Prince William, the King

[OG Grenadier]

As an Australian, son of an Englishman I have had a fascination with British royalty since I was a young fellow.

Should QE2 abdicate in deference to William? I, as so many members of the Commonwealth lament the loss of Diana. I am wonderfully impressed with William and Henry. Now is the time to proclaim a King.... watch Britain galvanize and rally under William. The strength of heart he is...

[Markas]

Not a Charles fan, then. Personally, I like Charles and his wacky but ernest opinions. The Queen always seems so reserved and lacking in opinion, its refreshing to have charles around even if as King his outspokeness may make him a little... undiplomatic.

[Cluny the Scourge]

You need help. As an Australian you should be contemptuous of an imposed constitutional interference on your sovereignty by a foreign power through a MONARCHY, never mind the tarted up degenerate clown-show that constitutes our current royal family. Australia won't even recognise them in good time - there will be another plebiscite eventually and you know the last one would have gone through if the draftees of the system to replace it hadn't been so incompetent.

As to the idea of Charles (or 'Edward' as it has been suggested he may name himself as King) being skipped over, that is not going to happen. Yes, the man's an adulterous, giblet-headed, mystical, New-Age, anti-scientific buffoon, but half the kings of England in the last 400 years have been idiots - it's in the degeneracy of the bloodlines. Most importantly of all such a step would mean the royal family openly ADMITTING their weakness, which at this stage of their development would be a critical injury. Their only hope now is to coast on by sheer inertia. Charles will be the next King (and probably within 5 years, judging from the way they seem to be gradually leaking suggestions of retirement from the Queen).

Diana was a drunken, random, chaotic, mentally disturbed harlequin who was screwing a drug-addict at the time her drunk-driver got her iced. Before she died in the crash she was a national joke. I was 15 when she died and I was profoundly disturbed by the effectivenessl with which blanket propaganda managed to completely subvert the truth about her in less than 24 hours - any criticism of the absurd hypocrisy behind the 'national mourning' was shouted down (i.e. the edition of 'Private Eye' whose cover-story ridiculed it was actually banned from the shelves). The sinisterness of this kind of garbage sickened me.

Deeply impressed with William and Henry? William is completely normal, unremarkable and unimaginative. He's famous because he's royal and the media loves celebrity, so even AUSTRALIANS get the idea there's something admirable about him. Since he doesn't actually appear to be mentally defective as his father is, I have no doubt that he will do 'a good job' as King - meaning that he appear on state occasions looking constipatedly solemn, open new supermarkets by cutting the ribbon with dutifully careful strokes, and above all keep his mouth shut (and that last is the only thing a constitutional figurehead monarch actually NEEDS to do - and the test by which Charles is going to fail so totally).

And Harry is merely a thuggish yob.

[Markas]

You need help. As an Australian you should be contemptuous of an imposed constitutional interference on your sovereignty by a foreign power through a MONARCHY, never mind the tarted up degenerate clown-show that constitutes our current royal family. Australia won't even recognise them in good time - there will be another plebiscite eventually and you know the last one would have gone through if the draftees of the system to replace it hadn't been so incompetent.

As to the idea of Charles (or 'Edward' as it has been suggested he may name himself as King) being skipped over, that is not going to happen. Yes, the man's an adulterous, giblet-headed, mystical, New-Age, anti-scientific buffoon, but half the kings of England in the last 400 years have been idiots - it's in the degeneracy of the bloodlines. Most importantly of all such a step would mean the royal family openly ADMITTING their weakness, which at this stage of their development would be a critical injury. Their only hope now is to coast on by sheer inertia. Charles will be the next King (and probably within 5 years, judging from the way they seem to be gradually leaking suggestions of retirement from the Queen).

Diana was a drunken, random, chaotic, mentally disturbed harlequin who was screwing a drug-addict at the time her drunk-driver got her iced. Before she died in the crash she was a national joke. I was 15 when she died and I was profoundly disturbed by the effectivenessl with which blanket propaganda managed to completely subvert the truth about her in less than 24 hours - any criticism of the absurd hypocrisy behind the 'national mourning' was shouted down (i.e. the edition of 'Private Eye' whose cover-story ridiculed it was actually banned from the shelves). The sinisterness of this kind of garbage sickened me.

Deeply impressed with William and Henry? William is completely normal, unremarkable and unimaginative. He's famous because he's royal and the media loves celebrity, so even AUSTRALIANS get the idea there's something admirable about him. Since he doesn't actually appear to be mentally defective as his father is, I have no doubt that he will do 'a good job' as King - meaning that he appear on state occasions looking constipatedly solemn, open new supermarkets by cutting the ribbon with dutifully careful strokes, and above all keep his mouth shut (and that last is the only thing a constitutional figurehead monarch actually NEEDS to do - and the test by which Charles is going to fail so totally).

And Harry is merely a thuggish yob.

Not a Monarchy fan, then.

[VALIS]

Diana was a drunken, random, chaotic, mentally disturbed harlequin who was screwing a drug-addict at the time her drunk-driver got her iced. Before she died in the crash she was a national joke. I was 15 when she died and I was profoundly disturbed by the effectivenessl with which blanket propaganda managed to completely subvert the truth about her in less than 24 hours - any criticism of the absurd hypocrisy behind the 'national mourning' was shouted down (i.e. the edition of 'Private Eye' whose cover-story ridiculed it was actually banned from the shelves). The sinisterness of this kind of garbage sickened me.

i completely agree!
she had indeed fell out of public favour by the time of her death, and then all of a sudden when she died she was the 'peoples princess' !?

anyway. Charles isn't too bad,a bit of a stiff but he'll do fine.
i personally dont like William but i suppose he wouldn't wreck the country if he became monarch.

[OG Grenadier]

Oh that's quite alright. One must anticipate such posts.

[Cluny the Scourge]

If you pull your trousers down at a dinner party, moon at everyone and reveal that you painted a frowning face on your buttocks before you turned up that evening, then you can expect someone to comment negatively to that effect. Same deal.

And referring to yourself as 'one' kind of blows your cover by raising your foam-metre too many notches toward the red-zone. Anymore and you'll dribble.

[OG Grenadier]

You don't get to SW10 , all that often... do you chum.

[imb39]

The Queen should not abdicate at all. She won't either.

As for Charles, I happen to think he'll fine, so long as he curbs his political streak.

Give William a chance. He's in his early twenties and still being groomed, though whether the throne will be around when he is elligible is anyone's guess.

I regard this as political - so off to the 'Pit with ye' - El Cid

[Lord Consul]

Is there actually any chance of Britain turning into a Republic in the next decades? The mere idea makes me, a brazilian of scottish descent, shiver.

We all know that Diana was nothing but an overy-publicized jet-set star, and that Charles is terribly lacking in terms of political wit and charisma, but the monarchy is such an ancient tradition, and so embedded into the british psyche, that I find the idea of a republic completely... incompatible.

That's opinion of a foreigner though. And I've only been to England twice.

[Mr Tuna]

But Monarchy still stays cool.
And we Dutch need a king soon.
We've had 3 queens In a row and our crown-prince (the queens oldest kid a son here) got 2 daughters so that means atleast 1 queen after him.

[Tom Paine]

As an Australian, son of an Englishman I have had a fascination with British royalty since I was a young fellow.

Should QE2 abdicate in deference to William? I, as so many members of the Commonwealth lament the loss of Diana. I am wonderfully impressed with William and Henry. Now is the time to proclaim a King.... watch Britain galvanize and rally under William. The strength of heart he is...

Um... she can't. She can abdicate in favour of Charlieboy, but not William; and I honestly hope she doesn't. Charles is too political and too much a figure of public fun for it to be a good idea to have him running the show.

[OG Grenadier]

Um... she can't. She can abdicate in favour of Charlieboy, but not William; and I honestly hope she doesn't. Charles is too political and too much a figure of public fun for it to be a good idea to have him running the show.

Yes I have heard that, but it's not something that can't be changed by many accounts.

[LoZz]

i think the queens husband, the duke! should be king, man is so funny.

i think charles should abdicate to his eldest son, purely because the royal family, if its to suvive needs a popular leader like QE2, and charles just is not, but his sons i think are much more liked because we have seen their human side (drunk students).

i think diana, if she was alive should of been next, i know she was only related by marrage but, meh hasnt stop them before!

[Tom Paine]

Actually... it has. She would have been had she been a living member of the Royal Family Charles's Queen. Meaning we'd get Charlieboy as a monarch. No go area for me.

[Manji]

As far as I know, semi-salic primogeniture laws prevent Queen Elizabeth from abdicating in favor of William, (who is a grandson) because the title is directly inherited by Charles (who is the son), she can't override the primogeniture laws. I might be mistaken though.

[Sit down, fat dog]

OP is Happy Bunnies! if ever there was some. The Queen has already begun relegating official duties to Prince Charles in antipicitation for her pseudo-retirement, but there will be no King until she dies, and even then it will be Charles.

And what's so good about William?

[The Alcotroll]

He's in the Army.


That's about it.


If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.





Oh yeah, and he's not Charles.

[Sit down, fat dog]

He's in the Army.


That's about it.


If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.





Oh yeah, and he's not Charles.

Oh wow, something even more 'happy bunnies' than the OP. William will be serving in Iraq, or Helmund then?

[the Black Prince]

unfortunately, the queen cannot abdicate in favour of anyone.

if (and she never will) the queen abdicates, the next in line for the throne will take it... Prince Charles, King George VII