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    the ragusian cakoni have a clothes color not realistic the blue and yellow are horrible,this units need change the clothes color to a realistic color.

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    Actualy i did watched videos, i guess i watched every single video of this mod. Im not refering to textures.

    What i want to say, compare shield variations of some french units with vlastela for example. There are much less shield 'variation' (collors, symbols...etc) on vlastela.. as for other serbian units

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    Download??

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    The mod wont be out for a while brotendo.

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    http://i.imgur.com/ZF2VxmK.jpg

    Being colorblind, I'm not going say whether or not the colors on those men are correct or not. However, azurite (blue) and opriment (orange-yellow) were fairly common colors in the middle ages. If the blue is more like marine blue, then it's a status symbol (Lapis Lazuli, imported from Afghanistan) and more rare. The walls of inside the vatican are painted with marine blue if I remember correct.

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Following the time period of all factions currently shouldn't "Grand Principality of Serbia" be the "Serbian Kingdom" with capital city of Skopje(Scopie)?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdo...bia_(medieval)

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    Default Re: Medieval Kingdoms Total War: Grand Principality of Serbia

    Serbia was a Grand Principality up until 1217, which means in 1212, the mod's starting date, they are not called a Kingdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ltd. View Post
    Serbia was a Grand Principality up until 1217, which means in 1212, the mod's starting date, they are not called a Kingdom.
    Alright but the historical records show that the city of Scopie was under Serbian rule from 1189 and got into Bulgarian rule at 1231.So if the starting period is 1212 AD that means the city is under Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul007 View Post
    Alright but the historical records show that the city of Scopie was under Serbian rule from 1189 and got into Bulgarian rule at 1231.So if the starting period is 1212 AD that means the city is under Serbs.
    Kaloyan of Bulgaria conquered the city and the area in 1203.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazgul007 View Post
    Alright but the historical records show that the city of Scopie was under Serbian rule from 1189 and got into Bulgarian rule at 1231.So if the starting period is 1212 AD that means the city is under Serbs.
    In the mod the mod team barely gave a second region to Serbia due to speculation who controlled Nish/Bdin due to the rebelion of Bulgarian nobles against the Bulgarian tzar with speculation the serbs helped the rebels.1 source says the events were in 1211, another 1213.Belgrade is also linked to the problem because Hungary helped crush the rebels and was rewarded with Belgrade. If its 1213 Bulgaria have to get 2 more regions. The mod team went with the 1211 sources. Skopie was until the late 1270s in Bulgarian hands.

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    No. In 1212 Skopje was at hand of Bulgarian noblemen, Strez, who ruled over Vardar Macedonia as independent ruler (He led serbian army and conquered the city in 1209 from Bulgarians while he was Serbian vassal).
    Capital of Serbia in 1212 was Ras.
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    Sins 1211 Strez was an sebastokrator to the Bulgarian emperor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion8000 View Post
    Sins 1211 Strez was an sebastokrator to the Bulgarian emperor.
    Yes, but from 1208 to 1211 he served as a vassal to Serbian king.
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    Will there be changes to the Serbian roster like the changes made to the Bulgarian one or is this the end product??

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    Quote Originally Posted by keksimir View Post
    Will there be changes to the Serbian roster like the changes made to the Bulgarian one or is this the end product??
    I think the current serbian roster is going to stay as it is meaning that more or less they do look like I want them to look. Small cosmetic changes are always possible , but don't think of a major overhaul.
    Of course further units , also for Serbia, will make it into most rosters in the final version , but until then a basic working and hopefully historically accurate roster should be created for all playable factions.

    Also, additional units might come in form of DLCs

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    Quote Originally Posted by keksimir View Post
    Will there be changes to the Serbian roster like the changes made to the Bulgarian one or is this the end product??
    There are probably going to be 2 more cav units (light cav for early and Hussars for late). At least that was idea when i spoke to Ltd. I had idea of adding some foot knights or something simmilar with parts of full plate armor for late heavy infantry. Also it would be good to have some upgrade in late period for serbian spearmen and archers. And that would complete entire Serbian roster ( this is my opinion. ). But let modders decide
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    I'm not speaking on behalf of the team, I'm not a member of it, but from all likelihood, all factions will have early, high and later period. From my understanding, they seek to give each faction a basic roster before they go into great detail. Suggestions supplied with primary sources or dissertations are always welcomed, but I doubt any change will happen right away though. On the other hand, I'm not a member and they tend to surprise you when you least expect it (watch your back ).

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    Thorolf was thus armed. Then Thorolf became so furious that he cast his shield on his back, and, grasping his halberd with both hands, bounded forward dealing cut and thrust on either side. Men sprang away from him both ways, but he slew many. Thus he cleared the way forward to earl Hring's standard, and then nothing could stop him. He slew the man who bore the earl's standard, and cut down the standard-pole. After that he lunged with his halberd at the earl's breast, driving it right through mail and body, so that it came out at the shoulders; and he lifted him up on the halberd over his head, and planted the butt-end in the ground. There on the weapon the earl breathed out his life in sight of all, both friends and foes. [...] 53, Egil's Saga
    I must tell you here of some amusing tricks the Comte d'Eu played on us. I had made a sort of house for myself in which my knights and I used to eat, sitting so as to get the light from the door, which, as it happened, faced the Comte d'Eu's quarters. The count, who was a very ingenious fellow, had rigged up a miniature ballistic machine with which he could throw stones into my tent. He would watch us as we were having our meal, adjust his machine to suit the length of our table, and then let fly at us, breaking our pots and glasses.
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    Our roster seems a bit small compared to other nations, maybe more militia units? Cavalry was a very big part of medieval Serbia so a bit more variations there would be great...all in all its for them to decide like you said.
    I am just wondering if this is the final product and i got my answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by keksimir View Post
    Our roster seems a bit small compared to other nations, maybe more militia units? Cavalry was a very big part of medieval Serbia so a bit more variations there would be great...all in all its for them to decide like you said.
    I am just wondering if this is the final product and i got my answer
    Well, we are a small nation
    Looks like you haven't checked on Vlastela. That cav units is so powerful
    I think this is not final
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    No no, not what i mean. I see powerful units here, thats not the problem. I am just wondering will there be more low armor units and militia units.
    The roster looks awesome, just wondering about some "weak cannon fodder" units

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