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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    That's a 2nd Century AD Spatha.
    Okay, I will save it for my ROME II Casus Belli project.

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    Does anyone know where this Orbiculus may be based on, if it all?: http://www.armae.com/Photos/Broderie...Orbiculi_A.jpg
    This one looks similar but is not the same: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...80ff80adb3.jpg

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    Yeah, you got it. That pattern is really popular amongst reenactors for Orbiculi.

    I wanted to address some things I saw in your modpack:

    1. Leather Armor. No. It's BS, never use it. End of discussion.

    2. Attic Helmets: The best interpretation we have, is that this was an Intercisa-style ridge helmet with an attic brow thingy. There's an example from Richborough dating to 280 AD which seems to suggest it had one.

    I also had an idea that we can use the Attila "upgrade system" to take late 4th century units and turn them into mid-5th century units. Make it purely a cosmetic thing.

    Some ideas for Early 5th Century Romans for you to model off of:

    Patrick Stritter, Felices Seniores. Check out all the details too, like the dolphins on his belt, etc. etc. His impression is amazing, late 4th century:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 




    Tragularii (Ballista Operators) from Marle, 2015:

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    Late Roman Marine (Muscularius or Classarius), Comitatus Reenactment Group:

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    Close-up of an Intercisa-IV Type Helmet:

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    Mid 5th Century, Placidi Valentiniani Felices, Evan Schultheis (me) and some closeups of my kit:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Late 4th Century Crossbow Fibula (Yeah I need a 5th Century One):



    Boots from the Vergilius Vaticanus 5th Century Romano-British Manuscript:



    Late Roman Tunica Manicata:



    The Tenes Horde Belt (c. 430 AD):



    My shield (finally painted):



    (Yes I will be getting better armor very soon. That's just crappy butted maille I've been borrowing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    Yeah, you got it. That pattern is really popular amongst reenactors for Orbiculi.

    I wanted to address some things I saw in your modpack:

    1. Leather Armor. No. It's BS, never use it. End of discussion.

    2. Attic Helmets: The best interpretation we have, is that this was an Intercisa-style ridge helmet with an attic brow thingy. There's an example from Richborough dating to 280 AD which seems to suggest it had one.

    I also had an idea that we can use the Attila "upgrade system" to take late 4th century units and turn them into mid-5th century units. Make it purely a cosmetic thing.

    Some ideas for Early 5th Century Romans for you to model off of:

    Patrick Stritter, Felices Seniores. Check out all the details too, like the dolphins on his belt, etc. etc. His impression is amazing, late 4th century:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 




    Tragularii (Ballista Operators) from Marle, 2015:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Late Roman Marine (Muscularius or Classarius), Comitatus Reenactment Group:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Close-up of an Intercisa-IV Type Helmet:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Mid 5th Century, Placidi Valentiniani Felices, Evan Schultheis (me) and some closeups of my kit:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Late 4th Century Crossbow Fibula (Yeah I need a 5th Century One):



    Boots from the Vergilius Vaticanus 5th Century Romano-British Manuscript:



    Late Roman Tunica Manicata:



    The Tenes Horde Belt (c. 430 AD):



    My shield (finally painted):



    (Yes I will be getting better armor very soon. That's just crappy butted maille I've been borrowing)
    Yeah, I have already changed my mind on the rawhide armour and the attic style helmet. Not going to use them.
    And thanks for the pictures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post


    Late Roman Marine (Muscularius or Classarius), Comitatus Reenactment Group:

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    Falx? Interesting. Were the Falx adopted by the Roman Navy Marines in a quite widespread manner, or just used by units from Thrace? Was it used as a battle weapon, or just a utility tool like machete? Something like most Roman soldiers would have dolabra, but not using it in battle?

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    The Falx is recorded by late Roman authors to have been useful in marine actions, yes. It was used in combat and for utility, and was not exclusive to Roman Thracia or Moesia. It could be found on the Rhine, in Britain, and presumably in the Naval Fleets and on the Tigris and Euphrates too.

    The Romans were not shy when it came to adopting a useful technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    The Falx is recorded by late Roman authors to have been useful in marine actions, yes. It was used in combat and for utility, and was not exclusive to Roman Thracia or Moesia. It could be found on the Rhine, in Britain, and presumably in the Naval Fleets and on the Tigris and Euphrates too.

    The Romans were not shy when it came to adopting a useful technology.
    That's interesting.

    And I have a quick Intercisa helmet question:
    Why do we see this way of stitching so rarely?: http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/p...m/Mainz248.jpg Or why exactly is it supposed that the leather was also stitched on to the outside?

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    The leather was stitched around the outside. There are some examples with leather fragments that show that.

    Also there are many helmet crest interpretations I would not trust... that one being one of them. We've found examples with helmet crest slots and if they had metal crestboxes, the boxes would have survived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    The leather was stitched around the outside. There are some examples with leather fragments that show that.

    Also there are many helmet crest interpretations I would not trust... that one being one of them. We've found examples with helmet crest slots and if they had metal crestboxes, the boxes would have survived.
    Ah okay, yes that makes sense.

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    The Iatrus Helmet, early 5th Century

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    The Iatrus Helmet, early 5th Century

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    I have had a look at their website, they do have some stunning reconstructions there.


    And here is a wip preview of a new round shield model I have been working on, in this case with the pattern of the Domestici Equites. The textures will be finished tomorrow.

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    Why is the handle vertical? Handles were horizontal, across the width of the oval, not the length.

    Or is that shield circular, or is it the angle? It looks kinda funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magister Militum Flavius Aetius View Post
    Why is the handle vertical? Handles were horizontal, across the width of the oval, not the length.

    Or is that shield circular, or is it the angle? It looks kinda funny.
    That might be the angle or the orthographic view. It's not an oval shield this time but a circular one. So yes, the handle is in fact horizontal.

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    Textures are now finished:



    You can also take a look at my Sketchfab Casus Belli Mod Pack Collection and view this model among others in a PBR 3D environment.

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    This is not anything final or something like that, it's just a test and my first real attempt at creating a tunic and chainmail model. Any suggestions for a redone version?

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    Default Re: Total War: ATTILA - Casus Belli Mod Pack

    Sleeves are a good length. Should be a bit longer, to the kneecap. Maille was split up the front/back (not the sides as most people believe) for mobility.

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    Something different this time, a Lituus model, still wip:


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    Might it be possible to import Napoleons trumpeteer-animation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinusLinothorax View Post
    Might it be possible to import Napoleons trumpeteer-animation?
    Not sure, never modded Napoleon. It might be problematic. But I could try to create a new little animation myself at some point. But that's not a top priority right now.

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    Default Re: Total War: ATTILA - Casus Belli Mod Pack

    New leaf bladed Verutum javelin head in the works:


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