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    I'm 160 turns in a Numidian campaign and I'm sorry to say that I have the same problem as Assur Nikator. Before continuing I must precise that it's not my first campaign with Numidia and that I already achieved the reform in anterior versions of EBII. However, in 2.3 I simply wasn't able to stop Steppe Nomadism going up. It's probably because of the very high Influence governors I've left there for many turns but it's frustrating nonetheless. I'm going to start a new campaign in which I will be paying close attention to culture variations. I'll let you know if I'm able to convert.
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  2. #82

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    Enclaves... I'm a noob.

  3. #83

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    Ok, I tried again without Governor nor Enclave and I think there is something wrong. It seems that "Steppe Nomadism" increases too fast to let the player the time to develop the settlement to the required tier.

    In my test campaign, I was able to build the "Mid-scale nomad farms" in Capsa by turn 74, but the nomadic culture was at 57% which means that with a Governor, it would have been significantly higher preventing me from upgrading the farms. Furthermore, once the conversion made (by turn 92), Capsa was brought back to a "Governed Tribe" government. Is it intentional?
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    The conversion was impossible in Sigan because when I finally reached the "Uniform Pastoralism" tier by turn 90, the "Steppe Nomadism" culture was already at 66%. Once again, this is without the influence of a Governor. It must also be noted that in Sigan, the conversion rate was two if not three times higher than in Capsa (e.g. by turn 85 it was 33% in Sigan against 16% in Capsa).
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    My guess is that nomad farms are not working as intended. The description says that they're supposed to convert to "Eastern Tribalism" but 1) I couldn't find any trace of a new culture and 2) does a conversion towards "Eastern Tribalism" make sense in the case of Numidia? I was also wondering why the conversion rate was constantly increasing despite the absence of a Governor or a conversion building?

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    Default Re: Converting camps to cities and nomadic factions to settled ones

    Neighbouring regions, the founding faction and the owning faction all impact conversion as well (though less than governors or fast-conversion from a specific building).

    The farms don't convert to Eastern Tribal for Numidia, only for Nabatu/Saka/Pahlava.

  5. #85

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    Thanks for the answer. If there is no way to decrease nomadic culture except building an Allied government, how is the player supposed to meet the requirements for building nomad farms as Numidia?

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    I have the same problem as you. I ended up giving up on my numidian game. It's not exactly rational to leave regions devoid of governors and hope for factors you cant control to maybe allign at some point. I had no problem converting the camps as Carthage though...
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    I'll have a talk to the team about whether Numidia merits some conversion in the Urban Administration building to counter the pre-reform conversion to Steppe Pastoralism.

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    Not to hijack this convo, but aside from the related stat boosts, in the current build is there any notable incentive to convert from camp to settlement as the Sweboz?

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    You can build more stuff in a city than a camp, and that's it. Also most of the convertible camps in Germany don't really provide a lot of cavalry. However, on the other hand, you will have more public order penalty from distance to capital, and possibly more corruption, I am not sure how exactly this works.

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    I have the same problem as the other guys. Please help me, I conquered almost whole Africa, only left The Faction that shall not be named in their capitol of the same name, and part of Egypt. Yet, I can't convert, even if almost all my provinces are actual (Greek and Semitic) cities. Any help is appreciated. My Steppe nomadism is growing and is 71% in Sigan and 68% in the staring camp.



    Edit: at this point, cheats are a fair game.
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