So there are campanian hoplites, nice. What about campanian cavalry?

**Matmannen** · February 07, 2016, 08:23 AM

Recently started a roman camaign, and I was happily suprised by the colorful selection of Italien troops that can be hired and recruited. For example, I am going to try and move a Taurisci Axeman to my eastern and northern borders. I also was happy to see that the Campainian hoplite not only looks cool, but is also a weaker but alot cheaper version of the traditional Triarii for your roman armies, they will definantly find a place. As I looked at the troopes I felt something was missing; campanian cavalry. So I went to the scriptorium jus to confirm, and what I thought a possibility was reealized as truth, there is no campanian cavalry unit in the mod.

So I would just like to ask if there are any possiblity for such a unit to be added, and also the reason behind their absence.

Anyhow, which the enitre DeI team the best...

**Ritter-Floh** · February 07, 2016, 11:16 AM

i always thought there is a campanian cav unit in DeI

at least there must be entries for them, maybe jsut a bug?

**Augustusng** · February 07, 2016, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ritter-Floh

i always thought there is a campanian cav unit in DeI

at least there must be entries for them, maybe jsut a bug?

There's a vanilla Campanian cavalry unit, but it's not included in DeI.

**TFCAliarcy** · February 07, 2016, 12:30 PM

I started playing in 1.05, I have not seen them in this mod. They do have historical backing by Livy as having the best cavalrymen in all of Italy.

**godwrote** · February 07, 2016, 01:46 PM

Campanian Cav only in Hanibal at the Gates

**Dresden** · February 07, 2016, 01:53 PM

The Equites Extraordinarii sort of make up the idea of this. But, I can look into adding them as an AOR unit.

**TFCAliarcy** · February 07, 2016, 03:42 PM

Thinking about it it would probably be nice if mini campaigns had their own special AoR units unique to that Campagin, especially in HatG which has the most diversity having Roman, Italian, Ligurian, Carthaginian, Numidian, South Iberian, North Iberian, Gallic, and Thureos Greeks.

**TheRazaman** · February 07, 2016, 04:33 PM

Is it possible to tie unit recruitment to game year? I.e. Campanian cavalry and hoplites can be available until ~210 BC; after which point they're removed from the recruitment pool and units in armies lose the ability to replenish. I'm not sure if the AI could handle this, but would be a cool feature.

**Dresden** · February 07, 2016, 07:21 PM

Yes, we could make them reform units to sort of accomplish that.

**Matmannen** · February 08, 2016, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by Dresden

Yes, we could make them reform units to sort of accomplish that.

Thx for looking into it. Also I think it would be better if they were mercs or AOR becasue that allows other non roman factions to access them...

**Dresden** · February 08, 2016, 01:55 PM

Yeah they would be an AOR unit for sure.

**Ivan_Moscavich** · February 11, 2016, 10:10 AM

Wait, we can tie aor troops to reforms?

**Augustusng** · February 11, 2016, 11:06 AM

Yeah, and some AOR units already are tied to reforms, like some thureos and thorax units.

**TheRazaman** · February 11, 2016, 01:08 PM

Is it possible (and practical) to implement a system whereby troops no longer replenish after a reform?

Example: Rome can recruit Accensi, then the Polybian reforms hit and they are no longer in the recruitment pool. However, any army with those units keeps them and replenishment of that unit continues as normal, so they can remain through end game if the player wishes. Is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps by permanently associating the no replenishment modifier usually seen in winter to those units?

Alternatively maybe this can/will be addressed by Litharion and Magnar's population system; give Rome five pop tiers for the Camillan era, then remove the poorest (Roarii, Accensi) upon Polybian reforms?