Premium setup and still lag? WTF?

[Screamsofdeath]

My rig:

1. Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
2. CPU: Intel Core i5 4690k OC:ed to 4,2 Ghz. I could go to 4,7 Ghz, but I like things quiet.
3. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, the EVGA SSC (supersuperclocked) version.
4. Memory: Kingston HyperX at 2133 Mhz.
5. Samsung SSD EVO 120 GB as my system drive and 2 TB of storage upon that.

My problem: I can max out the game easily - as I can do with almost every game I throw at the system - but not with large or huge unit scale. As soon as I use that scale of units, things gets really choppy. I've paid 14K+ and my system can max out Battlefield 3, 4 and Hardline. Heck, it's near maxing out Crysis 3. If Empire Total war were not so laggy and I'd not get so frustrated about it, I'd get at least minimum 100 fps on ultra settings - minimum. Rome II is a different matter, but even at max settings, that game looks horrible anyway, so I don't even open the game anymore.

It seems to me that something is horribly wrong here. This game was made in 2005. And yes, I've seen the argument where people say: - whoa broh, only because it's an old game doesn't mean it's not demanding.
Yeah, if you're on a laptop with integrated graphics and a CPU core clock at 2,5 Ghz and 2 GB of RAM, I would understand that argument. I honestly wonder if they used NASA:s computers to make this game? 2 000-troop battles with this system? Are you kidding me? With huge unit scale, the fps can drop down to less than 30. What the ?

I know the game is more CPU dependent - almost only CPU dependent - but lets face it, my i5 just shreds any CPU that existed in 2005. So I better get a call to NASA to max out the game with large - or huge - unitscale, right?

Does anyone know a way to get rid of the lag, or should I - after upgrading my system so many times I can't even remember anymore - just give up on the game? I think it's the best Total War game so far, but if I can't find a solution on this, I just give up. Why does every Total War game have these issues? Seriously. One begins to wonder wether the programmers and artists actually gets paid, because the quality of the game's performance is just horrible. Pathetic, is how I would really put it.

[♔atthias♔]

My rig:

1. Motherboard: MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition
2. CPU: Intel Core i5 4690k OC:ed to 4,2 Ghz. I could go to 4,7 Ghz, but I like things quiet.
3. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, the EVGA SSC (supersuperclocked) version.
4. Memory: Kingston HyperX at 2133 Mhz.
5. Samsung SSD EVO 120 GB as my system drive and 2 TB of storage upon that.

My problem: I can max out the game easily - as I can do with almost every game I throw at the system - but not with large or huge unit scale. As soon as I use that scale of units, things gets really choppy. I've paid 14K+ and my system can max out Battlefield 3, 4 and Hardline. Heck, it's near maxing out Crysis 3. If Empire Total war were not so laggy and I'd not get so frustrated about it, I'd get at least minimum 100 fps on ultra settings - minimum. Rome II is a different matter, but even at max settings, that game looks horrible anyway, so I don't even open the game anymore.

It seems to me that something is horribly wrong here. This game was made in 2005. And yes, I've seen the argument where people say: - whoa broh, only because it's an old game doesn't mean it's not demanding.
Yeah, if you're on a laptop with integrated graphics and a CPU core clock at 2,5 Ghz and 2 GB of RAM, I would understand that argument. I honestly wonder if they used NASA:s computers to make this game? 2 000-troop battles with this system? Are you kidding me? With huge unit scale, the fps can drop down to less than 30. What the ?

I know the game is more CPU dependent - almost only CPU dependent - but lets face it, my i5 just shreds any CPU that existed in 2005. So I better get a call to NASA to max out the game with large - or huge - unitscale, right?

Does anyone know a way to get rid of the lag, or should I - after upgrading my system so many times I can't even remember anymore - just give up on the game? I think it's the best Total War game so far, but if I can't find a solution on this, I just give up. Why does every Total War game have these issues? Seriously. One begins to wonder wether the programmers and artists actually gets paid, because the quality of the game's performance is just horrible. Pathetic, is how I would really put it.

try this look under large adress aware http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...Guide-for-TATW
and this http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-on-windows-10

[Screamsofdeath]

I was like, does this guy think I'm ing stupid? I'm gonna produce an epic rant in 3, 2, 1. But then I found the Large Adress Aware.exe. Seems logical that the system is basically starving on RAM and hence, cannot handle larger unit scale. I will try that one out for sure. I will look into the other link as well and I'll come back with the results. Thank you sir. If this makes me being able to use at least large scale units, I'm more than willing to kiss your feet. If it makes me being able to use huge scale units, I'm gonna be your forever <3

[♔atthias♔]

I was like, does this guy think I'm ing stupid? I'm gonna produce an epic rant in 3, 2, 1. But then I found the Large Adress Aware.exe. Seems logical that the system is basically starving on RAM and hence, cannot handle larger unit scale. I will try that one out for sure. I will look into the other link as well and I'll come back with the results. Thank you sir. If this makes me being able to use at least large scale units, I'm more than willing to kiss your feet. If it makes me being able to use huge scale units, I'm gonna be your forever <3

BTW use LAA also for newer TW games can help also a lot for me it does atleast

[Ngugi]

I know the game is more CPU dependent - almost only CPU dependent - but lets face it, my i5 just shreds any CPU that existed in 2005.

Shall be noted that you can have 20 cores, the M2 engine don't give a jack, nor about how many grands your rig cost. It uses one core, and no more, thus older computers with few but one solid core can perform better than more modern computers with more, but individually less capable, cores.

[♔atthias♔]

Shall be noted that you can have 20 cores, the M2 engine don't give a jack, nor about how many grands your rig cost. It uses one core, and no more, thus older computers with few but one solid core can perform better than more modern computers with more, but individually less capable, cores.

I can run MTW2 at max having a AMD 3,10 ghz core without lag while he has Intel 4,5 ghz so i doubt that is the problem unless I am wrong

[ElvenKind]

If you are on Windows 10, try also to run medieval2.exe in a Windows 7 Compatibility mod.

[Veteraan]

Well, ghz numbers don't say everything about core speed. The architecture of the different cores also plays a role. However, you are right, the CPU is very likely not causing this.
As I understand it, the problem occurs when battles are played. Normally I would suggest that the video card drivers may be the problem, but as other games are working fine that too is unlikely. Perhaps it has something to do with the directX 9 install, or the absence of it.