of a creature with two brains is interesting. Its fun to think of, but not to act on.

    We all know everyone. Do you ever get that feeling? When you meet a new person for the first time, there is an immediate recognition of entities that goes beyond considered thought, it is before we even think about anything that there is a 'knowing' that occurs
    No, actualy I don't. More often then that I get the feeling I don't know someone who I actualy know very well, when things change in the way they act unexpectedly.

    We see it all the time in nature, when creatures meet and they don't know what the other species is, yet sometimes one will attack and eat the other because it knows it is food, or they may not consider each other a threat or of any relevance and continue upon their way.
    This is inbred genetic trait. For example a bear will attack a human in its cave, even if the human has a shotgun, the bear's genes do not recognise this as a threat and it continues regardless

    The crocodile allows the bird to eat scraps of meat from around its teeth, did they sit down one day and have a conversation, deciding that it would be a jolly good thing for both parties to allow this to happen!
    Its a mutualistic relationship. The birds see food on what looks vaguely like a log, the crocodile recognises them for being not worth the while and so dosn't waste energy on them.

    When cows don't go near an electric fence, is it because they have told each other that it is dangerous, do birds tell each other that live electricity cables will electrocute them,
    The cows learn through experience. They learn not to go near the fence. The birds know they won't get electrocuted through experience (no they dont get electrocuted, as the electricity has no where to go through them)

    no, it is due to the fact that they and all things belong to the one line that they know.
    Ever seen a bird fly into a window? I have, several times.

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    Default Re: A single thought that lasts forever

    hi silver guard

    More often then that I get the feeling I don't know someone who I actually know very well, when things change in the way they act unexpectedly.
    I know what you mean, the idea is that we are all on the one line thus we are all of the one, so in a sense the part of someone you truly know is the part that is the same as you. It is the same with likes and dislikes and how having similar attributes makes you feel like you know someone a little more – as you learn things about people you get to know those things. So yes some people you will feel like you know immediately; future lovers especially, many you may not it depends upon your disposition, some people are of the type that warm to others quickly etc y'know. I get the feeling you describe quite often too, is it that we think we know people because we are familiar with them in the main part, so when someone acts in a manner not of the line – at least as you knew it, then you are immediately set apart from them - in a manner.

    This is inbred genetic trait. For example a bear will attack a human in its cave, even if the human has a shotgun, the bears genes do not recognise this as a threat and it continues regardless
    it is yes, everything is part of the line, objects are the excretions of its thoughts :hmmm: . Some things are instantaneous though, like impressions one gets when we walk into a building for the first time.

    The birds see food on what looks vaguely like a log, the crocodile recognises them for being not worth the while and so dosn't waste energy on them
    nah, birds are clever enough to know what is and isn't a log, have you ever seen bluetits doing obstacle courses to get food! Do crocodiles think “oh that bird is too small, i wont bother with it” or do they not think of such things at all, they just go with the flow of the natural line as if it is a code that decides how things work together, get on or not etc.

    The cows learn through experience. They learn not to go near the fence
    ask an australian herder that; he may say that the cows cover thousands of square acre's of land, and don't necessarily see each other, not all of them would know through experience that the fence is electric. The birds wouldnt get electrocuted, hmm not if e.g. they touched each other whilst flapping their wings to create a circuit? Not sure on that one. Now watch swarms of birds dancing in the sky and tell me there is no connection! Ok they may be following leaders but it all happens like a dance that they all know yet make up as they go along y'know, their doesnt seam to be the time dilation required in following i.e. It would take a given amount of time to understand and react to the movements of the given leader, when actually they all seam to flow at once often with no apparent single leader.

    Yeah i have seam birds fly into windows, no accounting for stupidity generally though is there. Perhaps the universal glue of it all is purposefully or necessarily not that strong.

    Thank you for taking the time to read the post.

    It is quite an entertaining thought i find, that one could take away all the boundaries and the physicality of existence, yet all would remain the same in essence.
    Formerly quetzalcoatl. Proud leader of STW3 and member of the RTR, FATW and QNS teams.

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