making a army apper in strat map i turn and message appears

[Clanish]

Hello all moders, sorry my noob question but i´m a begginer in moding, i would like to make a rebel army appear in turn x, in x point of the map and a warning event message appears, but i don´t know how , is it possible?Can someone help me in this matter? i thank you all

[Gigantus]

I do hope you have some basic experience in scripting, else this might be a tad confusing:
The entry in the world\maps\base\campaign\imperial_campaign\campaign_script.txt file, place it right below the line at the top that says 'script':

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
   and I_TurnNumber = [turn number]
   historic_event [message name]
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction [faction name]
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 191, y 52
            unit        [unit name]        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
    terminate_monitor
end_monitor

Some explanations what to enter in the box brackets:
[turn number] - a simple number (no decimals), turn numbers start with zero for the first turn
[message name] - the title of your warning message, has to be one word, underscore is allowed, eg my_warning
[faction name] - a faction's name as it appears in the descr_sm_factions.txt file. The spawn will still be a rebel spawn but requires a regular faction entry
[unit name] - the name taken from the type entry in the unit's entry in the export_descr_units.txt file
Blue are the co-ordinate numbers for the spawn. You can get those numbers during a game by placing your cursor on the spot you would like the spawn to happen. Then press the tilde button ( ~ ) and a console will appear. Here you type show_cursorstat and press enter (see pic). Write down the numbers and replace the x and y values with it.




Now we need to take care of the message stuff: open the data\text\historic_events.txt file in your mod and enter the following at the bottom (you obviously have to replace the boxy bracket entry with your entry from the script):

{[message name in capital letters]_TITLE}Add a short title
{[message name in capital letters]_BODY}Here you can type a good amount of text, if it is too much to fit into the game's message window then it can be scrolled

Note: it is possible to add a locator button (the magnifying glass) to the message as explained here, but that might be a bit complex for the beginning.

[Miguel_80]

Hello. For example, in "campaign_script.txt":

	monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
		and I_TurnNumber = 15

		spawn_army 
			faction slave
			character	Isaac, named character, age 26, x 174, y 105
			traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1, GoodCommander 2
			unit		NE Bodyguard		exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Mailed Knights		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Mailed Knights		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Sergeant Spearmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Sergeant Spearmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Sergeant Spearmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Peasant Crossbowmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Peasant Crossbowmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
		end

		historic_event rebels_aparition

		terminate_monitor
	end_monitor

In "historic_events.txt" file, add this:

{REBELS_APARITION_BODY}Description...
{REBELS_APARITION_TITLE}Title

[QuintusSertorius]

Also note the name of the general is vitally important - either use random_name (safest) or one from the Rebel list in the descr_names.

[Gigantus]

You need the 'sub_faction' entry

[Miguel_80]

You need the 'sub_faction' entry

Doesn't work in the script, only serves to "descr_strat"

Sample:

	monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType slave
		and I_TurnNumber > 1

		spawn_army 
			faction slave, sub_faction spain
			character	random_name, named character, age 26, x 174, y 105
			traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1, GoodCommander 2
			unit		NE Bodyguard		exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Mailed Knights		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Mailed Knights		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Sergeant Spearmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Sergeant Spearmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Sergeant Spearmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Peasant Crossbowmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
			unit		Peasant Crossbowmen		exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
		end

		historic_event rebels_aparition

		terminate_monitor
	end_monitor

"descr_names.txt", in Spain faction doesn't exists this name, (Desakenthos)

faction: slave

	characters
		El_Cid
		Fernan
		Salvador
		Primus
		Secundus
		Sextus
		Spartacus	
		Solomon
		Pontius
		Abraham
		Isaac
		Esau
		Moses
		Aaron
		Nautius
		Oxynta
		Juva
		Jubal
		Abdimilki
		Abascantus
		Decemius
		Posthumus
		Dentupes
		Deopus
		Desakenthos
		Diazelmis
		Diazenis
		Rhaskos
		Rhaskuporis
		Rescuturme
		Rhesus
		Satres
		Sautes
		Skaris
		Skílas

	women

"names.txt"

...
{Dertosa}Dertosa
{Dervis_e}Dervis'e
{Derya}Derya
{Desakenthos}Desaquento
{Descriua}Descriua
{Despenser}Despenser
{Destefani}Destefani
...

[Gigantus]

The random name will always be taken from the 'slave' section - no argument. If you have different rebel banners for each culture then the army will carry the banner of the culture the sub faction belongs to. It will also use the sub faction's accent in battle.

I had a picture from the 1648 development where I spawned several slave armies next to each other, all with a different culture and hence with different banner symbols. Not sure if I can manage to recover it from imageshack.


Edit: found it, now at photobucket



rebel_standard 0 (descr_cultures) is the top left symbol in the data\banner\symbol7.tga graphics

[Miguel_80]

Yes, but they are placed through by the "descr_strat.txt" file. By script, you can't choose sub-faction. The culture depends of the "descr_regions.txt" file.

descr_strat.txt

character	sub_faction spain, Fernando, named character, male, age 26, x 170, y 105
traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodCommander 2
army
unit		NE Bodyguard				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Mailed Knights				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Mailed Knights				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Sergeant Spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Sergeant Spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Sergeant Spearmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Peasant Crossbowmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit		Peasant Crossbowmen				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

[Gigantus]

I'll do those script spawns once more and see what happens. Should be simple, I still got those banner graphics

In descr_regions are you referring to the faction entry? That would be the 'loyalty' entry, the faction a region would revolt to unless it's the previous owner's faction. I'll check if that works with script spawns. If memory serves it works that way with descr_rebel_faction based spawns.

[Miguel_80]

It should be as you mention, but doesn't work the sub-factions by script. Not even allows to appear captains of Slave faction.

[Gigantus]

I used faithful Bare Geomod and took the Vilnius Region, set the owner to Russia and the descr_region entry set to Russia. The region to the right got owned by Russai as well but I changed the descr_regions entry to Moors. I then spawned 4 slave armies into each region, one without sub faction the others with sub factions of various cultures. I used numbering (0-7) for the symbols.

;
; Campaign script
;
script

    restrict_strat_radar false

    monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal

        ; Vilnius - owner Russia, loyal Russia

        spawn_army
            faction slave
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 196, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction england
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 198, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction papal_states
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 200, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction aztecs
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 202, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end

        ; Smolensk - owner Russia, loyal Moors

        spawn_army
            faction slave
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 206, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction england
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 208, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction papal_states
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 210, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end
        spawn_army
            faction slave, sub_faction aztecs
            character    random_name, named character, age 38, x 212, y 162
            unit    Billmen        exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
        end

        terminate_monitor
    end_monitor

    ; keep script unfinished until last monitor termination
    wait_monitors

end_script

And here is the result (one army on the left is hiding in the forest). The army to the right of Smolensk is a descr_strat placement with the aztecs sub faction. It would appear that I indeed mixed up the script display with the one from descr_strat. The symbol used for script spawned slave armies is taken from the descr_regions 'loyal' entry only and the sub faction entry is not read (has no effect).

[Miguel_80]

You can make to appear in a region and then use the "reposition_character" command. I guess that it will respect the flag.

[Gigantus]

That will work - there is no reason why the symbol would change once it has been applied. Within the first rounds of the game you could actually use a unit from descr_strat in that way (age progression dependent), that would also give you the faction's strat model. Simply position it in a dense forest somewhere and give it a label (for easy scripting).

I completely forgot: in EBII we use level strat models for the slaves to simulate a culture\geographical based model: simply give the general the required level trait so that he has the model to go with the symbol, culture wise.

[Miguel_80]

Yes, good idea. This would avoid the same model of general. And add the battle model also

[Withwnar]

From a recent thread...

There does seem to be a workaround for scripted slave spawns...

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...1#post14203640

About halfway down that post. It's referring to this technique: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...oiding-labels)

Spawn the army into a 'spawnpool' faction but don't do the give_everything_to_faction step. Because the spawnpool faction has no settlements (and is not horde) spawnpool dies and the army will go rebel and, apparently, receive the name etc. appropriate for the region in which they are standing. I can't remember if a "Faction Destroyed ... spawnpool" message happens at that point ... hope not.

The units you wish to be using might need to be in both faction rosters: spawnpool and slave.

By "name" I mean the rebel army 'subfaction'/culture name, e.g. "(English Rebels)" in the army's tooltip, not the general's name.

I don't know about accent though ... didn't test that. A named character would keep the accent of the spawnpool faction, I expect.

EDIT:

I can't remember if a "Faction Destroyed ... spawnpool" message happens at that point ... hope not.

It does. Blast. Well then that's no good unless some workaround for it can be found.

[Withwnar]

(continuing from previous post...)

This works: give_everything_to_faction [spawnpool faction] slave false

They still get the slave banner appropriate for the region in which they became rebel AND they still get the appropriate rebel-type description for the region (e.g. "English Rebels"). The latter doesn't happen for directly-spawned rebels.

However, the accent is still that of the spawnpool faction, as is the strat model. For generals (captains) these can be fixed by killing the commander via his spawn label. For named characters you could give him a Level-effect trait to give him a different model (from the slave's model pool) but I don't see how the accent could be changed.

Mind you, I don't think the strat models and accents are working for direct-spawn characters either. When I do it in Egypt he has a very european armour model and a german?/russion? accent. Models were mentioned in previous posts but a Level trait can't fix that for generals (captains).

Within the first rounds of the game you could actually use a unit from descr_strat in that way (age progression dependent), that would also give you the faction's strat model. Simply position it in a dense forest somewhere and give it a label (for easy scripting).

You could also send him off map. Maybe ... not sure if slaves can be.

[Miguel_80]

Models were mentioned in previous posts but a Level trait can't fix that for generals (captains).

It was basically not always will appear the generals (named_character) with European appearance

[Squid]

Just a quick clarification, those army spawn are all slave army spawns, so what about non-slave army spawns that have subfaction attached to them?

[Miguel_80]

The "slave" spawn army that appears by "campaign_script" don't have subfaction. Are you referring to this?

[Squid]

I'm asking does the subfaction tag work for non-slave spawned armies in the campaign script. In other words, is the slave faction the exception where subfaction tag doesn't work, or does the subfaction tag just not work in general in campaign scripts. I'm asking so I know what to update my script editor's validation to work with.