AI always recruiting same units

**Filip_bre** · November 28, 2006, 10:43 AM

i would like to know if it s going to be changable, the fact that the Ai is always having the same units, ex turks are archers, egypt are horsemen, dans areonly two/three diff units ! Its a shame, coz there are so many other nice units

**Turbo** · November 28, 2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Filip_bre

i would like to know if it s going to be changable, the fact that the Ai is always having the same units, ex turks are archers, egypt are horsemen, dans areonly two/three diff units ! Its a shame, coz there are so many other nice units

The AI doesn't upgrade buildings as quick as the human so it keeps cranking out the same units. Even when it has the option of diversifying its build, it will still crank out the unit it thinks most beneficial over and over again.

**ProudNerd** · November 28, 2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Turbo

The AI doesn't upgrade buildings as quick as the human so it keeps cranking out the same units. Even when it has the option of diversifying its build, it will still crank out the unit it thinks most beneficial over and over again.

just like a human would. If its working and its effective use it!

**Turbo** · November 28, 2006, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ProudNerd

just like a human would. If its working and its effective use it!

The problem is that the AI doesn't seem to look at effectiveness. A full army of crossbowmen without any cavalry or heavy infantry is pretty damn easy to kill.

For some reason the AI no longer diversifies its build although it still likes to produce agents, particularly zillions of merchants.

**ProudNerd** · November 28, 2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Turbo

The problem is that the AI doesn't seem to look at effectiveness. A full army of crossbowmen without any cavalry or heavy infantry is pretty damn easy to kill.

For some reason the AI no longer diversifies its build although it still likes to produce agents, particularly zillions of merchants.

oh ok. Well at least it uses assassins this time around I cant remember it ever happening in rtw.

**k_161** · November 28, 2006, 11:41 AM

That's one of my main problem with the campaign AI only useing one type of units like a full stack of Genoese crossbowmen or a full stack of catapults.

**KIllerGecko** · November 28, 2006, 12:54 PM

Actually depending on how well built up the AI faciton is, itl change what its building. If you consistantly annihilate their army, then yes they may for some reason or another, mass a few unit types. If you notice tho, the AI likes to change its army setup to something that can counter yours.
As an example as byzantine i was rolling around w/ a cavalry only army (it was my western defence army) and hungary decided it would be fun to attack me, i completely wipe out his force and i decided it wasnt worth chasing him because he had another full stack nearby. Any ways, long story short, he started pumping out Archers and Spearmen to counter my horsearchers and heavy cavalry. It was good but, not enough since it was all low teired units.

**billydilly** · November 28, 2006, 02:01 PM

It is rather annoying facing the Italian factions with full stacks of Pavaise Crossbowmen and Catapults.

**PooFoo** · November 28, 2006, 02:42 PM

In my campaigns I'm always fighting tons of handgunners and crossbowmen of some type. The italian factions use a lot of pavise crossbowmen. As far as melee infantry goes it doesn't usually go above the feudal knight level.

**Filip_bre** · November 29, 2006, 11:19 AM

and if we change the state of strategy of a faction in desc strat .. is it goin to push the Ai to make different type of units, like more combinasions if the strategy set to invasion Ai kind .. u know mean?

**Anarion** · November 29, 2006, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Filip_bre

and if we change the state of strategy of a faction in desc strat .. is it goin to push the Ai to make different type of units, like more combinasions if the strategy set to invasion Ai kind .. u know mean?

Yes, it helps. Try something like "trader stalin" for Milan.

**Bizzzle** · November 29, 2006, 12:34 PM

I have noticed, as far as army composition goes Spain by far makes the best AI stacks they are verry good about upgrading units and rolling with well made armys.

Last time I fought spain on my byzantine campaing they had armys comprising of 4-5 units of handgunners/crossbowmen 6 units of heavy infantry 2-3 units of halbrediers or pikes 2-3 catapults or trebs and 3 units of heavy calvary.

So Spain atleast has there **** together from what ive noticed.

**Wurfspiess** · November 29, 2006, 12:38 PM

Its mostly the Italian Factions who make strange Armies
Egypt and the Byzantines seem to have troubles too (on the other side i saw very good Byzantine armies)
/shrugs