War Weariness.

**GRANTO** · February 13, 2016, 03:23 AM

will war weariness be added to dei in the fututre ?{as an accumulative mid-later campaign difficulty factor}

**Magas of Cyrene** · February 13, 2016, 05:00 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in this time period there was weariness if no wars were currently waged

**GRANTO** · February 13, 2016, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by Commodore

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in this time period there was weariness if no wars were currently waged

lol yeah ok ...peace weariness

**GRANTO** · February 13, 2016, 05:14 AM

i was thinking it could work as more of an inflation type scripting.

**Litharion** · February 13, 2016, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by GRANTO

will war weariness be added to dei in the fututre ?{as an accumulative mid-later campaign difficulty factor}

A ported script from Attila is available here. It is easy to make it work with DeI.

We discussed the subject and currently we won't add it into our campaign systems. The next big addition in terms of gameplay changers will be the Manpower system.

**GRANTO** · February 13, 2016, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Litharion

A ported script from Attila is available here. It is easy to make it work with DeI.

We discussed the subject and currently we won't add it into our campaign systems. The next big addition in terms of gameplay changers will be the Manpower system.

look forward to it

**Maetharin** · February 13, 2016, 09:33 AM

I think war weariness is already somewhat present with the economical effects of recruiting and upholding armies.
But one of the most interesting concepts is the one from the Greeks at War team, recently renamed into Hellenika (Ἑλληνικά)^^

I also certainly will look into the link Litharion provided, looks interesting enough!

Best regards

Edit: Here´s another link to another mod from the same author as Litharion mentioned, rather cool^^

Btw who knew that Charlemagne´s war weariness was written by .Mitch.? xD

**Litharion** · February 13, 2016, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Maetharin

Btw who knew that Charlemagne´s war weariness was written by .Mitch.? xD

I did

You are right some of the features Hellenika (Greeks at War) is going to introduce are exciting.

**Magas of Cyrene** · February 13, 2016, 10:32 AM

But does it really make sense historically? It seems like something rather anachronistic and more suited to present times and liberal democracy. The Roman society was very used to war, after all they were fighting pretty much all the time and long periods of peace were rather rare until Pax Romana. Triumphs were huge public fetes and gladiatorial games were very popular. Not to mention that wars brought slaves and money.

Greeks, too, were fighting all the time. As for barbarians - well, I don't think most of them they knew the term "war weariness" at all.

**GRANTO** · February 13, 2016, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Commodore

But does it really make sense historically? It seems like something rather anachronistic and more suited to present times and liberal democracy. The Roman society was very used to war, after all they were fighting pretty much all the time and long periods of peace were rather rare until Pax Romana. Triumphs were huge public fetes and gladiatorial games were very popular. Not to mention that wars brought slaves and money.

Greeks, too, were fighting all the time. As for barbarians - well, I don't think most of them they knew the term "war weariness" at all.

yeah sure , im just thinking of it as a game mechanic kinda way and added depth.

**Litharion** · February 13, 2016, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Commodore

But does it really make sense historically? It seems like something rather anachronistic and more suited to present times and liberal democracy. The Roman society was very used to war, after all they were fighting pretty much all the time and long periods of peace were rather rare until Pax Romana. Triumphs were huge public fetes and gladiatorial games were very popular. Not to mention that wars brought slaves and money.

Greeks, too, were fighting all the time. As for barbarians - well, I don't think most of them they knew the term "war weariness" at all.

Yes, I agree that is why we have not included it yet and don't plan to do so.

**Dresden** · February 13, 2016, 02:21 PM

We could do a submod maybe at some point. We are also considering adding some other effects to imperium level to make the late game more of a challenge.

**GRANTO** · February 13, 2016, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dresden

We could do a submod maybe at some point. We are also considering adding some other effects to imperium level to make the late game more of a challenge.

Excellent!! im really enjoying the mod , The teams time and hard work is much appreciated.