Unlimited ammunition?

**Funkela** · April 13, 2016, 10:18 AM

I'm playing with the Greek colony of Crimea, and my main city gets attacked by the scythian army which consist only of cavalry units. At start my archers kill some of them and then go dry on arrows, but the scythians just keep shoot, even killing my units that are guarding the gates behind the

ing walls. That goes on for about 30 min, they just keep shooting and then they burn down the gate. So if someone can explain to me if that is realistic?

**Ygraine** · April 13, 2016, 10:28 AM

They don't have unlimited ammunition - but when several units stand inside each other only a few soldiers will fire. So to exhaust the ammo reserve it will take a lot more time but it also means only a few arrows per volley will be fired.

**Funkela** · April 13, 2016, 10:35 AM

Yeah, but my archers have 18 ammunition, and the scythians about 21 I think, so how is it possible that they keep firing 10-15 min after my archers run dry, they even wiped out my archers on the walls. It was really frustrating, not to say battling them on clear land is almost not possible. But still I am playing on very hard, so it is interesting.

**Ygraine** · April 13, 2016, 10:42 AM

They get a bonus to their ammo count, yes. As for garrison archers, they should have more ammo as ammunition is stored in the city/town - something I solved in my pack by increasing all garrison units ammo. Also from a realistic point of view, horse archers should have more arrows than foot-archers, since the horses could carry many more quivers.

As far as I know difficulty of AI doesn't increase ammo counts.

**KAM 2150** · April 13, 2016, 10:45 AM

Never had such thing in my games. The ammo is shared among entire unit so if a unit has 120 guys in it and they have 21 ammo, it means the total ammo of the squad is 2520 arrows. When not entire unit has a clear line of sight, only some of the guys will use the ammo. Let us say that only 10 guys can use their bows, with around 6 shots per minute it means that they will use 60 arrows per minute. 2520 divided by 60 is 42, which means 42 minutes of non stop shooting by those 10 guys. Going by math, it means that in your game, that archer squad had a clear line of sight for around 15 guys on average (sometimes maybe 25 other time maybe only 5 guys).

**Ygraine** · April 13, 2016, 11:05 AM

Pretty much what I meant. AI often blobs their ranged ontop of each other and then only some will fire, draining the ammunition-pool way slower than otherwise.

**Funkela** · April 13, 2016, 11:30 AM

Yeah I agree that the cavalry should have more ammunition. It is possiblesome of them started shooting later, but still its tough, they kill my units pretty quickly. I managed to beat them, but these royal scythians are super hard to kill, had to lure them into the city and then incircle them.