"Disciplined" why does it exist?

[BreadBuax]

Normally in total war games,the death of an enemy general confers a advantage and after I first played Rome 2 I have to say I am frankly shocked to find out the hard way that killing an enemy general does absolutely nothing at all most of the time.

On closer examination,the vast majority of the "civilized" units has the trait "disciplined",which means no morale penalty after general death.

This is frankly idiotic if it does exactly what it says,no amount of training will ever prepare a fighting man for the loss of command,this makes as much sense as units not receiving flanking penalties.

I love this mod,but small issues such as these simply ruins the experience for me.Is there anyway of modding this heinous trait out of DEI units?

[The Tribunal]

What gets me about this trait is that the majority of the units that do have it aren't in complete synchronization when in formation, troops are never lined up in straight lines.

[TFCAliarcy]

Disciplined also increases the chance of a unit returning from routing which can be crucial in a slugout.

[Com_James_Bond]

"Disciplined" is a great trait and quite realistic. A roman unit did not just run away because there general was dead. The structure of the army was still intact (centurions) and the highest officer replaced the general.

[FlashHeart07]

Disciplined does not necessarily mean that you keep a completely straight line at all times. You are good at keeping the formation but terrain will always cause small differences in the formation. Even today soldiers are capable of continue fighting with the loss of a commander due to the reasons also explained by Com.
But yes it is possible to remove this unit trait.

[BreadBuax]

Disciplined does not necessarily mean that you keep a completely straight line at all times. You are good at keeping the formation but terrain will always cause small differences in the formation. Even today soldiers are capable of continue fighting with the loss of a commander due to the reasons also explained by Com.
But yes it is possible to remove this unit trait.

I'd grateful if you could point me towards the db section where I should be editing,
Also could I remove the no morale penalty upon general death but retain the better rally chances?

[zonks40]

If a General dies and units that have the disciplined trait do not suffer a penalty, wouldn't those units still lose any morale bonus that the General gave to those units before his death?

[BreadBuax]

I'm not saying the entire army should disintegrate upon general death.It just seems to no significance at all.

What I'm saying is that having Most of the roster been completely immune to the consequences(basically none most of the time) of failing to protect the most important individual of the army is both unrealistic and bad game design.

Espacially considering that the morale penalty towards even undisciplined troops are already painfully insignificant.

If you were to open DEI with pfm,the ai suffers -10 morale upon general death and a measly -5 in the long run.(Melee Units generally have 50+ morale)

[KAM 2150]

AI generals are suicidal and if there would be big penalties for it, you would win without moving yoru army at all.

[FlashHeart07]

I have no access to PFM atm but its fairly easy to find. Just look for something like unit_abilities

[dahooscarl]

Enemy general death seems to have a huge affect on exhausted or already wavering troops. Consider the general s death less a way to break the enemy at the start and more of the last nail in the coffin at the end.